解签 - Decipher of Divination lots from Temples

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Hi Master ZXX, just wanted to clarify if when getting lots, two/multiple lots come out same time, what is the SOP?

Because sequence is important and multiple lots at same time cannot interpret, do I put back the two/multiple lots back straight away without using shengbei to confirm anything and shake again, or put aside the two/multiple as rejected?
 

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Hi Master ZXX, just wanted to clarify if when getting lots, two/multiple lots come out same time, what is the SOP?

Because sequence is important and multiple lots at same time cannot interpret, do I put back the two/multiple lots back straight away without using shengbei to confirm anything and shake again, or put aside the two/multiple as rejected?

Hi

If 2 or more lots come out of the lot tin at same time, can just put all the lots back to the tin again and continue shaking.

only 1 lot come out then will proceed to ask Gym if this is the lot that he want give via sheng bei.
 

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Hi! :) May I know if it's too early for me to ask GYM a similar question as the one I had asked Her yesterday, using 3 Shengbei method for Yes/No answer, tomorrow? Will the accuracy of the answer be affected?
 

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Hi! :) May I know if it's too early for me to ask GYM a similar question as the one I had asked Her yesterday, using 3 Shengbei method for Yes/No answer, tomorrow? Will the accuracy of the answer be affected?
u can say on XX date, u asked a similar question and would like clarity and ask again..
 

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Hi..

For your case.

You can tell GYM your situation like what you mentioned above.

Then, you ask the following question.

a) If joining back your previous employer a better choice for you?
If yes, please give you 1 sheng bei and you throw.

regardless, of results, you proceed to ask:

(b) if you should continue on your existing job and give it more time ?
if yes, please give you 1 sheng bei and you throw.

in event, you gotten sheng bei or no sheng bei for both questions, you ask GYM please advice via lot and you start drawing lots (following the SOP)

the SOP can be found at the first few place of this thread.
Hi Master ZXX, as previously, followed your advice to ask GYM as I am in dilemma whether to continue with current new job, or go back to previous company.

Using blocks method, I got Shengbei when asking if better for me to join back previous company (option A), and I got yingbei when asking if I should stay in current and give more time (option B). I think answer is clear.

i wanted to ask GYM for advice if I go back to my previous company (option A), what I should take note. I proceeded to shake lots without asking permission so I am not sure if this is correct.

I got lot 33, confirmed with shengbei, and when ask if any further lot I got xiaobei. So I take it only have one lot of 33. Can I ask if this can be interpreted?
 

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Hi Master ZXX, as previously, followed your advice to ask GYM as I am in dilemma whether to continue with current new job, or go back to previous company.

Using blocks method, I got Shengbei when asking if better for me to join back previous company (option A), and I got yingbei when asking if I should stay in current and give more time (option B). I think answer is clear.

i wanted to ask GYM for advice if I go back to my previous company (option A), what I should take note. I proceeded to shake lots without asking permission so I am not sure if this is correct.

I got lot 33, confirmed with shengbei, and when ask if any further lot I got xiaobei. So I take it only have one lot of 33. Can I ask if this can be interpreted?
Hi

ok btw right need ask permission but this round never ask is fine de..

as for the lot 33, Gym wish to inform you that when you are back to your previous company, you may need to be more careful with the people there like 人际关系方面要多留意一下.

my take: i not sure why Gym want you to take note of 人际关系 but my guessing is maybe you return to your previous company and people there may think you eat 回头草 and may see you abit differently, just my guessing.
 

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Hi

ok btw right need ask permission but this round never ask is fine de..

as for the lot 33, Gym wish to inform you that when you are back to your previous company, you may need to be more careful with the people there like 人际关系方面要多留意一下.

my take: i not sure why Gym want you to take note of 人际关系 but my guessing is maybe you return to your previous company and people there may think you eat 回头草 and may see you abit differently, just my guessing.
Hi Master, thank you for the guidance! Is there any advice on how best to manage this? For e.g. seeking GYM for blessing when I return to my previous company?
 

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Hi Master, thank you for the guidance! Is there any advice on how best to manage this? For e.g. seeking GYM for blessing when I return to my previous company?
For this, maybe try to be low profile when you return to your previous company.

