ABC News - Indonesia arrests a Chinese man wanted by Beijing over money laundering charges

[bio_chap]

From google:

Because INTERPOL respects the sovereignty of its member nations, it cannot and does not conduct its own on-the-ground investigation of a purported crime. A Red Notice is NOT an arrest warrant and is NOT based on any INTERPOL investigation. A Red Notice adds no additional force to an otherwise valid arrest warrant.

" Yuldi Yusman, the Director of Immigration Supervision and Enforcement, said Yan was arrested following an Interpol red notice for him. The notices request law enforcement agencies worldwide to detain or arrest a suspect wanted by a specific country. "

 

[hardindex]

I think its kind of obvious, the Fujian Tigers case SG took the money and didn't return to China. Now they don't want SG's help

 

[jeffprobst]

really is safe heaven for such people. lose face on international scene.

 

[rEe_TaN]

" Yuldi Yusman, the Director of Immigration Supervision and Enforcement, said Yan was arrested following an Interpol red notice for him. The notices request law enforcement agencies worldwide to detain or arrest a suspect wanted by a specific country. "

Means that they know he might be keeping cash in his house and thus launch the arrest? Anyway, it is confirmed that red notice doesnt mean arrest nor investigation.

 

[Medicated Oil]

I think its kind of obvious, the Fujian Tigers case SG took the money and didn't return to China. Now they don't want SG's help

The money, in whatever form or way, will remain safe here.

 

[cpuer]

so ccp decides where to rope in their crooks, maybe spf would prove to dig too deep and too revealing?

 

[bio_chap]

Means that they know he might be keeping cash in his house and thus launch the arrest? Anyway, it is confirmed that red notice doesnt mean arrest nor investigation.

means indo side more proactive in carry out enforcement work for those on red notice despite no extradition request from china

 

[popdod]

Thanks for 4G leadership.

 

[Medicated Oil]

means indo side more proactive in carry out enforcement work for those on red notice despite no extradition request from china

I guess the indo unit will still need some help and support from the local unit if they want to complete their investigation on the guy.
Will the local unit provide the requested assist ?

 

[hctawsgs]

If the PAP gov is serious about wiping out money laundering in Singapore, then it should detained this scammer upon receiving Interpol red alert and deport him back to China with or without request. We should not harbour criminals here for the sake of dirty money that has been inflating our real estate assets and fueling the inflation that is running rampant. Don't give me this bullsht about their SOP.....

 

[Hyperephania]

But then as for the PR, not implying anything, not sure exact. But think perhaps, PR is PR, as long as didn't do any wrong in local. No way to fault bah.

I disagree. Assuming this is their official statement - "The agencies also clarified that no Interpol Red Notice existed when Yan was granted permanent residency in Singapore.", it is implied that if there were interpol notice during the application, the guy will not get his PR.

So my question to this specific case is what was done when they receive the notice?

 

[hctawsgs]

I disagree. Assuming this is their official statement - "The agencies also clarified that no Interpol Red Notice existed when Yan was granted permanent residency in Singapore.", it is implied that if there were interpol notice during the application, the guy will not get his PR.

So my question to this specific case is what was done when they receive the notice?

Good question. PR is a privilege, they should have taken away his PR once they receive Interpol notice and not have him running around in this island plotting another scam.

 

[vangug]

don't need defend SG... this is one of the main issues indonesia has with us... even when contacted we also didn't help capture and send back the indon billionaires they wanted... we are selective yet request such assistance from our neighbors...

 

[ahnyaahnya]

But the explanation by our police doesn't seem to hold water.

Countries whose investigation subjects have fled abroad would have put them on interpol red notice. So it doesn't seem logical that a country must still explicitly request another country to do the arrests since it is very possible that the originating country does not know which country their suspects are in.

So the onus is really on the countries to take the interpol red notice more seriously and proactively arrest the subjects listed in the red notice rather than wait for the originating country to explicitly request to arrest.

Yup. Red Notice means that they ARE requesting all other countries to arrest the guy temporarily. ( someone posted a page from Interpol website here. It says that)

 

[icebleue]

Does sg hv extradition treaty with china? N how come sg request china to help catch d 14 hse burglars who escaped back to china. china bochup?

No. We don’t have extradition law with China.
You can always run there after committing crimes…
And if you are rich China probably doesn’t bother.

 

[MyWill]

I disagree. Assuming this is their official statement - "The agencies also clarified that no Interpol Red Notice existed when Yan was granted permanent residency in Singapore.", it is implied that if there were interpol notice during the application, the guy will not get his PR.

So my question to this specific case is what was done when they receive the notice?

I agree with u.
Actually everything computerised nowadays. If receive interpol alert, ica can simply run it against list of arrival/ departure, AND list of citizens/ PR. Likely a 1 second job since google search engine is faster when searching entire internet.

 

[ahnyaahnya]

But did he got his pr after being wanted by Interpol or before

Before. So can't fault them on that.
But after the Red Alert was issued, no excuse for not arresting him

 

[popdod]

Before. So can't fault them on that.
But after the Red Alert was issued, no excuse for not arresting him

PR should oledi reviewed even no request from china

ownself commit ownself mistake
still no say sorry.

 

[Medicated Oil]

Before. So can't fault them on that.
But after the Red Alert was issued, no excuse for not arresting him

Well...
They never explained WHY they never revoke his PR status.
Or they waiting for him to be arrested then they do it ?
Or there are too many of them living here ?

 

[jonesftw]

Jin satki, immigration screen don't have a interpol warning / alert when exiting sg?


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