Anyone looking at Landed?

limck

Master Member
Joined
Jan 1, 2000
Messages
4,627
Reaction score
484
nope, normal tiles. The quality of the build is poor esp the fittings and carpentry works. similar to the quality in billy bookcase from Ikea, that gives you an idea on how cheapo the developer is.
i see all the exposed beams and columns all around i shake head. the developer could have spent a bit more for the contractor to construct the walls with 1.5 or 2 layers of bricks so as to flush the columns and beams into the wall and make things look nicer. this current look is just like old school HDB flats.
 

Ccy2112

Member
Joined
Jul 17, 2023
Messages
316
Reaction score
284
Hi all, a query on landed A&A, appreciate if anyone can advise.

any idea on feasibility of shifting every alternate flight of stairs to accommodate a design that lets the stairs go around the lift? Like the one in the link attached

https://www.livingabode.co/post/beginner-s-guide-to-domestic-home-lift

Overall, Looking at A&A to (1) install lift, (2) create balcony outside master bedroom above car porch and (3) flatten sloped roof and increase size of the attic.

any idea how much I should budget for such works?

thanks!
 

limck

Master Member
Joined
Jan 1, 2000
Messages
4,627
Reaction score
484
Hi all, a query on landed A&A, appreciate if anyone can advise.

any idea on feasibility of shifting every alternate flight of stairs to accommodate a design that lets the stairs go around the lift? Like the one in the link attached

https://www.livingabode.co/post/beginner-s-guide-to-domestic-home-lift

Overall, Looking at A&A to (1) install lift, (2) create balcony outside master bedroom above car porch and (3) flatten sloped roof and increase size of the attic.

any idea how much I should budget for such works?

thanks!
You need to consult a PE with your existing building plans and see the feasibility. Cos this involves major hacking of the floor slabs to open up the space and PE need to see how the new stairs can be tied back to the existing building structure.
The wrap around design isn’t the most space efficient and you may end up loosing more space. A standard lift core for traction lift is normally about 1.5m x 1.5m internally. Add in the allowance for the shaft you’re looking at about 1.7m x 1.7m footprint. Your stairs need to be minimum 1m wide based on requirements. Meaning if you have the stairs behind the lift shaft, it will take up about 2.7m of space from the party wall. An inter-terrace is usually about 6m wide based on boundary lines. So with your lift and stairs designed in this manner, half the width of the house will be taken up by the stairs and lift.
Not sure how much all your planned works will cost but the lift and shaft should cost you around 100k. So in all maybe budget at least 300k and up for the works
 

Ccy2112

Member
Joined
Jul 17, 2023
Messages
316
Reaction score
284
You need to consult a PE with your existing building plans and see the feasibility. Cos this involves major hacking of the floor slabs to open up the space and PE need to see how the new stairs can be tied back to the existing building structure.
The wrap around design isn’t the most space efficient and you may end up loosing more space. A standard lift core for traction lift is normally about 1.5m x 1.5m internally. Add in the allowance for the shaft you’re looking at about 1.7m x 1.7m footprint. Your stairs need to be minimum 1m wide based on requirements. Meaning if you have the stairs behind the lift shaft, it will take up about 2.7m of space from the party wall. An inter-terrace is usually about 6m wide based on boundary lines. So with your lift and stairs designed in this manner, half the width of the house will be taken up by the stairs and lift.
Not sure how much all your planned works will cost but the lift and shaft should cost you around 100k. So in all maybe budget at least 300k and up for the works
Thanks for the advice boss. Appreciate it
 

rlskyline

Master Member
Joined
May 21, 2012
Messages
4,090
Reaction score
1,078
does anybody know why 66 lucky heights which is a freehold detached with land size of 4365 sq ft and 3 storey sold so cheap at 3.75 million only?
very puzzling.
 

limck

Master Member
Joined
Jan 1, 2000
Messages
4,627
Reaction score
484
does anybody know why 66 lucky heights which is a freehold detached with land size of 4365 sq ft and 3 storey sold so cheap at 3.75 million only?
very puzzling.
the owner might have pledged the property to the bank hence a caveat is lodged.
 

bacon

Senior Member
Joined
May 20, 2003
Messages
694
Reaction score
121
Low prices out of the norm could be family sale. E.g inherited property sibling buys out other siblings.
 

staseus

Junior Member
Joined
Sep 23, 2014
Messages
12
Reaction score
1
Hi, just started looking for landed..
With so much variables for landed, I find it difficult to make a judgement.

for example, if there are 2 houses for sale, in the same enclave, same cost and same size of land.

1 is 10year old rebuilt from original site, has twice the amt of GFA ie approx 4500sqft
The other one is a brand new build, but only half the gfa of 2600. Better location and unblocked view.

which one will you choose?
 

limck

Master Member
Joined
Jan 1, 2000
Messages
4,627
Reaction score
484
Hi, just started looking for landed..
With so much variables for landed, I find it difficult to make a judgement.

for example, if there are 2 houses for sale, in the same enclave, same cost and same size of land.

1 is 10year old rebuilt from original site, has twice the amt of GFA ie approx 4500sqft
The other one is a brand new build, but only half the gfa of 2600. Better location and unblocked view.

which one will you choose?

questions you should also ask yourself.
1. do you drive?
2. how far away are the houses away from amenities (eg: bus stop, supermarkets, neighbourhood stores, etc)
3. how many pax will be staying with you

if your answer to question 1 above is yes and your family owns 1 or more cars, then question 2 is quite irrelevant. Question 3 becomes more important as if you have more pax staying, then more space and rooms will be better. If only 2 pax are staying, then it makes not much difference but the smaller house might be easier to upkeep if you're not planning to hire a helper or getting a part time helper/cleaner.

