Do u all belive in bazi / zi wei dou shu? - Part 13

[Dogz]

禄逢冲破
1. 化祿星和祿存被對宮忌星所沖，另外就是羊陀火鈴空劫六煞星在對宮沖。
2. 化祿星和祿存坐忌或與六煞星同宮，為煞忌所破。

So the 化祿星 and/ or 祿存 must sit inside 命宫 to be counted? But 祿存 is already giap between 羊陀....

And quite frankly, I think it's almost near impossible not to clash based on the 2 scenarios above.

Normally 禄逢冲破 indicates 化禄 clash by 化忌 from opposite palace. Some sect (should be 1 of the flying star) even indicate 禄逢冲破 as 双忌。

禄存 with main star 化忌 in same or opposite palace is call 羊驼夹忌，为恶格, from 古书. If 禄存 alone without main star worse!

Other 煞星，空劫，火铃，羊陀 coming to clash 会带来阻碍，不顺，困扰. Of cus no good, but not as serious as above. Unless they form out other type of 恶格.

You are correct, above u mentioned 羊陀 coming to clash should only for 化禄。

 

[ZhouXingXing]

禄逢冲破
1. 化祿星和祿存被對宮忌星所沖，另外就是羊陀火鈴空劫六煞星在對宮沖。
2. 化祿星和祿存坐忌或與六煞星同宮，為煞忌所破。

So the 化祿星 and/ or 祿存 must sit inside 命宫 to be counted? But 祿存 is already giap between 羊陀....

And quite frankly, I think it's almost near impossible not to clash based on the 2 scenarios above.

i digged out one of my case whose 本命有火貪 but opposite got 地空。 During this 大限, 貪狼化祿 supposed to be a good huat decade for her but due to 禄逢空破， it become 坏格局

 

[BJPK888]

Normally 禄逢冲破 indicates 化禄 clash by 化忌 from opposite palace. Some sect (should be 1 of the flying star) even indicate 禄逢冲破 as 双忌。

禄存 with main star 化忌 in same or opposite palace is call 羊驼夹忌，为恶格, from 古书. If 禄存 alone without main star worse!

Other 煞星，空劫，火铃，羊陀 coming to clash 会带来阻碍，不顺，困扰. Of cus no good, but not as serious as above. Unless they form out other type of 恶格.

You are correct, above u mentioned 羊陀 coming to clash should only for 化禄。

A lot of different versions out there indeed.

For 双忌, does it mean 2 stars within same palace 化忌 OR can be one star have 本命忌 and 流年忌？

 

[BJPK888]

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i digged out one of my case whose 本命有火貪 but opposite got 地空。 During this 大限, 貪狼化祿 supposed to be a good huat decade for her but due to 禄逢空破， it become 坏格局

think I kena 禄逢冲破 next year. good game!

 

[ZhouXingXing]

think I kena 禄逢冲破 next year. good game!

waa then have to take note of that area liao, you will experienced 吉中藏凶 effect..

 

[BJPK888]

waa then have to take note of that area liao, you will experienced 吉中藏凶 effect..

eh, only affect 命宫 right？ or any other line also count

 

[Dogz]

A lot of different versions out there indeed.

For 双忌, does it mean 2 stars within same palace 化忌 OR can be one star have 本命忌 and 流年忌？

Yes, tons of version

A化忌宫冲B宫 = 1忌
A化忌宫冲B化禄宫 = 双忌

 

[Dogz]

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i digged out one of my case whose 本命有火貪 but opposite got 地空。 During this 大限, 貪狼化祿 supposed to be a good huat decade for her but due to 禄逢空破， it become 坏格局

This lady 财官 not bad, 还是会不错, but 感情多困扰。精神也差，福德化生年忌冲财，现在这个大限福德也化忌.

Next decade 第五限 not bad, 三奇嘉会，子田很好，太阴也化禄，可买房地产.

 

[ZhouXingXing]

eh, only affect 命宫 right？ or any other line also count

it includes all the line that are affected.

This lady 财官 not bad, 还是会不错, but 感情多困扰。精神也差，福德化生年忌冲财，现在这个大限福德也化忌.

