I don’t think cheap hawker food is sustainable in Singapore

[Pukunara]

Personally I don’t think cheap hawker food is sustainable in Singapore.

We are the only developed country in the world with this low-priced eating option.

People understand that hawkers also need to make a good living. So it’s politically incorrect for them to insist that they keep their profits or wages low.

Ingredients are largely out of Singapore’s control since we import most raw food.

So everyone gripes about rent.

But one thing Singapore definitely does not have enough is space.

At least PSP Hazel Poa was honest enough to suggest that the alternative to bidding is balloting.

Balloting however harms hawkers and consumers.

If I can pay more and charge less to cook char kway teow, why should I be allocated a stall by luck ?

There are no easy answers.

I think in the end , prices have to rise and more people will have to cook at home.

This is what most people in developed countries do.

- From Calvin Cheng Facebook

 

[FinalTidus]

Lolol.

Seetoh makan sutra guy has been saying this for decades! Not years... decades!

 

[Whimsica]

Prices rise and more people cook at home
= less business
= hawkers more bo sim, next gen not interested, quality drop
= even less business
= closed

Isn't this what's happening now?

The key issue to me is that the principles of economics are for some reason not working in Singapore.

HDB prices keep going up and keep avoiding a long due market adjustment.

Transport costs keep going up despite all the innovation (eg EV), hiring from less rich countries and increase in over 3 times the number of phvs + taxis vs the number of taxis at its peak.

Food prices keep going up despite falling demand.

Car prices keep going up despite sluggish demand in other countries and a strong SGD.

It's like groups of people are prodding up prices and deferring the much awaited soft landing.

It will be scary when everything starts crashing at the same time.

Perhaps right after the GE where PAP suffers shocking setbacks.

 

[RyanJ]

Prices rise and more people cook at home
= less business
= hawkers more bo sim, next gen not interested, quality drop
= even less business
= closed

Isn't this what's happening now?

The key issue to me is that the principles of economics are for some reason not working in Singapore.

HDB prices keep going up and keep avoiding a long due market adjustment.

Transport costs keep going up despite all the innovation (eg EV), hiring from less rich countries and increase in over 3 times the number of phvs + taxis vs the number of taxis at its peak.

Food prices keep going up despite falling demand.

Car prices keep going up despite sluggish demand in other countries and a strong SGD.

It's like groups of people are prodding up prices and deferring the much awaited soft landing.

It will be scary when everything starts crashing at the same time.

Perhaps right after the GE where PAP suffers shocking setbacks.

Economics is still at play.

But the items you mentioned are likely just not high enough yet to trigger the correction

I hope G can do more to help with inflation.

 

[radish]

its easy for rich ppl do say this bec they can afford the increase in price and i suspect they also hardly eat hawker food anyway.

 

[JustForFun]

Social enterprise operators to bid and manage new hawker centres is adding cost and headaches to hawkers and customers ?

Such failed and detrimental models should be abolished ?

 

[Ironside]

A lot of people scolded him. But what is in this post is all correct.

 

[pureice]

Sadly what a load of bs from this guy

Is just pure economics and market forces.

Other countries common food prices level are tagged to their domestic purchasing power. Really tok kok guy also can be EXMP?

 

[Foetid]

Personally I don’t think cheap hawker food is sustainable in Singapore.

We are the only developed country in the world with this low-priced eating option.

People understand that hawkers also need to make a good living. So it’s politically incorrect for them to insist that they keep their profits or wages low.

Ingredients are largely out of Singapore’s control since we import most raw food.

So everyone gripes about rent.

But one thing Singapore definitely does not have enough is space.

At least PSP Hazel Poa was honest enough to suggest that the alternative to bidding is balloting.

Balloting however harms hawkers and consumers.

If I can pay more and charge less to cook char kway teow, why should I be allocated a stall by luck ?

There are no easy answers.

I think in the end , prices have to rise and more people will have to cook at home.

This is what most people in developed countries do.

- From Calvin Cheng Facebook

Calvin cheng very rich, every meals can use sharkfins as mouthwash and bird nest as H20. its no joke if every meals pay few hundred dollars also bolasak.

seebei jelly.

 

[elmohootbigbird]

like the government says, its all supply n demand. everything pay more, people give birth less. just import more lo. i am sure everyone would be happier that way. not like SG really needs Singaporeans anyway. can always create new Singaporeans.

 

[Foetid]

Prices rise and more people cook at home
= less business
= hawkers more bo sim, next gen not interested, quality drop
= even less business
= closed

Isn't this what's happening now?

The key issue to me is that the principles of economics are for some reason not working in Singapore.

