Who decides what to censor and delete??!

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dappermen

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He knew Em will go after him??!! Hence crying now

he may wanna prep his letter if he cannot take it!!!!
a gd lesson to learn from the episode of Elon must v twitter!


U dont even need one to share such news , everyone is talking abt elon must v twitter for weeks!

all those who seemingly love remove threads or censor post for no good reasons shd learn from the episode of twitter v Elon musk!!!
If i have an account, i got the very right to post what i wanna, so long i dont troll anyone or hurt anyone, neither did i spam anything illegal too! What is so wrong w me keep posting on a subject i love?!!
This is my account and this is free for all to post& it wont take up space! Not that i attached big files, even if i have taken up space? All account holders should be forewarned that eg u have only 10gb space or….



How do we deal w a co./ or a person who keep targetting on a same person by blocking/deleting or close his thread?

I can list them down here if i m allowed to…




https://www.hotnewhiphop.com/elon-m...ikR70v55Je_BGcFY6LXU_1QLyhNY4fzjXfS3v8aZZiStU
 
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He knew Em will go after him??!! Hence crying now

he may wanna prep his letter if he cannot take it!!!!
a gd lesson to learn from the episode of Elon must v twitter!


U dont even need one to share such news , everyone is talking abt elon must v twitter for weeks!

all those who seemingly love remove threads or censor post for no good reasons shd learn from the episode of twitter v Elon musk!!!
If i have an account, i got the very right to post what i wanna, so long i dont troll anyone or hurt anyone, neither did i spam anything illegal too! What is so wrong w me keep posting on a subject i love?!!
This is my account and this is free for all to post& it wont take up space! Not that i attached big files, even if i have taken up space? All account holders should be forewarned that eg u have only 10gb space or….



How do we deal w a co./ or a person who keep targetting on a same person by blocking/deleting or close his thread?

I can list them down here if i m allowed to…




https://www.hotnewhiphop.com/elon-m...ikR70v55Je_BGcFY6LXU_1QLyhNY4fzjXfS3v8aZZiStU

Not sure what you talking about

Most of our mods are fair and reasonable

Infractions are issued only when the poster deserve it according to the judgement of the mod who issued it
 
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if u r ref to this case, it is of cos a must to block any one who dare to discriminate own locals in terms of work/job opportunities
 

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how do we ensure that Mods wil not lock our thread for no major issues?

Pls list which threads has been closed?

your only post i can see deleted was this post in syfe thread
Deleted by dappermen Today at 7:16 AM
 

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it is not just about deletion

it is about closure for NO substantial reasons and in the first place should clearly state why must it be closed (even before setting up)

why is this comparison closed? just to quote 1 eg to begin with:
even though there are lesser users using Stashaway now, we need to compare Endowus with Syfe
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...shaway-vs-syfe.6092311/page-51#post-138735160
is this also illegal?
Why is it that we cannot share passionately on the topics that we like?
https://markets.ft.com/data/funds/tearsheet/historical?s=LU0943347566:SGDhttps://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/threads/allianz-income-and-growth-fund-anyone.6640264/if anyone who doesnt believe in it, doeesnt need to click on it at all
every pot has its own lid
 

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Mods and admin have the right to censor.

The sooner you learn that you deserve to get infracted, the better your perspective in life.

I was once angsty like you, then I did some reflection and learned that mods have the right to censor; and never looked back since.

I am now a changed forum user.
 

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it is not just about deletion

it is about closure for NO substantial reasons and in the first place should clearly state why must it be closed (even before setting up)

why is this comparison closed? just to quote 1 eg to begin with:
even though there are lesser users using Stashaway now, we need to compare Endowus with Syfe
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...shaway-vs-syfe.6092311/page-51#post-138735160
is this also illegal?
Why is it that we cannot share passionately on the topics that we like?
https://markets.ft.com/data/funds/tearsheet/historical?s=LU0943347566:SGDhttps://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/threads/allianz-income-and-growth-fund-anyone.6640264/if anyone who doesnt believe in it, doeesnt need to click on it at all
every pot has its own lid

The way I see you are trying to peddle referral bonuses ?
 

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For what??? The other syfe trade / syfe custom/ Endowus/ robo thread/ syfe wealth also have my postings too, why arent they closed????
less peddling?

What kind of assumptions and accusations are that???
All postings that disallow ref codes will be titled just like this:
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...ring-request-of-codes-part-5.6094331/page-271Excuse me i dont hold any stashaway now what s there to peddle?!!!

U censor based on imagination?
Why not go mediacorp and help them since having fertile illusion???

And r u the mod????
 

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TS, maybe you should learn to reflect on yourself first.

Just accept whatever infractions you get, learn to post only the correct things from now on.