Next decade 第五限 not bad, 三奇嘉会，子田很好，太阴也化禄，可买房地产.

i think you got it wrong? shld be 第6大限..

 

[ZhouXingXing]

A lot of different versions out there indeed.

For 双忌, does it mean 2 stars within same palace 化忌 OR can be one star have 本命忌 and 流年忌？

the above mentioned is one of the version of 双忌 too

different sch of teaching got too many variations but you to have to test to see which appears to be more accurate since you do not follow any sch in specific

 

[Dogz]

it includes all the line that are affected.


i think you got it wrong? shld be 第6大限..

Haven see 6th, 5th decade also 三奇， 生年科禄夹+权，not easy 1 with the 煞星，but 助星 many many +火贪，还是不错的紫武廉。

Whereas 大田 also 三奇 and is 太阴(田宅主）化禄+禄存，为双禄交流。

 

[billovee]

It is interesting to listen to, and i like to read up about this kind of stuff, but I wouldn't want to dabble in it. From my understanding, Buddha preached against Occultism. Once I pass by an amulet shop, it was closed. But I peek in to look at the diff amulets and statues. After that felt a bit unwell for the rest of the day. Next day ok.

Last time before i 封身， i walk pass or go into the fu lu shou (at bugis) i feel extremely uncomfortable, those amulets shops. Like the energy there very negative，i cannot take it, so i wont stay long.

i really surprising alot people crazy over them.

 

[Tabula Rasa]

Last time before i 封身， i walk pass or go into the fu lu shou (at bugis) i feel extremely uncomfortable, those amulets shops. Like the energy there very negative，i cannot take it, so i wont stay long.

i really surprising alot people crazy over them.

What is 封身?

Yes I had the same feeling. Usually, I am not too sensitive to such stuff, but I think the concentration of energy was too great that even I could feel it.

 

[ZhouXingXing]

Haven see 6th, 5th decade also 三奇， 生年科禄夹+权，not easy 1 with the 煞星，but 助星 many many +火贪，还是不错的紫武廉。

Whereas 大田 also 三奇 and is 太阴(田宅主）化禄+禄存，为双禄交流。

i see.. interesting because 生年科禄夹+权 in my sch doesnt count as 三奇. the 夹 must be same like 双禄夹，双科夹 etc..

the 大田 is the 标准三奇成格

 

[Dogz]

i see.. interesting because 生年科禄夹+权 in my sch doesnt count as 三奇. the 夹 must be same like 双禄夹，双科夹 etc..

the 大田 is the 标准三奇成格

Yes, is not the actual. But it is still 禄权科 supporting the palace, which is also very strong, imagine left and right pillar supporting.

In short, many masters will still call 三奇嘉会 but knowing it is not the actual.

Actually depends on individual who wants to call , a malaysian master call it 同花顺.

 

[BJPK888]

the above mentioned is one of the version of 双忌 too

different sch of teaching got too many variations but you to have to test to see which appears to be more accurate since you do not follow any sch in specific

Some folks believe that 太阴 in 亥宫 ‘化忌不忌’ so the impact of 禄逢冲破 is minimal.

 

[Dogz]

Some folks believe that 太阴 in 亥宫 ‘化忌不忌’ so the impact of 禄逢冲破 is minimal.

太阴在亥宫化忌 is a special case. The 3f4z is really auspicious, especially career palace which also includes 禄存.

化忌 will cause 太阴 to be indecisive and stubborn, troubles with relationship, needs alot of hardwork in order to succeed. Stubborn can also means never give up.

If the birth timing is right, career palace 3f4z meets 文昌，成立“阳梁昌禄” structure，he/she are born to be successful.

 

[ZhouXingXing]

Some folks believe that 太阴 in 亥宫 ‘化忌不忌’ so the impact of 禄逢冲破 is minimal.

actually wont be minimal unless 3f4z 高度吉化.

 

[BJPK888]

actually wont be minimal unless 3f4z 高度吉化.

Even 禄逢冲破 have to look at 3F4Z?

 

[ZhouXingXing]

Even 禄逢冲破 have to look at 3F4Z?

yes have to see also..
if 禄逢冲破, for sure it become 灾宫 but if 够吉化, the pain become 40% compared to without 够吉化 which the pain is about 70% like that..