Are S’poreans losing jobs to outsourcing? Most seem to think we’ve lost our regional edge

[Akky85]

???? what's wrong? if got something to say, can be more direct. I not so smart to decode your hidden message.

Personally, this is what I faced as a Singaporean. It just simply doesn't make sense to be a bad employee as much as I dislike work in general and don't want to spend any excess effort to earn my salary for living expenses. Most people are stuck on this island and cannot 'go back to kampong' relax until things tide over.

Not sure what you trying to insinuate by calling it 'interesting'.

I agreed. What i cannot understand is why is Singapore helping the region upskill and up educated for literally almost free back from the 90s-2000s.

We source for ppl around the region, give them a scholarships or some sort of education route using OUR name and using OUR resources, depriving 1 more sinkie slot at the same time.

We get these ppl in and after they get what they want from us, a good number actually ignore and chose to ''flee'' SG rather then serving the bond as required. And we still cont to do it to this day. The insult is? They are now teaching their fellow countrymen on how to counter and skirt around these regulations and obligation.


So after a decade or 2 after, the results is now clear for all to see. We stymied our own nation's progress for short term benefits. Now the Singaporean brand is no longer as clean (corruption) and shining as before. Despite the fact more Singaporeans are looking for job year on year (new grad).


IMO PR as a scheme have to go. It's either you are on a work pass or you are a citizen. There should be no in between. This PR scheme is effectively a slap in every Singaporean's face, be it at school or at work.

 

[Unic0rn]

I agreed. What i cannot understand is why is Singapore helping the region upskill and up educated for literally almost free back from the 90s-2000s.

We source for ppl around the region, give them a scholarships or some sort of education route using OUR name and using OUR resources, depriving 1 more sinkie slot at the same time.

We get these ppl in and after they get what they want from us, a good number actually ignore and chose to ''flee'' SG rather then serving the bond as required. And we still cont to do it to this day. The insult is? They are now teaching their fellow countrymen on how to counter and skirt around these regulations and obligation.


So after a decade or 2 after, the results is now clear for all to see. We stymied our own nation's progress for short term benefits. Now the Singaporean brand is no longer as clean (corruption) and shining as before. Despite the fact more Singaporeans are looking for job year on year (new grad).


IMO PR as a scheme have to go. It's either you are on a work pass or you are a citizen. There should be no in between. This PR scheme is effectively a slap in every Singaporean's face, be it at school or at work.

Too late, after these decades they (the top percent that came over to SG) have trained up their skills, competencies and knowledge to be superior to SG. They go back to help their home country surpass SG and we are on the decline.

 

[jeffrey745]

I read some edmwers say before

Foreigners come here work to get trained then they go back to their countries and then compete against Singapore

That's a weird phenomenon where we should be learning from the best. Where's the skills transfer to our workforce?

 

[AndroidComa]

Dear all,

I hope every one are clear minded. Apparently there are many retailers and shops closing. There are many business relocating the operations and Jet star is one of those.

In simplicity, Singapore is getting expensive for everyone, including the businesses.

Where do these money flows?

COL is rising, cost of doing business is rising, but where do these money go?

Confidence for the future. More good years ahead... Let us take Singapore forward together.
Thank you.

if retailers and shops close
singaporeans will have no place to spend
and COL will be effectively brought down

 

[Akky85]

Too late, after these decades they (the top percent that came over to SG) have trained up their skills, competencies and knowledge to be superior to SG. They go back to help their home country surpass SG and we are on the decline.

What Singapore needs to do now is to bite the bullet and stem the outflow of knowledge, esp built up expertises, whatever we have left. We also need to go down the RnD route and get our own specialized tech and abilities. Being cheap and good is no longer enough for a nation that pride itself as a 1st world standard.

We need to come up with something truly groundbreaking on our own. Creative was a good example, however little time it had to shine.

 

[AndroidComa]

Be the one who managed the outsource lor

basically learn from civil service
everyone just be manager role
maybe parliament and army and police force can also outsource

 

[AndroidComa]

there never was an edge. The only appeal to companies is Singaporeans work harder than anyone else in the region to make the business viable, because we are the only country that have a mutual interest in helping a company survive.

You will immediately say those Msian and Viets work harder but they are only motivated by what benefits and salary they get. Everything else they can give up. Salary high but company going bankrupt? never mind. Just suck all the money you can from the company until bankrupt, then find job in another company. Boss comment work attitude no good? change company, change department. Salary not competitive? Find another country with better salary.

Singaporeans cannot give up on the company and cannot anyhow destabilize the company because if they do that, they are endangering themselves.

Singaporeans work hard, that is in the 80s and 90s
now people are fighting for 4 days work week with 2 days WFH

 

[lampano]

https://mustsharenews.com/singaporeans-losing-jobs/

The reason is that their technical ability and language skills are apparently on par with Singaporeans, while their cost is only one-third that of a worker in Singapore.

A Reddit user agreed, saying they once worked at a company where Malaysians comprised 90% of the staff before the company eventually outsourced the roles overseas.

We at edmw hv been talking abt tis for ages. With users sharing experiences of their companies n trends.

With costs soaring in sg. Alot of companies now outsource some depts to other countries n just keep a small office presence in sg. Or totally shift there.