You will find EDMW a happier place once you gain enlightenment.
I think this year Edmwer of the Year can be @tokiya. Converted many people with his wisdom
 

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This is not for non-moderators and online warriors to air and to revenge (cos all gotten infractions and now trying to lecture?!)
When is the title of this thread entitled “infractions”??!

pls stick to the topic, instead of ans to the qn…. U guys come beat around the bush to spam and troll!
Can a moderator ans me using pm instead?
(After asking me to list down: endedup i get bombarded by the nosey ones)

btw, i did send qns to a moderator and he is so rude; didnt even bother to reply for weeks and i doubt he will!
He doesnt have the ans to justify!
 

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We care very much about the quality of the posts in Money Mind and it is thanks to our forum users reporting posts that help us keep up the quality of the forum.

Now there are two main types of reports that we deal with. Posts that clearly break the rules are typically dealt with by infracting and deleting. And then there are low quality posts that are more marginal and may not necessarily break the rules, but causes the quality of the forum to deteriorate. Such reports are typically rejected, but they are still very useful nonetheless as they help us keep an eye on what is going on. Most of the time low quality posts either get drowned out by constructive posts, or the thread simply gets buried and drop out of the first page as interest in the thread fizzles out. In a way, the forum moderates itself even without our intervention.

This does not always work, of course, and sometimes we do have to step in when things get out of hand. Often the best way to deal with it is to simply close the thread. Now when a thread is being closed, it does not mean that the topic being discussed is forbidden, therefore no "censorship" has taken place.

Let's come to the first thread that was closed. There are over a dozen threads on roboadvisor platforms in the forum. There is obviously a lot of redundancy between the many threads, there are threads for each platform, different threads for comparing various combination of the platforms, different threads for different products from each platform. Normally this is not a problem, most of these threads get buried and we may at most see 2 or 3 roboadvisor threads in the first page, so there's no real need to do anything. A couple of months ago though, the front page of Money Mind started being more than half filled with roboadvisor threads, mostly due to the same forum poster bumping multiple roboadvisor threads with posts of dubious quality. Something needed to be done about that to clean up the forum front page, and a couple of threads were selected to be closed, and these solved the issue quickly.

The second thread was quite a bit more serious. In fact, the reason for the closure was explained to you already. You were promoting a particular unit trust that you are very enthusiastic about, using sensationalist headline and misleading information by comparing the product against other products with lower risk and volatility profiles. You were given a chance to fix the issues with the thread but you refused to do so, therefore the thread was closed. The thread was later deleted because you persisted in making multiple posts in other threads linking to the closed thread.

You need to take the advise others have given in this thread, take a deep breath, take a step back and take a break. Not everything is about you. Your posts have been by far received the most reports out of anyone else in the Money Mind forum, yet we have been very lenient towards you with regards to infractions. Look up NPD and see if it is something you can fix.
 

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TS, maybe you should learn to reflect on yourself first.

Just accept whatever infractions you get, learn to post only the correct things from now on.

You will find EDMW a happier place once you gain enlightenment.
He was referring threads in Money Mind, which has a much stricter moderating standards, not EDMW.

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Look up NPD and see if it is something you can fix.
What is npd?


if a heading/title is not suitable
Why cant we change it?!!
The bonds have alwys been of lower risk nature
What sort of comparison can we make???
sorry the mod did not offer any constructive feedback at all beside asking me to delete and to delete!
There are feedbacks written by other membrs too, what is so sensationalistic abt it??

it is sensational in your eyes only or to a complainant!
And did more forummers bought more of that fund ? Did anything happend after the purchase??
U r making only your own judgement based on personal bias
“using sensationalist headline and misleading information by comparing the product against other products with lower risk and volatility”
The threads that are closed or being unfairly treated are more than the above listed, there are members who incessantly spamming and trolling me (yes they could be serious on a topic but there is no need to make false accusations on me or tagging me) i dont see u deleting them (in non—$ mind forum )too!
If titles or headings are not appropriate, u could have shorten it eg just the fund name or … i dont even how less sensationlistic when u cannot even provide concrete data what damages it has done! What is so wrong w being passionate? I didnt force anyone to buy anything, neither did i pm anyone to peddle sales! Being passionate has nothing of causing sensation! I dont even tag or keep trolling the same person to sell “sensational” funds! I wish i could be working for the fund co. Too!
Sometimes pp are just passionate abt sharing what they knw or learn abt a certain topic/theme
N it is just being passionate
Eg one could be sharing only one sharing all topics abt (from 2022 onwds and i trust way more than 1 thread) abt this stk , i dont see what is wrong w it…. He could have done links to direct pp to discuss the right content at the right thread, again i seee no wrong in makin directions or to divert pp, this is to ensure the existing thread get to discuss content relevant to their theme….if not mbrs ought to be re-directed to the right place
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/threads/cromwell-european-reit-official-sgx-cnnu.5678441/page-13
making multiple posts in other threads linking to the closed thread.
Sorry to use just 1 case for eg
(There r plenty i believe)
Eg of many trollers here but they conte to troll: whether how one ans qn is crucial to this thread? There is no freedom of speech??!
While the title seemed abit over, i can understand that ts is just feeling frustrated, moomoo might nt b cheap in terms of forex, it is definitely not insanely unaffordable! Anyway TS is just being expressive!
The fault and failure of mods in moneymind is they dont spend qlty efforts in moderating such serious issue:
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/threads/moomoo-fx-fees-are-insane.6739060/page-2#post-141305856
Some trollers attempted to do personal attack , how has one net worth mentioned elsewhere got to this w this thread on moo?
Whether a person has enugh funds to transf to moo be it $2 or 20k has nothing to do w a moomoo thread (and i suggested too , i have alwys suggested to combine similar threads / merge : not delete , more than once!, this ought to b combined into another moo thread)… if a person suspected or need to qn another personal action, he shd take it up privately! I m shocked poor ts endedup has to explain on his networth! What has that got to do w forex fees of brokers???
And there are many comments seemed to be insinuating on a particular mbr, cant u read them?
(If i have time to gauge what is sensational, they shd spend more time on this instead!)

