[CONSOLIDATED][Russia Edition] General discussion on Ukraine/Russia war

[Unic0rn]

It's the end of Russian empire because the core military strength that keeps Russia together is gone. What you got are regional military power that grown in strength and ready to rebel. The hollow out Russian military will only have enough strength to keep the peace in their own stronghold.

I don’t understand why the Russians started the war? They should never had started the war with Ukraine. Now the only way for them is to surrender and retreat back home but the damage is done. Their core military strength is exhausted and will take many decades to rebuild for their own defence and internal stability.

They sent the best and most experience elite fighters to do it.

Russia used everything in the first week of the war which included massive amount of missiles launched by bombers on Ukrainian cities.

Kyiv was over 60% surrounded but reinforcement arrived. Two Russian army groups tried to surround kyiv. The Russian went all in at the start of war. Their best and most experienced fighters lead the attack on kyiv.

 

[Unic0rn]

In my mind I was thinking if severely weakened Russia with no more troops and ammunition fully unconditionally surrenders and fully withdraws back home to tend to their wounds, will the victorious well supplied and well equipped elite Ukrainians troops push forward and fight back with support from NATO led by an increasingly hawkish Germany (with increased military spending) to invade and conquer Russia occupying it for decades?

 

[Unic0rn]

If the Russian did not attack Ukraine, will the Russian army be strong and hold the country together?

 

[Chalkycliffs]

In my mind I was thinking if severely weakened Russia with no more troops and ammunition fully unconditionally surrenders and fully withdraws back home to tend to their wounds, will the victorious well supplied and well equipped elite Ukrainians troops push forward and fight back with support from NATO led by an increasingly hawkish Germany (with increased military spending) to invade and conquer Russia occupying it for decades?

As shown by any recent occupation by an outside force - it will literally be like pouring money into barrels and setting it on fire, and then sweeping the resulting ash into your mouth and trying to swallow it.

USA poured trillions into Iraq and Afghanistan and then what happened?

 

[ghgan1]

 

[Chalkycliffs]

I don’t understand why the Russians started the war? They should never had started the war with Ukraine. Now the only way for them is to surrender and retreat back home but the damage is done. Their core military strength is exhausted and will take many decades to rebuild for their own defence and internal stability.

One thing about propaganda - at some point, you yourself will start to believe the nonsense and forget that reality is as hard as the ground you fall towards after you get shot.

The invading Russian forces deluded themselves into thinking they will be welcomed with open arms and bouquets of flowers by the Ukrainians.

The open arms may become a bear hug, dragging you to your death.

The flowers may hide thorns, a single scratch can be ignored, but a thousand cuts bleed you dry.

 

[ghgan1]

 

[sg-united]

Looked at the members ‘ comments, many hungry wolves wanted to shallow Russia alive. Many wish that Russia will vanish.

 

[parchiao]

Looked at the members ‘ comments, many hungry wolves wanted to shallow Russia alive. Many wish that Russia will vanish.

Already reported them for posting in the wrong thread.

 

[sg-united]

Already reported them for posting in the wrong thread.

I can understand from their respectives. Russia has a massive land with huge natural resources. Obviously, many people wanted to conquer Russia for the land and natural resources. If Russia collapsed, many countries will take the golden opportunity to grape the land and natural resources.

 

[Unic0rn]

I can understand from their respectives. Russia has a massive land with huge natural resources. Obviously, many people wanted to conquer Russia for the land and natural resources. If Russia collapsed, many countries will take the golden opportunity to grape the land and natural resources.

Russia should seek a ceasefire and truce to keep their existing gains and rebuild their country over the next few years with their land and natural resources to rebuild their economy and finances for their people and their military capabilities to enable self defense against many such countries that want to take the golden opportunity to grab their land and natural resources?

 

[kgluong]

I can understand from their respectives. Russia has a massive land with huge natural resources. Obviously, many people wanted to conquer Russia for the land and natural resources. If Russia collapsed, many countries will take the golden opportunity to grape the land and natural resources.

Other than China no one wants to conquer Russia. Russia is a third world country where the majority of thr population doesn't even have indoor toilets.

 

[ghgan1]

 

[sg-united]

Other than China no one wants to conquer Russia. Russia is a third world country where the majority of thr population doesn't even have indoor toilets.

Nobody wants Russia or cannot afford to own it is a separate matter.

From day one, you have belittled Russia like piece of ****.

 

[kgluong]

Nobody wants Russia or cannot afford to own it is a separate matter.

From day one, you have belittled Russia like piece of ****.

It absolutely the right answer to your question. You just don't like it that's all.

The reason why china want to invade Russia is to take back the land Russia stole and never gave back.

Russia is a third world piss ant country. It's conquers smaller countries and enslaved them. A world without Russia is a better place.

 

[ghgan1]

https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-...ts-Russian-Oil-for-First-Time-Since-2023.html

Per Japanese government instructions, refiner Taiyo Oil has bought a cargo of Russia’s Sakhalin crude to ensure stable production of the LNG plant that supplies gas to Japan, a company spokesperson told Reuters on Tuesday.

“At the request of the Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry, we have decided to take delivery of 600,000 barrels of Sakhalin Blend crude oil,” the spokesperson for Taiyo Oil said.

Japan stopped importing crude oil from Russia in early 2023, but it has a special waiver from the United States – currently expiring on June 28, 2025 – to import crude from the Sakhalin-2 project.


The U.S. Treasury’s Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) has authorized the maritime transport of crude oil originating from the Sakhalin-2 project (Sakhalin-2 byproduct) through 12:01 a.m. eastern daylight time, June 28, 2025, provided that the Sakalin-2 byproduct is solely for importation into Japan.

Japan buys LNG from the Sakhalin project, where oil is a byproduct of gas output.

Earlier this year, the Japanese authorities asked refiners to consider importing Sakhalin Blend crude to ensure that the LNG plant operates smoothly and delivers LNG to Japan.

Now Taiyo Oil has bought a Sakhalin cargo and “This decision was made to help ensure a stable energy or LNG supply to Japan,” the company spokesperson told Reuters.

The crude was delivered on a tanker that has been blacklisted by both the U.S. and the EU, but since Sakhalin-2 byproduct crude imports are exempted from sanctions by June 28, the shipment was allowed and there will not be any repercussions for the Japanese refiner. The EU doesn’t have secondary sanctions that would affect entities in third countries sdealing with blacklisted tankers.

The Aframax tanker Voyager shipped the Sakhalin Blend crude to the Japanese port of Kikuma. The vessel arrived on Monday and left after discharging its cargo, according to LSEG shipping data cited by Reuters.

 

[ghgan1]

 

[ckt1978]

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/6/13/russia-returns-1200-bodies-of-fallen-ukrainian-soldiers


Earlier this week, Russia returned another 1,212 bodies and received just 27 bodies of its own troops in return.

 

[qhong61]

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/6/13/russia-returns-1200-bodies-of-fallen-ukrainian-soldiers


Earlier this week, Russia returned another 1,212 bodies and received just 27 bodies of its own troops in return.

These leaders never value their people.

 

[ghgan1]