Wi-Fi 6E routers

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Given shipping is handled by Amazon and final price is inclusive of the import taxes, what will be your concern about the custom pass thru?
The wifi 6e bandwidth technology as I have not seems any official router product availability in SG.
 

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With regard to the request to release more licence-exempt spectrum in the 6GHz band (refer to Para 20), IMDA recognises that developments are nascent in this band and will continue to monitor the international trends and technology developments in the band before opening up for future applications. IMDA also notes that there may be demands for opening up the 6GHz as licensed band for mobile services.

So far there has been no update from IMDA to opening up the 6 GHz spectrum outside of this paragraph. My only worry is they can see a big paycheck if they open the band for licensed use rather than unlicensed. I hope I'm wrong and they release the full 1 GHz worth of spectrum in the 6 GHz band but I think it's unlikely.
 

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Actually wifi 6 is good enough for most users. Do not need so much bandwidth for the phone.
What has this got to do with bandwidth for phones? Some mentioned this or that phone had Wi-Fi 6E but what we are talking about is the spectrum for any device.
 

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I tend to think they will eventually approve Wifi 6E -- or part of the 6GHz spectrum for Wifi usage (WiFi 6E and WiFi 7). As for the time, no idea.
So if I have to get new router to replace the broken one, should I get 6e router and utilize the performance after IMDA approves it at some point of time, or I should get 6 router instead (much cheaper) considering such approval is almost hopeless?
 

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So if I have to get new router to replace the broken one, should I get 6e router and utilize the performance after IMDA approves it at some point of time, or I should get 6 router instead (much cheaper) considering such approval is almost hopeless?

Just get the WiFi 6 router.
 

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A good WIFI6 router can achieve 9xx odd mbps for download at near range. Think it is more than enough for most users. This is never ending, WIFI7 already another coming standard. Think WIFI6 enough for now until 2Gbps or faster fibre plan gets cheaper and then see what WIFIX router is available at reasonable price and get it then. For me, good coverage now more important than outright speed.
 

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A good WIFI6 router can achieve 9xx odd mbps for download at near range. Think it is more than enough for most users. This is never ending, WIFI7 already another coming standard. Think WIFI6 enough for now until 2Gbps or faster fibre plan gets cheaper and then see what WIFIX router is available at reasonable price and get it then. For me, good coverage now more important than outright speed.
Good coverage on the 5Ghz band where the higher speeds are can never be provided by a single router. ;) The old practise of a single router in the house dates back to 2.4Ghz days, or 802.11n (ie, 300Mbps on 2T2R/40Mhz band). Of course this does not apply for people who live in Studio apartments or 2 room flats. For most of us who live in bigger places, even a 4 room flat requires at least a 2-node system imo, if not 3 nodes for optimal coverage if they desire the absolute best performance even with closed doors.

Going back to secondary school physics, lower frequency = lower speeds = higher penetrative power. That's why the 2.4Ghz frequency worked better to cover a larger area. The main caveat is that your neighbour's wifi signals also interfere with your own and vice-versa. Add the wireless doorbells, microwaves, remote controls, wireless keyboard+mouse, bluetooth and other devices all operating on the same 2.4Ghz spectrum, and it's very crowded and full of collision.

We want the high speeds, but that also means 5Ghz has poorer penetrative power. It was decent in the past, but with everyone moving to 5Ghz bands, it is also very crowded.

Hence, in urban-dense Singapore, the 6Ghz band is more important than we realise. It means less interference from your neighbour's wifi (since it has poorer penetrative power) and that means less collision and queueing (or I will colloqually use "CSMA/CA" here even though the term CD strictly refers to wired cable collision detection/avoidance mechanisms), translating to improved network performance. The main caveat? That we will need more nodes to cover an apartment. Here you will see the lie that is mesh systems, since the mesh backbone will likely fall to the 5Ghz band (or even the 2.4Ghz band, as they have better penetration through walls) and that actually means a slow network even though the computer reports it is connected to the AP on Wifi 6E/7. Actual speeds will be the slowest, which means your backbone speed will severely limit overall network performance as long as we are on wireless mesh. Those who invested in wired networks will have much better network performance overall.

Then there's also the wrong practise of boosting wifi power, thinking that that improves range, which is untrue when all things are considered. Remember wireless communication is 2-way. Your router may reach your device, but your battery-powered device may not have enough power to transmit back to the router, or it may need to draw more power to boost the signal to successfully retransmit back. Both are not good things. The best practise is to keep the power output just high enough for your home, and if you have multiple nodes, high enough to cover the zones they are meant to cover, so that handover to another AP can be negotiated properly. This is also good neighbourly practise, because if everyone does it, there will also be less interference from other neighbours and leads to lower "CSMA".

For those of us who might have greater demands on our home network for whatever reasons (eg, working off your NAS for photos/videos editing), Wifi6 is not sufficient.
 
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6E Routers can be purchased overseas and sent to Singapore. You do run the risk that the item is inspected and confiscated as the transmitting device would not yet be on IMDA'S approved devices list.

If you do manage to get it through customs you then run the problem that no 6E ready items (S22 Ultra or 6E ready wireless chips for laptops) are enabled in Singapore. I have a Samsung S21 ultra which was purchased in Australia where 6E is already approved. Today a firmware update came through on the phone which enabled the 6E functionality for a short period before the phone worked out it was not in Australia and the 6E was disabled again. The same goes for intel wireless cards that are 6E ready. They will work on 6E when in countries that have approved 6E but don't currently have it enabled in Singapore. So until IMDA approves 6E in Singapore no 6E ready devices will have the feature enabled so it is a waste purchasing the functionality until IMDA gives it the go ahead.
 
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6E Routers can be purchased overseas and sent to Singapore. You do run the risk that the item is inspected and confiscated as the transmitting device would not yet be on IMDA'S approved devices list.

If you do manage to get it through customs you then run the problem that no 6E ready items (S22 Ultra or 6E ready wireless chips for laptops) are enabled in Singapore. I have a Samsung S21 ultra which was purchased in Australia where 6E is already approved. Today a firmware update came through on the phone which enabled the 6E functionality for a short period before the phone worked out it was not in Australia and the 6E was disabled again. The same goes for intel wireless cards that are 6E ready. They will work on 6E when in countries that have approved 6E but don't currently have it enabled in Singapore. So until IMDA approves 6E in Singapore no 6E ready devices will have the feature enabled so it is a waste purchasing the functionality until IMDA gives it the go ahead.

Makes sense. the manufacturer does not want to get "smacked" by the regulator and risk affecting sales (of other products) in the country.
 

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I cannot think of any use case where wifi6 bandwidth is not enough.
Unless when phones/tablets has become so powerful to edit/render videos.
 

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I cannot think of any use case where wifi6 bandwidth is not enough.
Unless when phones/tablets has become so powerful to edit/render videos.
For phones, tablets? If speed is the issue, probably not - wrong use case here.

For large scale photo and more specifically video editing off network resources, Wifi6 isn't enough,
 
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