TP-Link Archer WiFi 6E/7 Router and Deco WiFi 6E/7 mesh solution

[Jurong640]

Speed test, around 1.2m away from BE805, using Samsung Galaxy S24 on WiFi 6E 6Ghz band.

Tested against Campana server.

 

[xiaofan]

Speed test, around 1.2m away from BE805, using Samsung Galaxy S24 on WiFi 6E 6Ghz band.

Tested against Campana server.

Very good speed for WiFi 6/6E already. There is a 2Gbps barrier which is not easy to break for 2x2 WiFi 6/6E clients..

2x2 AX/AXE 80Mhz channle bandwidth on 5GHz/6GHz band, 1024 QAM --> 1201 Mbps PHY connection speed, real world good WiFi speed up to 700Mbps to 900 Mbps, but difficult to be higher than 1Gbps. Max may be 961Gbps. 1201 Mbps x 80% = 960.8 Mbps.

2x2 AX/AXE 160Mhz channle bandwidth on 5GHz/6GHz band, 1024 QAM --> 2402 Mbps PHY connection speed, real world good WiFi speed up to 1.4 Gbps to 1.8Gbps, but difficult to be higher than 1.8Gbps. Max may be 1.92Gbps. 2402 Mbps x 80% = 1921.6 Gbps.

2x2 BE 160Mhz channle bandwidth on 5GHz/6GHz band, 4096 QAM --> 2882 Mbps PHY connection speed, real world good WiFi speed up to 1.6 to 2.0 Gbps, but difficult to be higher than 2.0 Gbps. Max may be 2.3Gbps. 2882 Mbps x 80% = 2305.6 Mbps. Some WiFi 6E device may support 4096QAM as well on the 5Ghz/6GHz band (non-standard).

2x2 BE 320Mhz channle bandwidth on 6GHz band, 4096 QAM --> 5764 Mbps PHY connection speed, real world good WiFi speed up to 3Gbps to 4 Gbps, but difficult to be higher than 4 Gbps, max may be 4.6Gbps. 5764Mbps x 80% = 4611.2 Mbps.

Good WiFi 7 MLO implementation (router + client), 2.4GHz+6GHz MLO, 5GHz+6GHz MLO, or even 2.4GHz+5GHz+6GHz MLO--> 3Gbps to 5Gbps, may hit above 5Gbps for good WiFi 7 clients.

Good WiFi 7 MLO implementation (router + client) --> may hit above 5Gbps for good WiFi 7 clients.

 

[xiaofan]

Oh, i was confused when you commented in SH thread that you got SH 5gbps plan, when I remembered you have Singtel 5Gbps plan. haha

What's the use case for using the router as AP mode instead of the main router?

Is it like those BTO's where the main router is placed beside the TP point in the box? Then wired up to living room for the BE805?

No, I have OpenWRT as my main router with more features than Asus or TP-Link wireless routers. So I use the wireless router as APs.

 

[Jurong640]

No, I have OpenWRT as my main router with more features than Asus or TP-Link wireless routers. So I use the wireless router as APs.

Oh. So the router like BE805 will be just for wireless clients, while your OpenWRT is like a modem with advance features like NAT, without WiFi features?

What's the benefit of using OpenWRT before router like BE805?

 

[xiaofan]

Oh. So the router like BE805 will be just for wireless clients, while your OpenWRT is like a modem with advance features like NAT, without WiFi features?

What's the benefit of using OpenWRT before router like BE805?

My Intel N100 mini-PC running OpenWRT --> connected to the ONT (or bridged ONR in my Singtel use case), main router of the network, without WiFi function.

Some users use wireless routers running OpenWRT as well. In fact, many wireless routers run some customized version of OpenWRT, like those from Xiaomi.

Benefits of using OpenWRT:
https://openwrt.org/reasons_to_use_openwrt

Power users may go with even more powerful ones like pfSense or OPNsense (usually only wired). They may have more advanced Firewall and other functions and may be more polished than OpenWRT.
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/threads/starting-pfsense-for-new-users.6390714/
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/threads/opnsense-discussions.6943166/

 

[xiaofan]

Please loan me your be805. Let me try 2x Be805 Easymesh with my Oppo Find X8 pro. If good, I will sell away my Asus GT6

Before that I will try out Archer BE805 + HB710 to see if EasyMesh Wireless Backhaul works fine or not.

Just tried out TP-Link EasyMesh using Archer BE805 (main router) + HB710 (mesh node).

1. Setup procedure
I did not follow the guide from TP-Link here.
https://www.tp-link.com/sg/support/faq/3581/

Rather I followed the method mentioned by @tsammyc previously.
1) Factory reset the HB710, then connect HB710 LAN port (not WAN port) to the Archer BE805 LAN port, wait for EasyMesh to finish the setup.