Best is go to temple to pray and seek Gym blessing for everything to be smooth before you return to your previous company to work (before first day of work)
 

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Hi Master ZXX, I have benefited from your help and very thankful you and others have been helping to decipher lots. Sometimes I find myself asking repeated questions, so I thought maybe I help to collate some common FAQs that may help people here, so that they can follow and ask correctly and no need to go back again.

Sorry for the long post, and I hope I did not misinterpreted any of your advice and end up state wrong advice to others. Please let me know if anything is wrong and needs to be corrected 🙏

Shengbei Method

Q. When using shengbei method asking for two options, and get either both no shengbei, or both shengbei for the two options, do I need to ask for permission to draw lots for advice?
A: No need, can proceed straightaway to follow the draw lots method to seek advice

Q. When using shengbei method, if I have two options to ask, outcome is only one option out of two options is shengbei yes, do I need to ask for permission to draw lots for further advice
A: Yes, need to ask for permission, and only upon shengbei then can proceed to draw lots

Q. If I use shengbei method and ask for 3 shengbeis, what if I get shengbei, shengbei, xiaobei?
A. This means not a yes answer

Q. When using shengbei method, what if I get xiaobei on my first throw?
A. If first one is xiaobei, you can rephrase to be clearer and throw again. But for three-shengbei method, if you get xiaobei on second or third throw, is considered answer no

Q. If I get multiple xiaobei during yes/no question, what does it mean?
A. First xiaobei mean question not clear. But if multiple xiaobei, it could mean GYM do not wish to answer or commit an answer to you

Q. Should i use three-shengbei method or one-shengbei method for yes?
A. 3 continuous sheng bei is one of the very high standards of confirming, like yes plus chop so it is considered more accurate than 1 sheng bei. 3 sheng beis mean your answer is confirmed by 天,地,人 aspects. But 1 shengbei also does not mean it is not accurate as every answer given is given by GYM too. Important thing is upfront need to tell GYM to give you 1 or 3-shengbei as a yes

Q. What does it mean if for three-shengbei method, I get first two shengbeis, and last shengbei is xiao/yingbei?
A. This is the advanced technique. First 2 got sheng beis can mean yes but there are hidden or some other reasons that you need to know in order to get 3 sheng beis. If you don't know whats the hidden or unknown reasons, it can be as good as no. If you find it confusing, can just strictly follow no 3 straight sheng bei = no

Draw Lot Method

Q. During draw lot, if there are two/multiple lots that come out at same time, what do I do?
A. Put the two/multiple lots back and shake again

Q. What happen if I get xiaobei when confirming lot is indeed the one given by GYM?
A. Xiaobei means no, and hence is rejected lot. Xiaobei does not mean you need to ask and confirm again.

Asking Questions SOP

Q. Will it be ok if I speak Chinese and English when I ask question?
A. Both languages is fine, gym can understand

Q. When asking question related to date time, the period say should be lunar date or English date?
A. Lot date is using lunar and the month to ask can be based on english as ZXX will help to convert to avoid confusion

Q. If I asking for lot, and keep getting many no sheng beis when confirming lots, what do I do?
A. You can just continue to shake as you already asked GYM if got advice for you and he gave you a sheng bei. Since GYM said will give you lot to advice mean he will give, just that have to be patient as there are 90+ lots in the tin, it would need some time for the right lot to come out

Q. If in any part of the draw lot process, I did not follow the SOP, can you still help to interpret?
A. No, you have to follow the SOP

Q. What if i followed the draw lot SOP, but I forgot the lot number, or the order of the lots?
A. You can return and ask GYM again. But you need to inform GYM when and what time you came to ask before, what the questions you ask, (if you drew lot after no shengbei/both shengbei for yes/no, you need to tell GYM you asked but you get no/yes sheng bei for both your question that's why you proceed to draw lot). Then tell GYM to ensure you get GYM advice correctly, you will seek to draw lot again

Q. What if I didn't ask GYM whether there is more lot after the first lot?
A. You can go back and ask. But you need to tell GYM that you previously came (date time) to ask about (topic) and gotten which lot, but you left after and did not confirm if have more lot. So now you wish to check with GYM if there is more lot after the first lot. If yes, give you 1 shengbei and proceed to draw lot. If no, that means GYM only want to give one lot

Topic Related Questions

Q. For relationship, do I need to keep asking for rest of period, even if I already get shengbei?
A. Yes you need to as you may receive answers of meeting someone in 2 different periods like sheng bei for now till Jan 2025 and another sheng bei for the period between Jan 2025 to June 2025