HDB prices keep going up and keep avoiding a long due market adjustment.

Transport costs keep going up despite all the innovation (eg EV), hiring from less rich countries and increase in over 3 times the number of phvs + taxis vs the number of taxis at its peak.

Food prices keep going up despite falling demand.

Car prices keep going up despite sluggish demand in other countries and a strong SGD.

It's like groups of people are prodding up prices and deferring the much awaited soft landing.

It will be scary when everything starts crashing at the same time.

Perhaps right after the GE where PAP suffers shocking setbacks.

All these price increase never affect the ministers and mayors la... But for us at the bottom layers, its like sucking blood away from our body.... ownself cooking so much more wuhua...

 

[Pukunara]

Prices rise and more people cook at home
= less business
= hawkers more bo sim, next gen not interested, quality drop
= even less business
= closed

Isn't this what's happening now?

The key issue to me is that the principles of economics are for some reason not working in Singapore.

HDB prices keep going up and keep avoiding a long due market adjustment.

Transport costs keep going up despite all the innovation (eg EV), hiring from less rich countries and increase in over 3 times the number of phvs + taxis vs the number of taxis at its peak.

Food prices keep going up despite falling demand.

Car prices keep going up despite sluggish demand in other countries and a strong SGD.

It's like groups of people are prodding up prices and deferring the much awaited soft landing.

It will be scary when everything starts crashing at the same time.

Perhaps right after the GE where PAP suffers shocking setbacks.

New lauch condos are mostly sold out and buyers are majority locals. HDB is very cheap. Stop complaining.

 

[nyvrem]

Give every buddy voucher voucher riao

means all is well

 

[psyger-zero]

New lauch condos are mostly sold out and buyers are majority locals. HDB is very cheap. Stop complaining.

Hi there,are u a relative or close friend of calvin?

 

[Ethan_]

Hawker culture came from street food. And street food suppose to be cheaper. Especially in other places. Don't know when many have the twisted mindset that hawker setting is supposed to charge atas price.

There is a reason for price of hawker food to be lower one. Its to maintain the street food culture and feed the masses. If the food is really that good and worth that much dollar. Then would have go set up a shop or restaurant instead liao. Not squeeze with the other lower end food for business in a cluster setting.

There have to be option to provide for ordinary people eat out at affordable pricing. If not, if same expensive, many would have eat at home or prefer a better setting such as restaurant if they want to pay so much for it.

 

[Firstclass1188]

Personally I don’t think cheap hawker food is sustainable in Singapore.
We are the only developed country in the world with this low-priced eating option.
People understand that hawkers also need to make a good living. So it’s politically incorrect for them to insist that they keep their profits or wages low.
Ingredients are largely out of Singapore’s control since we import most raw food.
So everyone gripes about rent.
But one thing Singapore definitely does not have enough is space.
At least PSP Hazel Poa was honest enough to suggest that the alternative to bidding is balloting.
Balloting however harms hawkers and consumers.
If I can pay more and charge less to cook char kway teow, why should I be allocated a stall by luck ?
There are no easy answers.
I think in the end , prices have to rise and more people will have to cook at home.
This is what most people in developed countries do.
- From Calvin Cheng Facebook

Robot cooks and cut out the middle man is the future.

Hawker food is just repetitive, stirring, staining and putting sauce and dumping the ingredients, perfect for automation.


Read HWZ Forum Rules!

 

[MyWill]

I also think ppl need to ownself cook for family. Healthier. Less diabetic cases.

BUT PAP muz set working hours to 9am - 4.30pm. Same as developed nations. And no OT allowed. Ppl need to go home cook.

 

[testerjp]

PAP won't make Balloting work.

It will start from a price no different from market price or higher. .

There's also no guarantee that they will release on all ballot, most hdb units are passed to agents to lease out.

 

[tuxguy]

Simi no easy answer? Ok, easy question - who controls rentals at hawker centres?

 

[fortunehunter]

Hawker culture came from street food. And street food suppose to be cheaper. Especially in other places. Don't know when many have the twisted mindset that hawker setting is supposed to charge atas price.

There is a reason for price of hawker food to be lower one. Its to maintain the street food culture and feed the masses. If the food is really that good and worth that much dollar. Then would have go set up a shop or restaurant instead liao. Not squeeze with the other lower end food for business in a cluster setting.

There have to be option to provide for ordinary people eat out at affordable pricing. If not, if same expensive, many would have eat at home or prefer a better setting such as restaurant if they want to pay so much for it.

This.
If they want sell atas price go to tangling all the way down to suntec all they want.
Neighbourhood Is mean for peasant.