2) Then remove the Ethernet cable, reboot the HB710. In this case, it will be using wireless backhaul. Somehow only 5GHz band is used as the wireless backhaul.

2.4GHz and 5GHz SSID and password of the main Archer BE805 router will be replicated to the HB710 mesh node.

3) Or connect the Etherner cable between HB710 WAN port to the Archer BE805 LAN port, then it will be using Ethernet backhaul.

2. SpeedTest for the HB710 LAN client.

1) SpeedTest results using Ethernet Backhaul is good. I am using Singtel 5Gbps plan.

Laptop is Acer Swift 3 early 2021 model, with XIkeStor USB4/TB4 to 10G network adapter, connected to the 10G LAN port of HB710.

PS C:\work\speedtest\ookla-speedtest-1.2.0-win64> .\speedtest.exe -s 13623

   Speedtest by Ookla

      Server: Singtel - Singapore (id: 13623)
         ISP: Singtel Fibre
Idle Latency:     3.16 ms   (jitter: 0.58ms, low: 2.79ms, high: 4.58ms)
    Download:  4822.49 Mbps (data used: 2.2 GB)
                  2.41 ms   (jitter: 19.67ms, low: 1.58ms, high: 223.81ms)
      Upload:  4978.25 Mbps (data used: 2.4 GB)
                  7.12 ms   (jitter: 0.56ms, low: 3.48ms, high: 8.42ms)
 Packet Loss:     0.0%
  Result URL: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/51ff68b5-2b92-4d8a-9018-a407d8b4772a

I also used the cheaper Wavelink USB 3 Type C to 5Gbe adapter. Result is also good.

PS C:\work\speedtest\ookla-speedtest-1.2.0-win64> .\speedtest.exe -s 13623

   Speedtest by Ookla

      Server: Singtel - Singapore (id: 13623)
         ISP: Singtel Fibre
Idle Latency:     3.23 ms   (jitter: 0.69ms, low: 2.90ms, high: 4.48ms)
    Download:  4617.89 Mbps (data used: 3.3 GB)
                 10.76 ms   (jitter: 13.86ms, low: 3.63ms, high: 243.85ms)
      Upload:  4669.31 Mbps (data used: 2.6 GB)
                  6.75 ms   (jitter: 0.91ms, low: 3.25ms, high: 20.05ms)
 Packet Loss:     0.0%
  Result URL: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/e95067ee-da9f-492e-b262-313c0988d586

2) SpeedTest results using Wireless Backhaul is so-so, not as high as what I would expect. The distance between the HB710 mesh node and the main Archer BE805 router is about 4m. I am using Singtel 5Gbps plan.

PS C:\work\speedtest\ookla-speedtest-1.2.0-win64> .\speedtest.exe -s 13623

   Speedtest by Ookla

      Server: Singtel - Singapore (id: 13623)
         ISP: Singtel Fibre
Idle Latency:     3.31 ms   (jitter: 1.00ms, low: 3.05ms, high: 6.17ms)
    Download:  2204.27 Mbps (data used: 3.8 GB)
                 12.87 ms   (jitter: 11.86ms, low: 3.50ms, high: 372.62ms)
      Upload:  1254.28 Mbps (data used: 757.5 MB)
                 20.17 ms   (jitter: 7.90ms, low: 6.43ms, high: 246.58ms)
 Packet Loss:     0.0%
  Result URL: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/c017a45e-29b4-47b3-a45b-8b1d73a19a8d

I also used the cheaper Wavelink USB 3 Type C to 5Gbe adapter. Result is similar.

PS C:\work\speedtest\ookla-speedtest-1.2.0-win64> .\speedtest.exe -s 13623

   Speedtest by Ookla

      Server: Singtel - Singapore (id: 13623)
         ISP: Singtel Fibre
Idle Latency:     3.74 ms   (jitter: 0.62ms, low: 3.44ms, high: 5.50ms)
    Download:  1978.64 Mbps (data used: 2.3 GB)
                 14.45 ms   (jitter: 6.38ms, low: 4.06ms, high: 33.06ms)
      Upload:  1250.40 Mbps (data used: 1.3 GB)
                 11.54 ms   (jitter: 9.33ms, low: 4.00ms, high: 240.93ms)
 Packet Loss:     0.0%
  Result URL: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/1efd6949-5734-49dd-98cc-b5065ada4144

 

[xiaofan]

There are some limitations with TP-Link EasyMesh as of now. But TP-Link seems to improve EasyMesh continuously. Let's wait for future updates.

1) As per TP-Link Forum, MLO will only work on the main router and not on the EasyMesh mesh node.
https://community.tp-link.com/en/home/forum/topic/664506

From TP-Link support staff.
Hi, thanks for your inquiry. Till now the MLO network only functions on the main router if you set up 2 Wi-Fi 7 routers as easymesh network. We will pass your feedback to the product development team.