Q. Can I ask GYM regarding job whether I should stay at current or find new job?
A. First you need to decide if you are keen to stay or move on. If you prefer to move on, go ahead and find a new job first. Once you get offer, you can use shengbei method to ask GYM which option is better (stay or accept new job)

Q. If I already accepted a job offer and have thrown letter, can I ask if choice is right?
A. Usually no as if GYM say not right choice how? Even you made the wrong choice, its already materialised and just do the best for it. Since you already accepted the job, you can ask what's the advice for you to ensure everything will be smooth at your new job would be beneficial to you

Q. If I got a question on whether something will happen or stop soon (e.g. nasty colleagues, or someone causing disturbance), how can I ask GYM?
A. You can use shengbei SOP. Ask GYM if high chance will happen or stop within these 2 months (e.g. Sep-Oct), if yes give shengbei. Continue to ask for following period, if no shengbei. Once have shengbei, you can ask GYM if ok to give lots to advice on issue. If yes, proceed to draw lots. If no, GYM does not wish to advice so pray and give thanks to GYM. If in event all the period you ask no sheng bei, you ask GYM is it need longer time and give shengbei if yes (if yes, you can go back to ask again around 6 months later). If still no shengbei, you can ask gym to advise and straight away proceed to draw lots

Q. What can I do if I ask for luck in the new year and it is not good?
A. Usually if luck not too good in the year , recommend to visit temple to pray and make donations (based on yr means) regularly will help

Q. For health issues, can I ask GYM for advice?
A. For health issues, usually seek professional advice first. Unless you went to a few doctors and all cannot conclude anything, then you look for GYM

Other General Matters

Q. For yes no type of question, why should I use shengbei method instead of draw lots?
A. Usually direct question is like yes no or option kind of question which use sheng bei can get the answer almost instantly. if you want to draw lot, you wont get a concrete clear answer and often get more confused instead.

Q. How long usually need to wait for lot to take effect?
A. This one hard to say but high chance is within the 6 months after you gotten the lot unless one of the lot got mentioned certain timing

Q. Can I ask question to GYM on predicting outcome?
A. Usually not appropriate to ask as GYM may say yes but along the way if you did not put enough effort or made mistake (for some reasons). It will cause the outcome to change too

Q. How can I get a 护身符 ?
A. You can go to the counter and ask. After you take le rmb go 香炉 turn 3 rounds in clockwise

Q. Am I allowed to ask the 2 questions in one seating while following SOP for each question or advisable to split it to 2 different trips down to the temple?
A. Yes you can ask 2 questions. Upfront you need to tell Gym clearly that you got 2 questions. After asking the first question, lets say completed drawing lots, you reset or restart the entire process will do.

Q. Does it count if first time I ask GYM and is no. But I return on another day to ask the same and got yes?
A. Usually the first attempt is the answer and it defeats the purpose if you re-try again. It's like GYM replied a No but you hope for a yes, so Gym just gave you a yes. You may be curious of why gave you a yes on your 2nd try, reason being GYM know our personality and character and also understand you may keep trying to get the answer you want.. GYM also dont wish to see us knee-ing there keep trying for "n" times. So just give a yes and let you try (based on what you asked) so you can accept a no after experiencing the long route.
 

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Hi Master ZXX, I have benefited from your help and very thankful you and others have been helping to decipher lots. Sometimes I find myself asking repeated questions, so I thought maybe I help to collate some common FAQs that may help people here, so that they can follow and ask correctly and no need to go back again.

Sorry for the long post, and I hope I did not misinterpreted any of your advice and end up state wrong advice to others. Please let me know if anything is wrong and needs to be corrected 🙏

Shengbei Method

Q. When using shengbei method asking for two options, and get either both no shengbei, or both shengbei for the two options, do I need to ask for permission to draw lots for advice?
A: No need, can proceed straightaway to follow the draw lots method to seek advice

Q. When using shengbei method, if I have two options to ask, outcome is only one option out of two options is shengbei yes, do I need to ask for permission to draw lots for further advice
A: Yes, need to ask for permission, and only upon shengbei then can proceed to draw lots

Q. If I use shengbei method and ask for 3 shengbeis, what if I get shengbei, shengbei, xiaobei?
A. This means not a yes answer

Q. When using shengbei method, what if I get xiaobei on my first throw?
A. If first one is xiaobei, you can rephrase to be clearer and throw again. But for three-shengbei method, if you get xiaobei on second or third throw, is considered answer no