Personally, unblocked view is not important as how often are you going to be standing outside and "admiring" the views? With SG's weather, you're likely to encounter either sun or rain most of the time during the day. Even at night, the humidity will likely make you want to just want to relax indoors with aircon turned on rather than outside.

But you mentioned 2600sqf for a brand new built doesn't seem right as these days, developers will try to maximise the land and buildable area rather than keeping the building smaller than what is allowed. Maybe you can share the locations of the 2 houses as well if you don't mind.
 

staseus

Junior Member
Joined
Sep 23, 2014
Messages
12
Reaction score
1
questions you should also ask yourself.
1. do you drive?
2. how far away are the houses away from amenities (eg: bus stop, supermarkets, neighbourhood stores, etc)
3. how many pax will be staying with you

if your answer to question 1 above is yes and your family owns 1 or more cars, then question 2 is quite irrelevant. Question 3 becomes more important as if you have more pax staying, then more space and rooms will be better. If only 2 pax are staying, then it makes not much difference but the smaller house might be easier to upkeep if you're not planning to hire a helper or getting a part time helper/cleaner.

Personally, unblocked view is not important as how often are you going to be standing outside and "admiring" the views? With SG's weather, you're likely to encounter either sun or rain most of the time during the day. Even at night, the humidity will likely make you want to just want to relax indoors with aircon turned on rather than outside.

But you mentioned 2600sqf for a brand new built doesn't seem right as these days, developers will try to maximise the land and buildable area rather than keeping the building smaller than what is allowed. Maybe you can share the locations of the 2 houses as well if you don't mind.
 

staseus

Junior Member
Joined
Sep 23, 2014
Messages
12
Reaction score
1
Wow! Thanks limck for your quick reply! That’s because of land betterment charges. A subdivided plot, so gfa is reduced to avoid the LBC.

apologies.. preferred not to share the location at this time.

the smaller build is at the doorstep of mrt. While the bigger build is abt 5mins walk from mrt.

I’ll take some time to mull on your words!
losing sleep since it’s such a large quantum. At more than 6mil
 

limck

Master Member
Joined
Jan 1, 2000
Messages
4,627
Reaction score
484
Wow! Thanks limck for your quick reply! That’s because of land betterment charges. A subdivided plot, so gfa is reduced to avoid the LBC.

apologies.. preferred not to share the location at this time.

the smaller build is at the doorstep of mrt. While the bigger build is abt 5mins walk from mrt.

I’ll take some time to mull on your words!
losing sleep since it’s such a large quantum. At more than 6mil

No worries on not sharing the location. are both houses semi-d or terrace? developer want to maximise profit and skimp on the house size to reduce LBC but it also likely filters out potential buyers who want more space.

5 mins walk from MRT isn't that far so location wise doesn't make much difference. in fact, away from MRT doorstep may give you slightly more privacy.

technically both houses are not designed according to your requirements so you need to decide whether you need the additional space as well as which house layout you prefer. a 10 year old house should be as good as new with a fresh coat of paint and touch-ups here and there.
 

Who?

Senior Member
Joined
Jan 1, 2000
Messages
1,176
Reaction score
5
No worries on not sharing the location. are both houses semi-d or terrace? developer want to maximise profit and skimp on the house size to reduce LBC but it also likely filters out potential buyers who want more space.

5 mins walk from MRT isn't that far so location wise doesn't make much difference. in fact, away from MRT doorstep may give you slightly more privacy.

technically both houses are not designed according to your requirements so you need to decide whether you need the additional space as well as which house layout you prefer. a 10 year old house should be as good as new with a fresh coat of paint and touch-ups here and there.
Rebuilt with higher GFA sounds better value since land size is the same.
Especially since the distance is only 5 min difference.
 

bacon

Senior Member
Joined
May 20, 2003
Messages
694
Reaction score
121
Ask yourself
1. How big a built-in do you need now and in the near future.
2. Landed 10year old stuff might need touchup or fixing. Roof, painting etc.
3. Does being at doorstep of mrt affect privacy? Or higher traffic? E.g people dropping off or cars waiting outside your gate.
 

Celibrium

Member
Joined
Sep 21, 2014
Messages
232
Reaction score
51
Hi, just started looking for landed..
With so much variables for landed, I find it difficult to make a judgement.

for example, if there are 2 houses for sale, in the same enclave, same cost and same size of land.

1 is 10year old rebuilt from original site, has twice the amt of GFA ie approx 4500sqft
The other one is a brand new build, but only half the gfa of 2600. Better location and unblocked view.

which one will you choose?
Option 1 for me. Spend a bit of $ do some minor reno and touch ups, essentially you're getting a "brand new" house as well. Like you said, if same price why would you want to choose the "smaller" unit almost half the size of the other one. 5 mins walk to MRT is honestly negligible.
 

rlskyline

Master Member
Joined
May 21, 2012
Messages
4,090
Reaction score
1,078
Option 1 for me. Spend a bit of $ do some minor reno and touch ups, essentially you're getting a "brand new" house as well. Like you said, if same price why would you want to choose the "smaller" unit almost half the size of the other one. 5 mins walk to MRT is honestly negligible.
ya I go for 1 too. bigger gfa is easier to exit in future
 
Important Forum Advisory Note
This forum is moderated by volunteer moderators who will react only to members' feedback on posts. Moderators are not employees or representatives of HWZ. Forum members and moderators are responsible for their own posts.

Please refer to our Community Guidelines and Standards, Terms of Service and Member T&Cs for more information.
Top