2) There is another major limitation of TP-Link EasyMesh as well for Guest/IoT Network.
https://www.tp-link.com/sg/support/faq/3529/

Q13. Does TP-Link EasyMesh system support syncing Guest or IoT Network settings across the main router and satellite nodes?

A. Currently, the TP-Link EasyMesh system does not synchronize the Guest network or IoT Network settings across the main router and the connected satellite nodes. The EasyMesh satellite nodes will only sync the main wireless network settings.

We will address this in future updates to improve the overall configuration and management experience of the TP-Link EasyMesh system. Any updates will be communicated through our official channels.

 

[xiaofan]

Continue with the test using wireless backhaul.

TP-Link Archer BE805 -- 5GHz backhaul --> TP-Link HB710 -- wireless --> Wireless clients of HB710

3. SpeedTest for the HB710 WiFi 6 client, next to the HB710 (50cm away).

WiFi 6 client --> Acer Swift 3 laptop early 2021 model, with Intel AX201 WiFi 6 adapter.

1) HB710 MLO SSID --> effectively only the 5GHz band is used. Take note 5GHz band is also used as backhaul.

PS C:\work\speedtest\ookla-speedtest-1.2.0-win64> .\speedtest.exe -s 13623

   Speedtest by Ookla

      Server: Singtel - Singapore (id: 13623)
         ISP: Singtel Fibre
Idle Latency:     5.43 ms   (jitter: 0.99ms, low: 4.95ms, high: 7.26ms)
    Download:   611.09 Mbps (data used: 880.1 MB)
                 28.60 ms   (jitter: 18.82ms, low: 6.66ms, high: 149.76ms)
      Upload:   509.18 Mbps (data used: 906.6 MB)
                 38.33 ms   (jitter: 27.84ms, low: 8.72ms, high: 393.45ms)
 Packet Loss:     0.0%
  Result URL: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/c3dd8e79-f6ef-4cc0-8a78-7f2878f8c70c

2) HB710 5GHz SSID (same as the main router 5GHz SSID). Use the HD710 Web UI Network Map to confirm that it is connected to the HB710 and not the main Archer BE805.

PS C:\work\speedtest\ookla-speedtest-1.2.0-win64> .\speedtest.exe -s 13623

   Speedtest by Ookla

      Server: Singtel - Singapore (id: 13623)
         ISP: Singtel Fibre
Idle Latency:     5.25 ms   (jitter: 0.31ms, low: 4.71ms, high: 5.54ms)
    Download:   645.67 Mbps (data used: 358.6 MB)
                 24.79 ms   (jitter: 8.42ms, low: 7.03ms, high: 58.61ms)
      Upload:   438.18 Mbps (data used: 411.7 MB)
                 28.48 ms   (jitter: 24.13ms, low: 6.59ms, high: 296.11ms)
 Packet Loss:     0.0%
  Result URL: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/254c46ae-7375-4d62-b8bf-a4d358b69af0

3) HB710 2.4GHz SSID (same as the main router 5GHz SSID). Use the HD710 Web UI Network Map to confirm that it is connected to the HB710 and not the main Archer BE805.

PS C:\work\speedtest\ookla-speedtest-1.2.0-win64> .\speedtest.exe -s 13623

   Speedtest by Ookla

      Server: Singtel - Singapore (id: 13623)
         ISP: Singtel Fibre
Idle Latency:     6.47 ms   (jitter: 5.95ms, low: 5.81ms, high: 17.92ms)
    Download:   121.48 Mbps (data used: 178.8 MB)
                 46.90 ms   (jitter: 24.80ms, low: 7.39ms, high: 154.42ms)
      Upload:    76.58 Mbps (data used: 122.6 MB)
                639.08 ms   (jitter: 89.68ms, low: 14.94ms, high: 1823.01ms)
 Packet Loss:     0.0%
  Result URL: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/8464d770-364c-420f-9466-998158287a8a

 

[xiaofan]

Continue with the test using wireless backhaul.

TP-Link Archer BE805 -- 5GHz backhaul --> TP-Link HB710 -- wireless --> Wireless clients of HB710

4. SpeedTest for the HB710 WiFi 7 client, next to the HB710 (50cm away).

WiFi 7 client --> Acer Swift Go 14 laptop 2024 model, with Intel BE200 based Killer BE1750 WiFi 7 adapter.

1) wired test first to check the wireless backhaul speed. Using XikeStor USB4/TB4 to 10G NIC.