Q. If I get multiple xiaobei during yes/no question, what does it mean?
A. First xiaobei mean question not clear. But if multiple xiaobei, it could mean GYM do not wish to answer or commit an answer to you

Q. Should i use three-shengbei method or one-shengbei method for yes?
A. 3 continuous sheng bei is one of the very high standards of confirming, like yes plus chop so it is considered more accurate than 1 sheng bei. 3 sheng beis mean your answer is confirmed by 天,地,人 aspects. But 1 shengbei also does not mean it is not accurate as every answer given is given by GYM too. Important thing is upfront need to tell GYM to give you 1 or 3-shengbei as a yes

Q. What does it mean if for three-shengbei method, I get first two shengbeis, and last shengbei is xiao/yingbei?
A. This is the advanced technique. First 2 got sheng beis can mean yes but there are hidden or some other reasons that you need to know in order to get 3 sheng beis. If you don't know whats the hidden or unknown reasons, it can be as good as no. If you find it confusing, can just strictly follow no 3 straight sheng bei = no

Draw Lot Method

Q. During draw lot, if there are two/multiple lots that come out at same time, what do I do?
A. Put the two/multiple lots back and shake again

Q. What happen if I get xiaobei when confirming lot is indeed the one given by GYM?
A. Xiaobei means no, and hence is rejected lot. Xiaobei does not mean you need to ask and confirm again.

Asking Questions SOP

Q. Will it be ok if I speak Chinese and English when I ask question?
A. Both languages is fine, gym can understand

Q. When asking question related to date time, the period say should be lunar date or English date?
A. Lot date is using lunar and the month to ask can be based on english as ZXX will help to convert to avoid confusion

Q. If I asking for lot, and keep getting many no sheng beis when confirming lots, what do I do?
A. You can just continue to shake as you already asked GYM if got advice for you and he gave you a sheng bei. Since GYM said will give you lot to advice mean he will give, just that have to be patient as there are 90+ lots in the tin, it would need some time for the right lot to come out

Q. If in any part of the draw lot process, I did not follow the SOP, can you still help to interpret?
A. No, you have to follow the SOP

Q. What if i followed the draw lot SOP, but I forgot the lot number, or the order of the lots?
A. You can return and ask GYM again. But you need to inform GYM when and what time you came to ask before, what the questions you ask, (if you drew lot after no shengbei/both shengbei for yes/no, you need to tell GYM you asked but you get no/yes sheng bei for both your question that's why you proceed to draw lot). Then tell GYM to ensure you get GYM advice correctly, you will seek to draw lot again

Q. What if I didn't ask GYM whether there is more lot after the first lot?
A. You can go back and ask. But you need to tell GYM that you previously came (date time) to ask about (topic) and gotten which lot, but you left after and did not confirm if have more lot. So now you wish to check with GYM if there is more lot after the first lot. If yes, give you 1 shengbei and proceed to draw lot. If no, that means GYM only want to give one lot

Topic Related Questions

Q. For relationship, do I need to keep asking for rest of period, even if I already get shengbei?
A. Yes you need to as you may receive answers of meeting someone in 2 different periods like sheng bei for now till Jan 2025 and another sheng bei for the period between Jan 2025 to June 2025

Q. Can I ask GYM regarding job whether I should stay at current or find new job?
A. First you need to decide if you are keen to stay or move on. If you prefer to move on, go ahead and find a new job first. Once you get offer, you can use shengbei method to ask GYM which option is better (stay or accept new job)

Q. If I already accepted a job offer and have thrown letter, can I ask if choice is right?
A. Usually no as if GYM say not right choice how? Even you made the wrong choice, its already materialised and just do the best for it. Since you already accepted the job, you can ask what's the advice for you to ensure everything will be smooth at your new job would be beneficial to you

Q. If I got a question on whether something will happen or stop soon (e.g. nasty colleagues, or someone causing disturbance), how can I ask GYM?
A. You can use shengbei SOP. Ask GYM if high chance will happen or stop within these 2 months (e.g. Sep-Oct), if yes give shengbei. Continue to ask for following period, if no shengbei. Once have shengbei, you can ask GYM if ok to give lots to advice on issue. If yes, proceed to draw lots. If no, GYM does not wish to advice so pray and give thanks to GYM. If in event all the period you ask no sheng bei, you ask GYM is it need longer time and give shengbei if yes (if yes, you can go back to ask again around 6 months later). If still no shengbei, you can ask gym to advise and straight away proceed to draw lots

