Market continues to crash

sg-united

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Bottom is in already but i think stocks wont be hitting all time high and stagnate at this 5400 - 5600 area till triaff is zero or gone. The outperforming asset will be crypto and gold this year for stagflation. Dont miss out.
Those who bought during the last 2-3 days huat to the moon.

Saw some people said " have to jump down"..... what a joke.
 

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lmao the only reason y china is still holding usa n eu treasuries is because that is the only stable high interest bearing asset they have. they have snowballed their debts CDO these reserves to > 300% of their gdp to build infrastructure that cant get back $$$$ from. dumping all at one time before internal debt resolved is harakiri. their companies operating on low margin, high on debts, tax revenue low, now their ongoing way to finance their budget is through exports surplus if thats gone really gg
China starts the ball rolling, and those on her side will also start selling.

You may think that 1T is too small to cause any impact, it may not be always the case especially when people are panicky.
 

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Obviously the US is not match for CCP given that the US has been sleeping for decades.

The US is no longer no 1. The real boss is China now which the US has to accept it eventually.

I think so. Still, we have the Japanese to thank today and China has not even make any move at all.
 

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Problem is people listen to trader’s advice more often than not.

How to identify trader? Check is they say this:

Market down I make money.
Market up I make money.
One more: market not moving an options trader can also make money (theta decay)
 

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You know what's the other sad fact?

Everyone was too eager to pull the trigger to jump in - it was evidenced by Monday's false rally and last night.

However, everyone seems to forget the US economy is still in shambles. And now that Trump backed off from the trade war and JP Morgan even withdrew their expectation that the US will go into recession, that means Fed or Powell won't reduce interest rates liao. We're now back to focusing on US stubborn inflation, .etc.

And with the massive selling, then buying of treasury yields (especially the 10-year and 30-year), means they locked in on that high yield. Trump just made the future of US more headache with higher debt interest payments. (I honestly feel he screwed up but spin it into a win and said it is part of his negotiation tactic).

Yet, market rally maciam like everything is 100% ok (also short squeeze, of course). But lol.

Today's CPI and tomorrow's PPI should bring reality back to the table :frown:

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recession recession lo
 

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lmao the only reason y china is still holding usa n eu treasuries is because that is the only stable high interest bearing asset they have. they have snowballed their debts CDO these reserves to > 300% of their gdp to build infrastructure that cant get back $$$$ from. dumping all at one time before internal debt resolved is harakiri. their companies operating on low margin, high on debts, tax revenue low, now their ongoing way to finance their budget is through exports surplus if thats gone really gg
That's why I said don't push China to the wall. They will drag the US together to die.
 

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Look at the US now. Can they even fight a real military war with China? Totally impossible. Even Pentagon agreed that the US is no match for China. That's why China can be so strong in South China Sea and Straits of Taiwan. Who dares to challenge China military. All acting like a mouse. The world new order has changed after the end of WW2.
 

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Look at the US now. Can they even fight a real military war with China? Totally impossible. Even Pentagon agreed that the US is no match for China. That's why China can be so strong in South China Sea and Straits of Taiwan. Who dares to challenge China military. All acting like a mouse. The world new order has changed after the end of WW2.
Ar.. no war.. peace.
 

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Well ironically china ppl biggest bully is CCP themselves .
I think they didn't even want to buy... But doing it for 'social credit'.

Whenever I see wumaos or those "Chinese profiles" post on social media, or Youtube make nonsensical comments while bragging about China's might (even products like Huawei, BYD, .etc), I doubt it is truly nationalism but they did it, again, for social credit scores.

Don't forget, one of the criteria to increase the score/points is praising CCP or country on social media, doing patriotic acts, .etc.

That's why that Ne Zha 2 movie people always say 'box office! big hit!" I discount it a lot... Those Chinese folks who claimed they watched 5-8 times then post on social media may just be doing it to get social credit points.

FYI, no, not bashing China. China is beautiful and awesome. But they really don't need their people to go to such extent... It doesn't make them look good...
 
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