If a particular posting /reply is rude that can be deleted, it doesnt warrant the whole thread to be totally removed! I m sorry i cannot see the logic of a moderator there are no proper protocols in how u do your work professnalluly


If u tell me there are illegal items eg nude pics, evidence of money laundering or pp get cheated of an illegal transactions that i could understand, i dont see them at all….

it is all based on 1’s wrong judgement, sorry to say

N i didnt wish to raise this here too, i attempted to pm instead, but no1 ever reply! I attempted to ask for a deletion of a strange posting in a non-moneymind forum again no1 responded too
Now it appeared that i m trying to make the whole world as my public enemies (which is not evn my intention)




Tks ottoke! I felt she is very strict too on minute staff but at least she is fairer…… she tells u straight what is wrong (or he sorry, i really dont knw) & how to go abt right the wrong!
He was referring threads in Money Mind, which has a much stricter moderating standards, not EDMW.

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If one noticed that a same membr has been making similar mistake then write to him and offer him concrete help, so that your life will have lesser reports! By closing or by choosing to handle it using your own decision, is not professnl and not gonna lessen workload!
Something must be terribly gone wrong if a same person must have been recvg so many reports (are the reports from the same grp of his trollers u knw that jolly well), guide him for a first 3 incidents of entirely diff nature, thereafter if he refuse to heed? Then delete or do whatever u r supposed to do professnlly!
Warned him that u r guiding him just for first 3 cases as it seemed like he may not get the “msg” as so called many reports surfaced!
Yes u can choose not to listen….. this is your call but these are my genuine suggestions for pp who are passionate yet they are not sure how not to step on the landmines of a stricter money-mind thread….

Another concrete solution: is to type out clearer guidance (copy him a not-to-do list)
Eg dont peddle sales (i trust i didnt)
I dont even knw what is so wrong w what i have done!
If a person is an empty vessel, no matter how much noise he made, or how much links he try to divert to a page, no1 will care!

just like i will “ignore” that same grp of trollers (who liked one another’s postings) but i think they keep tagging me, i cannot read other innocent mbrs reply to their tagging without un-clicking “ignore”
Patience is what u need, esp u harped on take a seat back, breathe! U r one who do not carry out what u preached, it is very sad
 
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& there is nothing wrong w appearing everywhere on topics u felt passionate abt, passion doesnt equate spammings

it is only wrong when the same grp* of trollers suddenly appeared in an active thread out of nowhere to “deliver” their point! U know that is spamming or trolling instantly as all along they do not even contribute to that active thread at all since day1

this is how one differentiates whether is that spamming and troll!

by posting something on an old thread is not a troll, it is more of the old thread has value for posting now! (If not it alrdy been deleted or removed)

(i just made a report on what is called having revenge or troll so as not to embarrass the person here)
If a mod took concrete step in preventing hatred and trolls, a mbr like me wont feel so frustrated that lead me to spend time typing the efforts or to take things at own hands (ended up all parties making more mistakes)

knowing that a particular mbr has more reports on, then the mod shd quickly offer him much more guidance in order to settle him down quickly

leading him the way on what is right and wht is not
Of cos the free guidance is ltd for eg only at a timeframe, thereafter he will b treated squarely like the rest!

pls learn to make the forum a place w much more love and not hatred! Being fair for all doesnt mean cold and heartless

* u can see clearly hw the same grp will jest on the targeted person and liked the posts among their fav grp mbrs when posting targeted at the same person
I m sorry to say this is online bullying w an evil intention!
This is illegal and immoral!
And worst, they accuse a person too (for hiding) of cos the person has to hide(cos who wanna face those bullies squarely?!!)


instead of first rid the illegalities, mod waste time by removing every sttms of an ignorant who may not have make high standards of financial capability!
One may be ignorant that doesnt mean he has done wrong!
 
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OMG. As a senior member, let me chip in here.

1) Be short and concise in your feedback.
2) Be polite. Don't be rude.
3) Cut your emotions. Take a breather.
4) Respect the Mods and house rules.

Have a good day. :cool:
 
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