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brownkai

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The way he talked, he has the iron in him~ if he had joined the white, he could be very well be the PM~
The thing is he is not the same feather as them... Like JBJ, LTK, CCT.... Have U see a country make own Citizen become like 3rd class ?
 

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There is no causal relation between competence from high salary. We had high paying ministers, but we get train disruptions, nric leak, income allianz deal to name a few. Tracetogether is shared with police, and misinfo about the covid. Is this the competence you are expecting? Or pay them more so they can be more competent?

Can you then share what incumbent had shared in terms of the short, mid and long term vision which opposition do not? I dont see what east coast plan is different from the other grcs. Plus, this ge, what messsages i get from opposition is not at all toppling the incumbent, but more of presenting alternative voices. With restrictions placed on the oppo minority in parliament, what is the exact thing that they have to do that satisfy your “show”?

You’ve mischaracterised my point entirely. My words are "Competence demands high pay"; it does not imply a causal relationship between "competency" and "salary". That is to say, not all highly paid individuals are competent. Still, we can be fairly certain that competent individuals will want to be paid well - hence, a lack of high compensation will deter talented people from pursuing government jobs. I'll put it this way: the role of an MP, even at 30K per month, is not worth the time and effort of dealing with the ridiculous and nonsensical mass population.

The incumbent's manifesto highlights their plan of nation-building to ensure generational success. In contrast, the opposition platforms read like populist wish lists—responding to voter sentiment rather than offering real, operationally viable plans. That’s short-sighted governance.

And let's be honest: most voters aren’t equipped to evaluate economic or geopolitical issues meaningfully. Leadership is about foresight, not popularity contests. As Plato aptly noted, “The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.”

And this GE is a joke - we are becoming like Taiwan, Malaysia, and Indonesia. This election feels more like political theatre—mud-slinging over policy substance. We need real leadership—people who can inspire, articulate vision, and execute. Right now, we’re just getting figureheads who happen to be in charge.
 

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You’ve mischaracterised my point entirely. My words are "Competence demands high pay"; it does not imply a causal relationship between "competency" and "salary". That is to say, not all highly paid individuals are competent. Still, we can be fairly certain that competent individuals will want to be paid well - hence, a lack of high compensation will deter talented people from pursuing government jobs. I'll put it this way: the role of an MP, even at 30K per month, is not worth the time and effort of dealing with the ridiculous and nonsensical mass population.

The incumbent's manifesto highlights their plan of nation-building to ensure generational success. In contrast, the opposition platforms read like populist wish lists—responding to voter sentiment rather than offering real, operationally viable plans. That’s short-sighted governance.

And let's be honest: most voters aren’t equipped to evaluate economic or geopolitical issues meaningfully. Leadership is about foresight, not popularity contests. As Plato aptly noted, “The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.”

And this GE is a joke - we are becoming like Taiwan, Malaysia, and Indonesia. This election feels more like political theatre—mud-slinging over policy substance. We need real leadership—people who can inspire, articulate vision, and execute. Right now, we’re just getting figureheads who happen to be in charge.
You think too highly of the current slate of MP in parliment. Most of them are not even worth the $16k per month paid just for them to treat it as a part time job and a yes man in parliment.

And you have entirely forgotten that MP and Ministers are supported by the entire civil service at their disposal.

Do you think MP and Ministers come up with policy on their own? They don’t even write their own speeches in most cases.

the current gov neither inspire nor show real leadership over the years and lets not even talk about execution - where they perform the worse.

The Pap of today is a far cry from the pap of the past.
 

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Edwin Koo FB Post:

In GE2025, the Singapore Democratic Party (SDP) was the only opposition to stage its own version of the Fullerton Rally in the CBD. On a blistering afternoon, the crowds gathered to lounge and listen - many were seated on the steps of UOB Promenade. It was as if this was a picnic in the park, not a political rally.

Despite the punishing afternoon sun, the crowd maintained good cheer. There was a palpable thirst for Opposition rhetoric.