PS C:\work\speedtest\ookla-speedtest-1.2.0-win64> .\speedtest.exe -s 13623

   Speedtest by Ookla

      Server: Singtel - Singapore (id: 13623)
         ISP: Singtel Fibre
Idle Latency:     3.88 ms   (jitter: 0.62ms, low: 3.68ms, high: 5.48ms)
    Download:  2500.70 Mbps (data used: 4.3 GB)
                 13.09 ms   (jitter: 5.82ms, low: 3.57ms, high: 35.01ms)
      Upload:  1319.84 Mbps (data used: 1.2 GB)
                 18.71 ms   (jitter: 3.42ms, low: 8.25ms, high: 31.22ms)
 Packet Loss:     0.0%
  Result URL: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/0a001dc1-8ac7-4e0c-91fd-5cb0ed10f124

2) HB710 6GHz SSID --> this speed is quite close to the wired speed.

PS C:\work\speedtest\ookla-speedtest-1.2.0-win64> .\speedtest.exe -s 13623

   Speedtest by Ookla

      Server: Singtel - Singapore (id: 13623)
         ISP: Singtel Fibre
Idle Latency:     6.40 ms   (jitter: 2.00ms, low: 4.85ms, high: 9.18ms)
    Download:  2015.74 Mbps (data used: 3.4 GB)
                 21.90 ms   (jitter: 9.03ms, low: 6.21ms, high: 234.36ms)
      Upload:  1141.23 Mbps (data used: 1.9 GB)
                 14.40 ms   (jitter: 14.04ms, low: 4.02ms, high: 334.45ms)
 Packet Loss:     0.0%
  Result URL: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/477eb7ec-da69-4521-b343-31c5ac1bac23

3) HB710 MLO SSID --> this speed is quite close to the wired speed.

PS C:\work\speedtest\ookla-speedtest-1.2.0-win64> .\speedtest.exe -s 13623

   Speedtest by Ookla

      Server: Singtel - Singapore (id: 13623)
         ISP: Singtel Fibre
Idle Latency:     6.92 ms   (jitter: 0.92ms, low: 5.99ms, high: 8.09ms)
    Download:  2139.76 Mbps (data used: 2.4 GB)
                 23.77 ms   (jitter: 7.59ms, low: 6.49ms, high: 46.49ms)
      Upload:  1326.69 Mbps (data used: 1.4 GB)
                 22.53 ms   (jitter: 3.04ms, low: 8.72ms, high: 31.07ms)
 Packet Loss:     0.0%
  Result URL: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/3aac3feb-6455-4ce6-8a1e-355ceff33411

4) HB710 5GHz SSID, (same as the main router 5GHz SSID). Use the HD710 Web UI Network Map to confirm that it is connected to the HB710 and not the main Archer BE805. Take note 5GHz band is also used as the wireless backhaul.

PS C:\work\speedtest\ookla-speedtest-1.2.0-win64> .\speedtest.exe -s 13623

   Speedtest by Ookla

      Server: Singtel - Singapore (id: 13623)
         ISP: Singtel Fibre
Idle Latency:     5.03 ms   (jitter: 0.28ms, low: 4.79ms, high: 5.29ms)
    Download:   665.37 Mbps (data used: 420.4 MB)
                 24.75 ms   (jitter: 9.13ms, low: 7.71ms, high: 44.28ms)
      Upload:   672.02 Mbps (data used: 752.4 MB)
                 18.87 ms   (jitter: 8.31ms, low: 5.48ms, high: 251.58ms)
 Packet Loss:     0.0%
  Result URL: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/aec720df-e1a4-486d-889f-bb4e1e13c8c7

5) HB710 2.4GHz SSID, (same as the main router 2.4GHz SSID). Use the HD710 Web UI Network Map to confirm that it is connected to the HB710 and not the main Archer BE805.

PS C:\work\speedtest\ookla-speedtest-1.2.0-win64> .\speedtest.exe -s 13623

   Speedtest by Ookla

      Server: Singtel - Singapore (id: 13623)
         ISP: Singtel Fibre
Idle Latency:    12.73 ms   (jitter: 10.86ms, low: 6.20ms, high: 37.63ms)
    Download:   169.99 Mbps (data used: 233.9 MB)
                 41.84 ms   (jitter: 17.61ms, low: 6.49ms, high: 79.78ms)
      Upload:   153.61 Mbps (data used: 171.3 MB)
                 85.57 ms   (jitter: 29.35ms, low: 9.46ms, high: 453.79ms)
 Packet Loss:     0.0%
  Result URL: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/7bd28488-42b6-4897-b1c4-f529188292df

 

[xiaofan]

My HB710 Coverage Test done previously.
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/threads/starhub-ultraspeed-5gbps-plan-launched.7024290/page-152
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/threads/starhub-ultraspeed-5gbps-plan-launched.7024290/page-155

Indeed. My quick test shows the coverage is not as good as my Asus RT-AX86U and Asus TUF-BE6500, but still decent. This is kind of expected.

