[GE2025] Jalan Kayu SMC

krikering

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A responsible voter should always examine the context and not just react on headlines or partisan spin.

Yes, both Andre and Ng Chee Meng made mistakes. But let’s not pretend they are the same.

Andre’s lapse was a private conversation that caused no public harm. He owned up and apologised the moment it was leaked, something not easy for anyone to do under public scrutiny.

On the other hand, Ng Chee Meng’s mistake involved a serious governance lapse where the decision could have affected millions of Singaporeans if the sale had gone through. And instead of addressing it when it first came to light, he remained silent. The apology only came months later, when the heat became too hard to ignore.

Some would probably be quick to say the same that Andre only apologised because he got caught. But let’s be honest. It was a private chat. Most people would not expect their personal messages to be made public. He did not owe the public that explanation, but he gave it anyway. That shows character. Meanwhile, what does it say about a leader who avoids accountability until it’s politically necessary?

In the end, vote for the one who takes ownership and puts Singaporeans first and not the one who hides behind excuses and party protection.
Andre practically talks like what a typical Singaporean does in their own private chat settings.

I am very curious about what kind of texts NCM types in his private chat messages.

Let see if he has never ever used the f-bomb in his entire working career or not.

Tbh, just ask the people who worked under him in Airforce/CS you will know NCM disliked he is.

According to some posters on reddit, CHT are also known to directly throw f-bombs at people one (Not via text, but directly at the person and people around can hear).

Sim Ann make her staff carry her bags for her.

People whom worked under TSL in CS/Private Sector (before he joined Govt) also said alot of bad things about him.

Of course, I cannot 100% verify with those people myself.

In conclusion, everyone say a lot of stuff (considered to be inappropriate in public settings) in their private chat settings all the time. No one is a saint.

If going to be this strict, then Nobody (be it PAP or Opposition) can run for elections liao.
 

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Andre practically talks like what a typical Singaporean does in their own private chat settings.

I am very curious about what kind of texts NCM types in his private chat messages.

Let see if he has never ever used the f-bomb in his entire working career or not.

Tbh, just ask the people who worked under him in Airforce/CS you will know NCM disliked he is.

According to some posters on reddit, CHT are also known to directly throw f-bombs at people one (Not via text, but directly at the person and people around can hear).

Sim Ann make her staff carry her bags for her.

People whom worked under TSL in CS/Private Sector (before he joined Govt) also said alot of bad things about him.

Of course, I cannot 100% verify with those people myself.

In conclusion, everyone say a lot of stuff (considered to be inappropriate in public settings) in their private chat settings all the time. No one is a saint.

If going to be this strict, then Nobody (be it PAP or Opposition) can run for elections liao.
Yeah. I hear you.

Well. I'm not someone to speculate based on hearsay. Whatever my opinion about the mistake by Andre and Ng Chee Meng are based on all facts (i.e. telegram messages) and circumstances (i.e. reports on the botch sales) that were avaliable.

So, weighing the seriousness of the lapse, it pretty clear which one is more serious.
 

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If I am sitting in the fence previously, I may now vote for him as he has the fire in him and willing to speak up on things that he feels is not right as compared to someone who knows that things are not right but chose to keep silent about it.

I would think the leaks will be a good boost as well. There’s different sides to a coin.
So true. The chats showed that Andre has no qualms speaking out for things not right.
 

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Jalan Kayu voters really need to cool down and think hard. Do you want someone that share the same grievances like you and go f the hornet nest or do you want someone to repay your vote by selling you out and be f.
I see the anger could be channeled
 

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even no saga he also lose one. this smc is pinky territory u tink WP dunnoe meh. else won't send a greenhorn. just use as training for experience nia.
Need to be realistic..

Even no saga.. with 主公 and 大都督 around rallying a SMC more than GRC..

I doubt will lose..

Furthermore still deploy the ridout Right hand man out.. surely victory
 

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even no saga he also lose one. this smc is pinky territory u tink WP dunnoe meh. else won't send a greenhorn. just use as training for experience nia.
Yep

I am pretty sure if NCM win this

5 year later jalan kayu will be absorb into amk grc

Then lee retire and NCM replace him and helm the new amk GRC
 

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Yep

I am pretty sure if NCM win this

5 year later jalan kayu will be absorb into amk grc

Then lee retire and NCM replace him and helm the new amk GRC
huh.. it jus cut out from amk this round nia then next round go back liao ar.
 

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huh.. it jus cut out from amk this round nia then next round go back liao ar.
Cut out to give NCM go in ma.

They want NCM in. But they not going to risk a GRC for it.

So best is to cut one small one out to let him use as platform to come back to parliament

Even if there's a freak result. People really hate ncm and vote against him.

They lose only lose a smc only.
 

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Cut out to give NCM go in ma.

They want NCM in. But they not going to risk a GRC for it.

So best is to cut one small one out to let him use as platform to come back to parliament

Even if there's a freak result. People really hate ncm and vote against him.

They lose only lose a smc only.
It appears to be a cut out of a sure win area specially for ncm to contest one. Jalan Kayu is part of AMK which is the stronghold for PAP. His winning speech would probably that he win based on his own merit.
 

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If that is all they can find, Andre's background should be very clean. Good that he has been checked by both sides.
He is law trained, very good.
Andre handled this very well. Quick to apologise though I find these were rants in private chats years back.
 

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So true. The chats showed that Andre has no qualms speaking out for things not right.
Usually such opinionated people will Not be Yes-Mans one.

Because they dare to challenge what is wrong, and speak out for what is right.

If he joined PAP, will be similar to being another Tan Cheng Bock.
 

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How can Andre represent SG?? Bro Andre CMI... too bad...

NCM will win.
 

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You got worse ,up GST ,COL,papy standard very high ? You are f ,blanwash,and cannot think straight,good luck to your childern,with such parent.
You're brainwashed by too much populist idealogy. Good luck to your children and grand children with your lack of awareness and understanding, stay within inside your frog well thinking.

NCM and AL both are lousy. But at least NCM can be helpful for PAP. AL is going to drag down WP. JK resident will get ask to F O. AL will go in and leech our tax, he can only help by whining. He already outright mention that no point serving people and society as a CS. Since his heart is not there, why still go nominate to be MP and why choose someone whose is not there to work for the people?

NCM other side is unknown till now. Could have at least a bit of flame.

WP can only come out with unsustainable agenda that is enjoy now, suffer later. You're selfish to do so and ruining your next gen.

Give me PSP, I'll vote them. The other oppo, no. PAP over SDP, PPP, WP and so. Although PAP is not perfect and has flaw in their policies, but at least they have good working track record.
 
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