In response, the crowd would punctuate their applause with jibes, whoots and jeers.

I noticed that sitting in the front row was a quiet old man, who didn’t flinch as the blistering heat beat down on him. He didn’t even attempt to take out an umbrella.

Dexter, I found out later, is all of 84 years old and still going strong. He had attended one other rally - WP rally at Punggol. When I asked him why he didn’t go hide in the shade, he said: “If you choose to come then you cannot choose comfort, just come to the front.”

Now, this is the can-do spirit that we need to preserve.

#ge2025 #stepup #singapore #mothershipsg
 
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The way I see it, the fundamental problem with the current govt is that they really don't think they are answerable to the people at all. Yes they will pay lip service with words like "consult" and "feedback" but apart from a brief wayang every 5 years when they pretend to have listened to what you said over the last 5 years (and not acted on it), everything is top down directives and take it or leave it.

This attitude is especially apparent in the way they answer questions in Parliament. A sizable proportion of Sinkies voted for opposition, and the opposition MPs represent their voices. Yet you see PAP MPs and ministers refusing to answer questions, and making snide comments when questioned instead. One cannot help but conclude that they put themselves, their egos and their party over people and country.

:rolleyes:
 

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You’ve mischaracterised my point entirely. My words are "Competence demands high pay"; it does not imply a causal relationship between "competency" and "salary". That is to say, not all highly paid individuals are competent. Still, we can be fairly certain that competent individuals will want to be paid well - hence, a lack of high compensation will deter talented people from pursuing government jobs. I'll put it this way: the role of an MP, even at 30K per month, is not worth the time and effort of dealing with the ridiculous and nonsensical mass population.

The incumbent's manifesto highlights their plan of nation-building to ensure generational success. In contrast, the opposition platforms read like populist wish lists—responding to voter sentiment rather than offering real, operationally viable plans. That’s short-sighted governance.

And let's be honest: most voters aren’t equipped to evaluate economic or geopolitical issues meaningfully. Leadership is about foresight, not popularity contests. As Plato aptly noted, “The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.”

And this GE is a joke - we are becoming like Taiwan, Malaysia, and Indonesia. This election feels more like political theatre—mud-slinging over policy substance. We need real leadership—people who can inspire, articulate vision, and execute. Right now, we’re just getting figureheads who happen to be in charge.
Competence demands high pay. This means with competence, high pay is expected. Isn't this the causal relationship? If high pay then implies competence, that’s correlation.

Managing a nation has similarities to managing a company. But, the difference is a nation leader serves its people, while the latter is serving shareholders. This is the key difference. A shareholder can give up his rights by selling his shares and buy into another, a citizen cannot easily transfer his citizenship.

What is populist? If you are anti populist, this may imply a full disregard in common concerns the people are facing. Quite elitist i would say.

Lastly, tell me who is inspiring in the incumbent? Personally i don't think anyone, because putting Singapore highly up in the global level, we don’t have the Taiwanese TSMC, Malaysia’s GRAB. Yes, we have Razor and SecretLab, but these 2 known companies are only limited to gaming industry.
 

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The way I see it, the fundamental problem with the current govt is that they really don't think they are answerable to the people at all. Yes they will pay lip service with words like "consult" and "feedback" but apart from a brief wayang every 5 years when they pretend to have listened to what you said over the last 5 years (and not acted on it), everything is top down directives and take it or leave it.

This attitude is especially apparent in the way they answer questions in Parliament. A sizable proportion of Sinkies voted for opposition, and the opposition MPs represent their voices. Yet you see PAP MPs and ministers refusing to answer questions, and making snide comments when questioned instead. One cannot help but conclude that they put themselves, their egos and their party over people and country.

:rolleyes:
You forgot their favourite word of all time: continue to monitor
 

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I hope he gets into the parliament.
Together with MW, both enough to create havoc in the house , to make them work doubly hard for the people well being amd welfare.
 

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