I will carry out more coverage related tests over the weekend to compare with Asus RT-AX86U and Asus TUF-BE6500.

6GHz coverage may not be good -- so I tested 5GHz coverage using my older Acer Swift 3 laptop early 2021 model (Intel Core i5-1135G7 CPU, 16GB/512GB) with Intel AX201 WiFi 6 adpater in this quick test.

TP-Link HB710 router in the living room.

3m away in the living room, strong signal on the 5GHz band

6m away with one thick wall in between, common toilet, still quite good signal on the 5GHz band.

This is an 1998 HDB flat so the walls are thick and can block WiFi signals quite effectively.

8m away with two walls in between the laptop and the router, weak signal on the 5GHz band. The results are not as good as the two Asus routers.

HB710 router, Acer Swift Go 14 2024 model (Intel Core Ultra 5 125H CPU, 16GB, 1TB, Killer BE1750 WiFi 7 adpater based on Intel BE200 chipset).

8m away with two walls in between the laptop and the router, weak signal on the 5GHz/6GHz band.

5GHz vs 6GHz vs 5GHz+6GHz MLO at far range ==> all speed data are not good. 5GHz is actually the worst, probably due to more interferences from neighbours in that area (service yard, on top of the washing machine).

2.4GHz/5GHz SSID --> connected to 5GHz band

MLO SSID, 5GHz+6GHz MLO

6GHz SSID

Asus RT-AX86U router, Acer Swift Go 14 2024 model (Intel Core Ultra 5 125H CPU, 16GB, 1TB, Killer BE1750 WiFi 7 adpater based on Intel BE200 chipset).

8m away with two walls in between the laptop and the router, weak signal on the 5GHz/2.4GHz band.

I consider 2.4GHz to be useless for main devices like laptop or mobile phone myself. For me 2.4GHz band is only for legacy devices or IoT devices (but I am not into IoT devices myself).

5GHz SSID

2.4GHz SSID

 

[xiaofan]

Floor plan for reference: 1998 4-room HDB flat, 106 sqm

Router --> RT-AX86U
Router 2 --> HB710 in the above coverage test. Point A is the difficult spot with weak signal since there are two walls between the router and the test device.

Test device: Acer Swift Go 14 2024 model (Intel Core Ultra 5 125H CPU, 16GB, 1TB, Killer BE1750 WiFi 7 adpater based on Intel BE200 chipset).

Test results using TP-Link Archer BE805 (RT-AX86U is still there) vs RT-AX86U (HB710 is now OFF).

Looks like Archer BE805 5GHz band coverage is similar to RT-AX86U, better than HB710.

Archer BE805 5GHz SSID

PS C:\work\speedtest\ookla-speedtest-1.2.0-win64> .\speedtest.exe -s 13623

   Speedtest by Ookla

      Server: Singtel - Singapore (id: 13623)
         ISP: Singtel Fibre
Idle Latency:     3.77 ms   (jitter: 0.24ms, low: 3.56ms, high: 4.54ms)
    Download:   162.97 Mbps (data used: 208.2 MB)
                 44.49 ms   (jitter: 37.76ms, low: 3.84ms, high: 553.06ms)
      Upload:    81.45 Mbps (data used: 112.9 MB)
                438.51 ms   (jitter: 97.18ms, low: 8.07ms, high: 892.35ms)
 Packet Loss:     0.0%
  Result URL: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/ca37df21-bbc9-4910-ba3f-668b7e677da9

RT-AX86U 5GHz SSID (today's result a bit worse than previous test).

PS C:\work\speedtest\ookla-speedtest-1.2.0-win64> .\speedtest.exe -s 13623

   Speedtest by Ookla

      Server: Singtel - Singapore (id: 13623)
         ISP: Singtel Fibre
Idle Latency:     5.01 ms   (jitter: 1.17ms, low: 4.15ms, high: 7.66ms)
    Download:   167.47 Mbps (data used: 232.9 MB)
                 43.21 ms   (jitter: 34.68ms, low: 7.54ms, high: 320.71ms)
      Upload:    19.12 Mbps (data used: 34.0 MB)
                141.69 ms   (jitter: 48.75ms, low: 10.37ms, high: 594.05ms)
 Packet Loss:     0.0%
  Result URL: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/8d17b3b6-6916-4ba9-a837-c4c7017f5398

Archer BE805 6GHz SSID -- today it is quite bad, almost no signal. Unstable as well -- sometimes no connection.

