[GE2025] Extensive changes to electoral boundaries due to population shifts; only 5 GRCs, 4 SMCs left intact

boredom2012

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Personally feel that Proportional representation is the way to go moving forward, or not a 2-parties system where they take turns rotating being power is also worth considering.
By no means are they perfect but the current one-party dominant system needs to go left I feel.

Our current policies are practically due to ruling incumbents have the power to pass through any bills they want via their seats representation.

The current expensive healthcare system, COE, trade deals, transportation issues due to 10 million population, and also the large number of MPs + 5 Mayors, etc. being funded by taxpayer money is practically due to the current political system we have now.
Would a Rotating or Two-Party System Work in Singapore?

Challenges for a Two-Party System: The dominant role of the PAP, combined with structural advantages and limited space for opposition media coverage, makes it difficult for a strong second party to emerge.

Potential for a Rotating System: For rotation to occur, opposition parties would need to develop stronger grassroots support, broaden their policy platforms, and overcome electoral system barriers.

All these must be overcome first. Pap will never let go of media or grassroot support with this election border.
 

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Would a Rotating or Two-Party System Work in Singapore?

Challenges for a Two-Party System: The dominant role of the PAP, combined with structural advantages and limited space for opposition media coverage, makes it difficult for a strong second party to emerge.

Potential for a Rotating System: For rotation to occur, opposition parties would need to develop stronger grassroots support, broaden their policy platforms, and overcome electoral system barriers.

All these must be overcome first. Pap will never let go of media or grassroot support with this election border.

I am seeing WP being the most likely to be the second party. They already have 10 real elected seats, eventually they will have the capacity to form a shadow cabinet.

Pap will still continue to deteriorate, esp after the current 3G like LHL, Neh, TTT, shan, VB etc are gone. New citizens, after being pro pap for a few elections, will start to also feel the same disaffection as local singkies, and if they have numbers, they might start to form their own parties. (Already in 2015 there was a new citizen tried to contest as a independent, although now we can laugh at his low votes, if they have the numbers it might be a different story)

It will take a very long time to happen though.
 

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Actually if you put in good candidates, can worth a try.

Look at Marine Parade GRC, after GCT stepped down the GRC is not safe throughout the GEs. Moreover Jurong GRC has never faced good opposition that contested so if PSP tries we won't know
 

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I am seeing WP being the most likely to be the second party. They already have 10 real elected seats, eventually they will have the capacity to form a shadow cabinet.

Pap will still continue to deteriorate, esp after the current 3G like LHL, Neh, TTT, shan, VB etc are gone. New citizens, after being pro pap for a few elections, will start to also feel the same disaffection as local singkies, and if they have numbers, they might start to form their own parties. (Already in 2015 there was a new citizen tried to contest as a independent, although now we can laugh at his low votes, if they have the numbers it might be a different story)

It will take a very long time to happen though.
Think no one can last for ever. Especially a system that seems sort of has shadow of the old dynastic system, has a single party to rule it all and very dependent on the top leader ability. The leader cannot live forever so will the party when the leadership no more.

That's why think the FPTP system tend lead to a two parties system. When one decline, the other step up. And vice versa. And currently local seems to be seeing that sign already. And think incumbent sort of mentioned that also, that it will not be in power forever. That's the nature of the system. Comes with it.

But perhaps one thing is more for sure. Of the two parties, one of them will more or less be incumbent bah. Think that's what incumbent want to make sure of also, even if its cannot hold on to it. It will only share with one other dominant. Think the process currently has is also to sieve out that one potential.

Unless the people can and will want to change the system or improved on it.
 

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Actually if you put in good candidates, can worth a try.

Look at Marine Parade GRC, after GCT stepped down the GRC is not safe throughout the GEs. Moreover Jurong GRC has never faced good opposition that contested so if PSP tries we won't know
Jus like WC GRC in the past they didn't have good opp parties and candidates.
 

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Think no one can last for ever. Especially a system that seems sort of has shadow of the old dynastic system, has a single party to rule it all and very dependent on the top leader ability. The leader cannot live forever so will the party when the leadership no more.

That's why think the FPTP system tend lead to a two parties system. When one decline, the other step up. And vice versa. And currently local seems to be seeing that sign already. And think incumbent sort of mentioned that also, that it will not be in power forever. That's the nature of the system. Comes with it.

But perhaps one thing is more for sure. Of the two parties, one of them will more or less be incumbent bah. Think that's what incumbent want to make sure of also, even if its cannot hold on to it. It will only share with one other dominant. Think the process currently has is also to sieve out that one potential.

Unless the people can and will want to change the system or improved on it.

Unlikely to have any drastic change this election or the next.
 

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Unlikely to have any drastic change this election or the next.
Think want any change in that system aspect also have to be the ruling first. Then can dictate what is what. Or the people band together force the ruling to change it regardless. Currently not at that stage yet. Challenger not strong enough and people not united enough for such.
 

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PAP can rely on rich individuals to make huge donation, but opposition party can rely on many individuals to donate to them.. 积少成多 - If a million make $1 donation to opposition, opposition would have $1m of fund.

And that's what I did, a small donation to WP. Perhaps I'll make donation to PSP as well. :)
Based on 2020 GE, you can see how much arsenal each political party has.

PAP spent S$6.97m, making it the biggest spender of all the political parties.

PSP spent S$781,275.

WP spent S$705,647.

SDP spent S$323,292.

The rest of the parties were not worth mentioning.

Look at how poor are opposition parties. Even with public and member donations, it won't reach a million or higher. No Singapore billionaires or millionaires will support opposition because they have nothing to gain.

Politics are all about money. No money, no honey. Do not expect any major change in Singapore political landscape until the chosen one appears.
 
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