Q. What can I do if I ask for luck in the new year and it is not good?
A. Usually if luck not too good in the year , recommend to visit temple to pray and make donations (based on yr means) regularly will help

Q. For health issues, can I ask GYM for advice?
A. For health issues, usually seek professional advice first. Unless you went to a few doctors and all cannot conclude anything, then you look for GYM

Other General Matters

Q. For yes no type of question, why should I use shengbei method instead of draw lots?
A. Usually direct question is like yes no or option kind of question which use sheng bei can get the answer almost instantly. if you want to draw lot, you wont get a concrete clear answer and often get more confused instead.

Q. How long usually need to wait for lot to take effect?
A. This one hard to say but high chance is within the 6 months after you gotten the lot unless one of the lot got mentioned certain timing

Q. Can I ask question to GYM on predicting outcome?
A. Usually not appropriate to ask as GYM may say yes but along the way if you did not put enough effort or made mistake (for some reasons). It will cause the outcome to change too

Q. How can I get a 护身符 ?
A. You can go to the counter and ask. After you take le rmb go 香炉 turn 3 rounds in clockwise

Q. Am I allowed to ask the 2 questions in one seating while following SOP for each question or advisable to split it to 2 different trips down to the temple?
A. Yes you can ask 2 questions. Upfront you need to tell Gym clearly that you got 2 questions. After asking the first question, lets say completed drawing lots, you reset or restart the entire process will do.

Q. Does it count if first time I ask GYM and is no. But I return on another day to ask the same and got yes?
A. Usually the first attempt is the answer and it defeats the purpose if you re-try again. It's like GYM replied a No but you hope for a yes, so Gym just gave you a yes. You may be curious of why gave you a yes on your 2nd try, reason being GYM know our personality and character and also understand you may keep trying to get the answer you want.. GYM also dont wish to see us knee-ing there keep trying for "n" times. So just give a yes and let you try (based on what you asked) so you can accept a no after experiencing the long route.
Thank you for taking time to collate all the impt points.

It would be very beneficial to people who wish to seek Gym's help :)
 

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Asking about relationship related questions:

For single, hoping to meet someone. There are 2 type of questions that one can ask.

1. When will the 有缘人 appear?

for 1. can use sheng bei to ask.
a. Ask GYM or God of the temple when it will appear.
b. If it will appear between June to Dec 2024, please give you 1 sheng bei.
- if you gotten 1 sheng bei or no sheng bei, proceed to to c.
c. if it will appear between Jan to June 2025, please give you 1 sheng bei.
- if you gotten 1 sheng bei or no sheng bei, proceed to to d.
d. if it will appear between july to Dec 2025, please give you 1 sheng bei.
- if you gotten 1 sheng bei or no sheng bei, proceed to to e.
e. if it will appear between Jan 2026 to June 2026, please give you 1 sheng bei.

By now you should have the answer. if you gotten a sheng bei for the period asked like between Jan to June 2025 and no sheng bei for the other period you asked, it mean you got very high chance of meeting the person between Jan to June 2025.

You could also received answers of meeting someone in 2 periods too. So during that period, you need to increase your social activities like meeting more people like new friends or old friends that you did not contact for sometime. Please do not do nothing and expect the 有缘人to come find you, chances of it appearing out of no where is low.

in event, all the periods (usually we asked for 2 years) do not have sheng bei, you have to ask GYM or the Temple god to advice what went wrong or something that you need take note of change ? as within 2 years for sure, there will be some 缘分 appearing. So you take the lot tin and start drawing lots (Follow draw lots SOP).

For attached couple, from my experiences, usually people like to ask the following:
i. if he or she is the one i will married or settle down with (正缘)?
ii. What to do to improve the relationship (usually couple met with issues)

i. If you have been together with your bf/gf for more than 6 months or 1 year, usually wont advise to ask such question because both already put in effort into the relationship and if want to end the relationship due to this, it would be hard for his/her partner to swallow if nothing bad has happened between both of you (like relationship is stable etc)

One can ask GYM or the temple god, if the person is my 正缘。
- Follow the ask question using sheng bei SOP
- Inform GYM or god that currently you are in a relationship with so and so (Say the partner name and DOB)
- Ask if so and so (your partner) is your 正缘? if yes give you 1 sheng bei.