PS C:\work\speedtest\ookla-speedtest-1.2.0-win64> .\speedtest.exe -s 13623

   Speedtest by Ookla

      Server: Singtel - Singapore (id: 13623)
         ISP: Singtel Fibre
Idle Latency:     4.41 ms   (jitter: 49.58ms, low: 3.35ms, high: 103.19ms)
    Download:     6.27 Mbps (data used: 12.2 MB)
                109.98 ms   (jitter: 75.75ms, low: 3.42ms, high: 1167.06ms)
      Upload:    30.64 Mbps (data used: 50.1 MB)
                226.46 ms   (jitter: 74.65ms, low: 9.36ms, high: 1276.48ms)
 Packet Loss:     0.0%
  Result URL: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/11c52e4b-c028-4a14-96e3-089f4b84be3f

Archer BE805 MLO SSID -- somehow it is using 2.4GHz+6GHz and not 2.4GHz+5GHz.

PS C:\work\speedtest\ookla-speedtest-1.2.0-win64> .\speedtest.exe -s 13623

   Speedtest by Ookla

      Server: Singtel - Singapore (id: 13623)
         ISP: Singtel Fibre
Idle Latency:     4.46 ms   (jitter: 2.60ms, low: 4.17ms, high: 13.88ms)
    Download:    50.15 Mbps (data used: 77.0 MB)
                 56.10 ms   (jitter: 46.58ms, low: 5.28ms, high: 1063.74ms)
      Upload:     8.15 Mbps (data used: 14.0 MB)
                118.28 ms   (jitter: 52.46ms, low: 8.93ms, high: 849.64ms)
 Packet Loss:     0.0%
  Result URL: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/30d71d8e-79b3-425a-85ba-47bbc34895b6

Archer BE805 2.4GHz SSID.

PS C:\work\speedtest\ookla-speedtest-1.2.0-win64> .\speedtest.exe -s 13623

   Speedtest by Ookla

      Server: Singtel - Singapore (id: 13623)
         ISP: Singtel Fibre
Idle Latency:    12.37 ms   (jitter: 15.89ms, low: 3.94ms, high: 48.03ms)
    Download:    46.30 Mbps (data used: 73.7 MB)
                 91.10 ms   (jitter: 56.38ms, low: 3.99ms, high: 994.03ms)
      Upload:     6.81 Mbps (data used: 8.9 MB)
                198.12 ms   (jitter: 61.10ms, low: 10.01ms, high: 828.73ms)
 Packet Loss:     0.0%
  Result URL: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/383eaa0b-a0c1-422a-9c81-5c1b20456402

 

[xiaofan]

One more round of 2.4GHz + 6GHz MLO SSID vs 6GHz SSID vs 2.4GHz SSID, in the Point A weak signal area.

All three results are not good. Much worse than 5GHz SSID. This is probably due to my specific case where 6GHz has low penetration power and 2.4GHz has too many interferences.

1) 2.4GHz + 6GHz SSID

PS C:\work\speedtest\ookla-speedtest-1.2.0-win64> .\speedtest.exe -s 13623

   Speedtest by Ookla

      Server: Singtel - Singapore (id: 13623)
         ISP: Singtel Fibre
Idle Latency:    14.33 ms   (jitter: 8.41ms, low: 4.80ms, high: 18.61ms)
    Download:    75.12 Mbps (data used: 111.5 MB)
                 76.57 ms   (jitter: 46.01ms, low: 4.25ms, high: 329.46ms)
      Upload:     8.42 Mbps (data used: 13.8 MB)
                179.70 ms   (jitter: 63.19ms, low: 21.11ms, high: 1789.40ms)
 Packet Loss:     0.0%
  Result URL: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/e7458d49-d9a7-4c62-ab19-1cb1486b91de

2) 6GHz SSID

PS C:\work\speedtest\ookla-speedtest-1.2.0-win64> .\speedtest.exe -s 13623

   Speedtest by Ookla

      Server: Singtel - Singapore (id: 13623)
         ISP: Singtel Fibre
Idle Latency:     4.04 ms   (jitter: 1.07ms, low: 3.50ms, high: 5.94ms)
    Download:    29.30 Mbps (data used: 42.9 MB)
                101.97 ms   (jitter: 60.22ms, low: 4.37ms, high: 778.87ms)
      Upload:    45.58 Mbps (data used: 77.1 MB)
                129.66 ms   (jitter: 53.44ms, low: 9.31ms, high: 952.69ms)
 Packet Loss:     0.0%
  Result URL: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/ddd3f2c9-d01f-4ec8-9c03-933d6529b3dd