Plus some bosses realised. In sg also employ Malaysians. Higher costs etc. Y not go there n hire them n pay them lower in rm? Save millions annually

N the education part. Sg education is rated better n uni rankings r higher. But y then those supposedly from lousier education n lower rankings uni on par with sg workers?

N always say sg no talents. Sg education fail?

article late by 5yrs min

 

[dambio]

article late by 5yrs min

Becos some ppl now just woke up n saw tis trend. We alr talked abt it yrs ago.

 

[AndroidComa]

article late by 5yrs min

article was covered up for 5 years minimally

 

[Coffeelix]

Yea our gov agencies ownself do outsource to 3rd party in sg alot

Our govt also hires Contract Workers to renew annually…

 

[Ubi-Warrior]

https://mustsharenews.com/singaporeans-losing-jobs/

The reason is that their technical ability and language skills are apparently on par with Singaporeans, while their cost is only one-third that of a worker in Singapore.

A Reddit user agreed, saying they once worked at a company where Malaysians comprised 90% of the staff before the company eventually outsourced the roles overseas.

We at edmw hv been talking abt tis for ages. With users sharing experiences of their companies n trends.

With costs soaring in sg. Alot of companies now outsource some depts to other countries n just keep a small office presence in sg. Or totally shift there.

Plus some bosses realised. In sg also employ Malaysians. Higher costs etc. Y not go there n hire them n pay them lower in rm? Save millions annually

N the education part. Sg education is rated better n uni rankings r higher. But y then those supposedly from lousier education n lower rankings uni on par with sg workers?

N always say sg no talents. Sg education fail?

Anyone shedding tears for those who lost their jobs when they were outsourced to Singapore.

This is the business cycle.

Chickens coming home to roost for Govt for not imvesting in creating local industries

 

[dambio]

Our govt also hires Contract Workers to renew annually…

They own selves get rich can alr

 

[dambio]

Anyone shedding tears for those who lost their jobs when they were outsourced to Singapore.

This is the business cycle.

Chickens coming home to roost for Govt for not imvesting in creating local industries

Gov tried with alot of hubs. Nv took off.

 

[Medicated Oil]

Have to ask those who are enjoying the benefits of outsourcing with their private dining experience.

 

[zueinder]

Singaporeans work hard, that is in the 80s and 90s
now people are fighting for 4 days work week with 2 days WFH

Uhh..not to be contrarian, I partially agree this point.

Most Singaporeans I know work pretty hard whether they are successful or not. Just that from Gen X onwards, got more of the 'work smart' type plus tang ping movement that contribute to the push for lesser mandated workdays and more WFH. I don't think it's so straightforward as now people are not working as hard trope.

Also, generally I feel people are getting 'dumber'? Like last time people will try to figure out stuff and fix things themselves but now everything outsource to the Internet, so there's less brain power in problem solving and more in becoming a sophisticated postman by remembering all these outsourced links and diverting the flow of information.

 

[Wstc333]

Many ppl hv worked with those talents b4. Their verdict is they're mediocre. Just bottom of d barrel. Just in sg to fill in posts n headcounts. N to bleed sg dry B4 they go home.

majority are mediocre and not as efficient as locals.

 

[Eliwood]

https://mustsharenews.com/singaporeans-losing-jobs/

The reason is that their technical ability and language skills are apparently on par with Singaporeans, while their cost is only one-third that of a worker in Singapore.

A Reddit user agreed, saying they once worked at a company where Malaysians comprised 90% of the staff before the company eventually outsourced the roles overseas.

We at edmw hv been talking abt tis for ages. With users sharing experiences of their companies n trends.

With costs soaring in sg. Alot of companies now outsource some depts to other countries n just keep a small office presence in sg. Or totally shift there.

Plus some bosses realised. In sg also employ Malaysians. Higher costs etc. Y not go there n hire them n pay them lower in rm? Save millions annually

N the education part. Sg education is rated better n uni rankings r higher. But y then those supposedly from lousier education n lower rankings uni on par with sg workers?

N always say sg no talents. Sg education fail?

Edmwers keep saying open leg deprived sinkies of jobs. This shows if we r not open, jobs would have been lost even quicker lol.

Nobody owes sinkies a living. If cannot compete internationally then it is just too bad.

 

[Wstc333]

actually as long as biz decide to outsource some functions to other countries, doesnt only affect singaporeans. but anyone including prs n foreigners that are working in the company.

 

[Coffeelix]

Uhh..not to be contrarian, I partially agree this point.

Most Singaporeans I know work pretty hard whether they are successful or not. Just that from Gen X onwards, got more of the 'work smart' type plus tang ping movement that contribute to the push for lesser mandated workdays and more WFH. I don't think it's so straightforward as now people are not working as hard trope.

Also, generally I feel people are getting 'dumber'? Like last time people will try to figure out stuff and fix things themselves but now everything outsource to the Internet, so there's less brain power in problem solving and more in becoming a sophisticated postman by remembering all these outsourced links and diverting the flow of information.

Conclusion:
Sg education fails big time in this time and age …
Sg ain’t hungry and lacks of exposure to the cruel world…
Self entitlement and pampered spoil child syndromes make them unemployable