So what if you are not suitable to ask if your partner is your 正缘? (Together for quite sometime like more than 1 year kind).
if both have the intention to move to next stage like getting married. One can ask GYM or the temple God, in current relationship, what to take note or have to change to ensure the relationship would be ok/smooth esp after marriage.

This question have to draw lot so need to follow the draw lot SOP.

For married couples, the most common questions received was:
- Should i divorce with my wife or husband?

For such question, usually GYM or temple God likely wont answer you directly (Unless special circumstances which is very rare).
One has to decide if you want to save the marriage or dont want to save the marriage ?

If one do not want to save the marriage, can no need to ask at all.
If one wish to save the marriage, can ask for advice on how to go about saving it via drawing lots.

For such question, if you need more info do feel free to DM me.
Master ZXX, would like to seek your advice on r/s and career matters. However they do not fall into these options hence the question here, hope you don’t mind

R/S:
I caught feelings for someone and it has been some time but I have not moved on. Previously, I have already asked GYM (via 3rd party) and she says he is not the one. After some time when I had the chance to ask GYM personally, I got Lot 44. While I still hope to keep in touch and explore things further with him, I did not actively reach out to him because I am at a rather uncertain point in my life now. We are based in different cities which makes it harder, and I do not want to be distracted by matters related to him until I’m more settled. The timeline I had was to reach out earliest July 2025 if everything goes well. However, I got to know recently that he is seeing someone and I’m rather sad. I will definitely not reach out to him if he is confirmed to be attached but I do not know what I should do ie. whether I can hold onto these feelings for him and reach out if he becomes available again some day. How do you think I should ask GYM? (And if GYM says to move on, how should I ask GYM to expedite this process? He’s been on my mind for too long I’ve gotten myself too battered trying to move on I almost wish I never knew him. Hence why I planned to reach out again and not try so hard to move on anymore especially if life is more settled then)

Career:
There’s an industry that I was rather certain I am passionate about, but was struggling quite a bit. Via same 3rd party, it turned out that that industry is not for me according to GYM. No matter how many times the 3rd party asked, the answer was consistently no. This industry is however the only industry I have experience in and have also dedicated a lot of time and effort to. I am also still very passionate about it, with the exception being times when I feel extremely burnt out. However I attribute it to my general disposition to overthink and overload myself, which I’m learning to manage now. Now that I can personally ask GYM, do you think I can ask GYM again and if it’s still a no, how can I seek guidance from her?

Apologies for the long text and thank you very much for any advice you can offer!
 

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R/S:
You should ask kym if he is your 正缘 with sheng bei first
if he is ur 正缘, then u can ask how to go forward, if he is not, then u can ask how to guide you to find ur 正缘

Career:
Similarly, ask using sheng bei first

Also, its better to ask urself
 

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R/S:
You should ask kym if he is your 正缘 with sheng bei first
if he is ur 正缘, then u can ask how to go forward, if he is not, then u can ask how to guide you to find ur 正缘

Career:
Similarly, ask using sheng bei first

Also, its better to ask urself
Thank you for your reply:)

Quite sure he’s not my 正缘, but I am just unable to move on and hope to reconnect in the future. I don’t intend to ask about when I’d meet my 正缘too, just want to ask matters regarding him like how I should do with my feelings, if he’s ever consider me if he’s available and if not how can I move on

Career:
Yep, I’d do that thank you!

And just to clarify, I can disregard every Qian that the third party got and re-ask GYM again personally this time am I right?
 
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Master ZXX, would like to seek your advice on r/s and career matters. However they do not fall into these options hence the question here, hope you don’t mind

R/S:
I caught feelings for someone and it has been some time but I have not moved on. Previously, I have already asked GYM (via 3rd party) and she says he is not the one. After some time when I had the chance to ask GYM personally, I got Lot 44. While I still hope to keep in touch and explore things further with him, I did not actively reach out to him because I am at a rather uncertain point in my life now. We are based in different cities which makes it harder, and I do not want to be distracted by matters related to him until I’m more settled. The timeline I had was to reach out earliest July 2025 if everything goes well. However, I got to know recently that he is seeing someone and I’m rather sad. I will definitely not reach out to him if he is confirmed to be attached but I do not know what I should do ie. whether I can hold onto these feelings for him and reach out if he becomes available again some day. How do you think I should ask GYM? (And if GYM says to move on, how should I ask GYM to expedite this process? He’s been on my mind for too long I’ve gotten myself too battered trying to move on I almost wish I never knew him. Hence why I planned to reach out again and not try so hard to move on anymore especially if life is more settled then)