3) 2.4GHz SSID

PS C:\work\speedtest\ookla-speedtest-1.2.0-win64> .\speedtest.exe -s 13623

   Speedtest by Ookla

      Server: Singtel - Singapore (id: 13623)
         ISP: Singtel Fibre
Idle Latency:     4.66 ms   (jitter: 0.32ms, low: 4.41ms, high: 5.06ms)
    Download:    45.88 Mbps (data used: 68.9 MB)
                 63.89 ms   (jitter: 40.68ms, low: 4.73ms, high: 321.26ms)
      Upload:     5.66 Mbps (data used: 6.8 MB)
                640.91 ms   (jitter: 111.90ms, low: 17.64ms, high: 2653.55ms)
 Packet Loss:     0.0%
  Result URL: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/36510257-0aca-4cd0-bc48-1445511c2c5d

 

[xiaofan]

Interestingly my Intel BE200 based Killer BE1750 WiFi 7 adapter will only go with 2.4GHz + 6GHz for the MLO when all three bands are enabled for MLO (default).

If I uncheck 2.4GHz, then it will use 5GHz+6GHz MLO.

 

[xiaofan]

3m distance from the Acer Swift Go 14 2024 laptop (Core Ultra 5 125H CPU, Intel BE200 chipset based Killer BE1750 WiFi 7 adapter) to Archer BE805.

Tonight I could not get 5764Mbps PHY connection speed at 3m distance. But the 3m speed is actually very fast.

I notice 5GHz+6GHz MLO seems to have lower upload speed, no idea why. It happens sometimes for 2.4GHz+MLO SSID as well. It may have to do with Double NAT situation I have.

Main OpenWRT router (dual 10G SFP+ ports) -->10G/2.5G switch with one SFP+ port and one 10G RJ45 port and quad 2.5G RJ45 ports --> TP-Link Archer BE805 in router mode (Double NAT).

1) 2.4GHz + 6GHz MLO is very fast tonight (7:45pm, 2025 Chinese New Year eve). PHY connection is only 4803 Mbps.

PS C:\work\speedtest\ookla-speedtest-1.2.0-win64> .\speedtest.exe -s 13623

   Speedtest by Ookla

      Server: Singtel - Singapore (id: 13623)
         ISP: Singtel Fibre
Idle Latency:     3.85 ms   (jitter: 0.43ms, low: 3.39ms, high: 4.16ms)
    Download:  3108.63 Mbps (data used: 4.1 GB)
                 13.49 ms   (jitter: 6.36ms, low: 2.44ms, high: 86.08ms)
      Upload:  2281.84 Mbps (data used: 3.7 GB)
                 17.40 ms   (jitter: 10.83ms, low: 4.09ms, high: 97.04ms)
 Packet Loss:     0.0%
  Result URL: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/c26a7a03-05a1-4550-8967-81ffea39d0ce

2) 5GHz+6GHz SSID (disable 2.4GHz in the MLO setting). PHY connection is still 4803 Mbps.

PS C:\work\speedtest\ookla-speedtest-1.2.0-win64> .\speedtest.exe -s 13623

   Speedtest by Ookla

      Server: Singtel - Singapore (id: 13623)
         ISP: Singtel Fibre
Idle Latency:     3.22 ms   (jitter: 0.41ms, low: 2.82ms, high: 4.02ms)
    Download:  2992.11 Mbps (data used: 5.3 GB)
                 11.95 ms   (jitter: 5.18ms, low: 3.25ms, high: 31.32ms)
      Upload:  1367.98 Mbps (data used: 669.7 MB)
                 21.42 ms   (jitter: 2.24ms, low: 3.29ms, high: 27.00ms)
 Packet Loss:     0.0%
  Result URL: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/4ba8fa3e-eaa8-4225-8ade-236a2b32f6fd

3) 6GHz SSID: it is also fast but a bit slower than the 2.4GHz+6GHz SSID. PHY connection speed is still 4803Mbps.

PS C:\work\speedtest\ookla-speedtest-1.2.0-win64> .\speedtest.exe -s 13623

   Speedtest by Ookla

      Server: Singtel - Singapore (id: 13623)
         ISP: Singtel Fibre
Idle Latency:     3.29 ms   (jitter: 0.36ms, low: 3.11ms, high: 3.74ms)
    Download:  2802.93 Mbps (data used: 5.0 GB)
                 12.95 ms   (jitter: 5.73ms, low: 4.23ms, high: 36.05ms)
      Upload:  1832.09 Mbps (data used: 3.0 GB)
                 18.30 ms   (jitter: 15.79ms, low: 6.02ms, high: 170.99ms)
 Packet Loss:     0.0%
  Result URL: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/a7eae226-4ba6-4689-a62b-5c864b2e5762

 

[xiaofan]

Other than the wireless mesh limitations (only 5GHz used as the backhaul), so far I only encounter one issue with TP-Link Archer BE805 in single router mode, from yesteday to today with all the testings.

Somehow 6GHz SSID disappeared and I have to reboot the router to get it back. Strange. This happened once in all my testings. I will need to monitor.

FW already upgraded to latest version.
Firmware Version: 1.0.12 Build 20240819 rel.66201(5347)
Hardware Version: Archer BE805 v1.0

 

[Jurong640]

Other than the wireless mesh limitations (only 5GHz used as the backhaul), so far I only encounter one issue with TP-Link Archer BE805 in single router mode, from yesteday to today with all the testings.

Somehow 6GHz SSID disappeared and I have to reboot the router to get it back. Strange. This happened once in all my testings. I will need to monitor.

FW already upgraded to latest version.
Firmware Version: 1.0.12 Build 20240819 rel.66201(5347)
Hardware Version: Archer BE805 v1.0

same issue, my 6ghz is not always readily available. I have to turn off WiFi on my phone and on a few times to detect 6ghz. It seems like its not always on and broadcasting

 

[xiaofan]

IPv6 passthrough seems to work fine for Windows clients.

Singtel ONR bridged 10G LAN port --> Main OpenWRT router (Singtel native IPv6) -->10G/2.5G switch with one SFP+ port and one 10G RJ45 port and quad 2.5G RJ45 ports --> TP-Link Archer BE805 in router mode (Double NAT, IPv6 passthrough).

Wireless clients of Archer BE805 got proper IPv6 address and can pass IPv6 tests from https://test-ipv6.com/.

 

[pangkh]

Other than the wireless mesh limitations (only 5GHz used as the backhaul), so far I only encounter one issue with TP-Link Archer BE805 in single router mode, from yesteday to today with all the testings.

Somehow 6GHz SSID disappeared and I have to reboot the router to get it back. Strange. This happened once in all my testings. I will need to monitor.

FW already upgraded to latest version.
Firmware Version: 1.0.12 Build 20240819 rel.66201(5347)
Hardware Version: Archer BE805 v1.0

There is a newer firmware version which is weirdly only available on their forum. 1.1.x series instead of 1.0.x series.

Quite a few fixes. Improved my speed a little
But can't downgrade once installed.

h_ttps://community.tp-link.com/en/home/forum/topic/719948

 

[jasonho]

Thanks @xiaofan , you just saved me another $300-350

I guess the only routers that can do ML0 mesh is Asus -

You can watch from 3.30 min onwards.
Mac Mini —wired—> BT10 )))))) wireless mesh (((((( BT10 ——> internet

Mac Mini can achieve 5gbps which means the MLO mesh is working well!

 

[xiaofan]

There is a newer firmware version which is weirdly only available on their forum. 1.1.x series instead of 1.0.x series.

Quite a few fixes. Improved my speed a little
But can't downgrade once installed.

h_ttps://community.tp-link.com/en/home/forum/topic/719948

Nice. Thanks for the help. Just upgraded to Version 1.1.2 and later I will test whethr 6GHz backhaul works or not with Archer BE805 + HB710.

https://community.tp-link.com/en/home/forum/topic/719948

Updated on Dec 18, 2024:​

The official version 1.1.2 has been gradually released. This latest version includes all previous modifications and improvements from the pre-release 1.1.0 version. It also includes additional bug fixes as follows:​

1.Fixed the issue that the VPN client might lose internet when connected to NordVPN.​

2.Enhanced MLO compatibility.​

3.Optimized system stability.​

​

Users can check for updates on the BE805's web interface or through the Tether App and install the latest version manually.​

If you can't find version 1.1.2, please download the firmware from the direct link at the end of this article and upgrade manually.​

​

Modifications and Improvements for 1.1.0 version​

• Enhanced the compatibility with the NTT ISP.
• Newly added HomeShield function in V6plus dial-up.
• Newly added VPN Client and Server function in V6plus dial-up.
• Newly added IPOE dialing function and adjusted some dialing order.
• Newly added webpage management for the EasyMesh Satellite mode.
• Newly added the EasyMesh Topology map on the EasyMesh function page.
• Newly supported to work as EasyMesh controller in AP mode.
• Newly supported 6GHz EasyMesh backhaul.
• Newly supported WiFi schedule for different wireless frequencies.
• Newly supported ECO mode to save power.
• Newly supported DoH & DoT function.
• Newly supported multiple selections in the Access Control Allow list function.
• Newly supported third-party VPN built-in function to simplify the configuration process.
• Newly supported Tap mode in OpenVPN server function.
• Newly updated the PPTP/L2TP/IPsec VPN server IP range to the same as the LAN IP range.
• Fixed the issue that tplinkwifi.net might fail to reach the router.
• Optimized the USB performance.
• Enhanced VPN performance.
• Enhanced system stability.

Note: Once upgrade to the 1.1.0/1.1.2 version, you cannot downgrade back to the 1.0.x firmware.