Career:
There’s an industry that I was rather certain I am passionate about, but was struggling quite a bit. Via same 3rd party, it turned out that that industry is not for me according to GYM. No matter how many times the 3rd party asked, the answer was consistently no. This industry is however the only industry I have experience in and have also dedicated a lot of time and effort to. I am also still very passionate about it, with the exception being times when I feel extremely burnt out. However I attribute it to my general disposition to overthink and overload myself, which I’m learning to manage now. Now that I can personally ask GYM, do you think I can ask GYM again and if it’s still a no, how can I seek guidance from her?

Apologies for the long text and thank you very much for any advice you can offer!

Hi..

based on what you mentioned, seems like all the lots that gotten were via 3rd party. all i can say it would not be accurate and was interpreted by someone else too.

for your r/s question,
i can see you are not sure if should move on or wait for the guy. hence, its better to ask Gym if the guy is your zheng yuan or not. if he is not, its time to move on as there wont be any outcome for both.

if he is your zheng yuan, you can take some approach like contact him etc but since both of you are at different cities, it would be quite difficult also.

For career,

how did the 3rd party asked on your behalf? using sheng bei or drawing lot?
 

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Hi..

based on what you mentioned, seems like all the lots that gotten were via 3rd party. all i can say it would not be accurate and was interpreted by someone else too.

for your r/s question,
i can see you are not sure if should move on or wait for the guy. hence, its better to ask Gym if the guy is your zheng yuan or not. if he is not, its time to move on as there wont be any outcome for both.

if he is your zheng yuan, you can take some approach like contact him etc but since both of you are at different cities, it would be quite difficult also.

For career,

how did the 3rd party asked on your behalf? using sheng bei or drawing lot?
shengbei method, afterwards she drew lots to ask what I should do if the industry is not for me and I got a lot that says to have faith in GYM (forgot what lot it was)
 

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shengbei method, afterwards she drew lots to ask what I should do if the industry is not for me and I got a lot that says to have faith in GYM (forgot what lot it was)
i see..

Just to share with you, if a 3rd party would like to enquire on your behalf, actually the 3rd party has to seek Gym's approval first before asking. otherwise, the answer that 3rd party received will not be accurate.

Example: The 3rd party has to inform Gym that he or she is asking on behalf of ABC because of certain reasons, and would like to check if he or she is allowed to ask on ABC behalf, if ok please give 1 sheng bei.

if received no sheng bei = no allowed to ask on behalf
if received sheng bei = 3rd party can proceed to ask.

This is because due some confidential info or issues which Gym do not wish to let the 3rd party know.

Lastly, i can say that the 3rd party or you had interpreted the lot wrongly.
 

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i see..

Just to share with you, if a 3rd party would like to enquire on your behalf, actually the 3rd party has to seek Gym's approval first before asking. otherwise, the answer that 3rd party received will not be accurate.

Example: The 3rd party has to inform Gym that he or she is asking on behalf of ABC because of certain reasons, and would like to check if he or she is allowed to ask on ABC behalf, if ok please give 1 sheng bei.

if received no sheng bei = no allowed to ask on behalf
if received sheng bei = 3rd party can proceed to ask.

This is because due some confidential info or issues which Gym do not wish to let the 3rd party know.

Lastly, i can say that the 3rd party or you had interpreted the lot wrongly.
When you say I had interpreted the lot wrongly, did you mean the lot 44 for the guy I was interested in? I actually got the lot myself by telling GYM everything that happened, how I can’t move on and am very tired of liking him without being sure of whether there’d be an outcome
 

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When you say I had interpreted the lot wrongly, did you mean the lot 44 for the guy I was interested in? I actually got the lot myself by telling GYM everything that happened, how I can’t move on and am very tired of liking him without being sure of whether there’d be an outcome
all the lots by 3rd party are inaccurate / misinterpreted

for lot 44, ur wall of text is confusing, please state exact question, and also since u did not ask if there are > 1 lot, it is going to be incomplete.

to help you, i think u go down again, follow the procedure on 1st page and redo
 
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