EV driver jumped ship and tell u the cons of Ezv

[gilcrest]

does our ancestor received the car?

below got charging point ah?

 

[jtjt00]

The most challenging aspect of EV is that no country has found an effective solution to deal with EV fires.

Current SOP is to let the car burn down by itself..

Like this EV fire on a car transport ship, let it burnt until sank? There is no way to extinguish fire on a burning ship full or cars.

 

[jtjt00]

wait for battery swapping technology la.

by then they will sell the car without the battery, and cost will be cheaper.

Doubt this swapping battery will be easy for car owners. Which new car owner want their new battery swap with an used one? And the risk of fire may increase too.

 

[kyokoto]

I think if getting a new-ish EV, let the 1st owner take the huge initial depre hit might be a good value proposition. The buy back value by car traders is dismal I would think most EV owners would try their luck on the open market, and there is much room for negotiation since so many are selling vs ICE.

Unfortunately, used car prices in Singapore dont reflect this. Sometimes, a used car price here depreciates even more than a new one.

 

[kmkimlo]

Like this EV fire on a car transport ship, let it burnt until sank? There is no way to extinguish fire on a burning ship full or cars.

so far.. base on videos is to use big fire blanket to isolate the fire and to keep spray water to bring the temp down, but yea, is like gotta wait until the "energy" burnt out

 

[Philipkee]

wait for battery swapping technology la.

by then they will sell the car without the battery, and cost will be cheaper.

Wait till you swap into a lousy or faulty battery...

Think even the manufacturer claim is also just for reference only. Not possible to achieved in real life. Cause that is max range is when max out the battery to zero. But who will drive like that in real life. After that how, push the car ah.

Think many probably will start looking out for the power once past 50%. And desperately looking to do charging when hit 80% range. So, the actual distance can travel per charge is actually much shorter in between charges. Thus charging is a constant worry for ev driver bah.

Plus each charge would shorten battery life?

Doubt this swapping battery will be easy for car owners. Which new car owner want their new battery swap with a used one? And the risk of fire may increase too.

Not impossible.

Sell cars without the batteries. Batteries be produced in Singapore by I dunno Singapore technologies? Then they are serialised.

So when you swop batteries, you can only swop with Singapore made batteries so they are more or less “guaranteed” since with each swop, the old battery is charged and checked.

You go overseas swop to a Malaysian battery and come back to swop to Singapore battery- can. With a surcharge

 

[Philipkee]

Plus each charge would shorten battery life?

Not impossible.

Sell cars without the batteries. Batteries be produced in Singapore by I dunno Singapore technologies? Then they are serialised.

So when you swop batteries, you can only swop with Singapore made batteries so they are more or less “guaranteed” since with each swop, the old battery is charged and checked.

You go overseas swop to a Malaysian battery and come back to swop to Singapore battery- can. With a surcharge

Might be workable here but if people are asking so will it be cheaper, in theory same price cos cars sold without batteries will be cheaper while the price of batteries from Singapore technologies should be roughly the same

in practice it will likely cost more

 

[shidenx]

Electric car depreciation is a killer. U can compare a gas and ev model of the same make company

 

[Mystyque]

Doubt this swapping battery will be easy for car owners. Which new car owner want their new battery swap with an used one? And the risk of fire may increase too.

From some videos about existing swappable battery tech, it seems rather straightforward. Stop over the designated bay, it will remove the existing from below and slot in a new one. Less than 1 minute settled.

 

[paperplane1943]

Electric car depreciation is a killer. U can compare a gas and ev model of the same make company

strongly suggest dont buy car (gas or EV) if you have any concerns about car depre

 

[Evcats]

 

[shidenx]

strongly suggest dont buy car (gas or EV) if you have any concerns about car depre

The only time you don't worry about depre is when you will never change car and drive till Coe gone and scrap.

 

[roburn]

Hybrid is still the best
The article doesn’t state anything that is new.
Just advertising IMO

 

[Evcats]

It’s easy to make/quote a minute of video bashing how bad EVs are compared to a proper review of cars for their pros and cons

 

[keenklee]

i will still continue with my hybrid.

normal ICE sienta - ~450
hybrid - ~620


damn good.. still dependent on the "leg" and whether longer distance drive. but add ~30% of estimated mileage compared to normal ICE is not bad liao.

IMHO.
I continue with hybrid. Last full tank calculated for 43 litres is 1,027 km ( 10.26 cents/km ).
Typical is between 900-1,000km.
Average - Each tank refuel about 32L, mileage 745 km and every 11 days.

 

[carey]

Doubt this swapping battery will be easy for car owners. Which new car owner want their new battery swap with an used one? And the risk of fire may increase too.

It's a continuous swapping system - just like e-scooters in Taiwan

 

[arcturuz]

waiting for hard core EV edmw-er to come in and start to pick on this
the other EV thread a few days back..got a few defensive ones...scary

they have such low self esteem that they have to come to edmw to validate their decision

 

[keenklee]

It's a continuous swapping system - just like e-scooters in Taiwan

IMHO.
Cost of car > e-scooter. Likely mentally would be.
EV hope not to get old battery.
E-Scooter hope to get new battery.

 

[keenklee]

Have to check the terms and conditions.

I know of one AD.. the batt has to be quite cui before eligible for change ..

IMHO.
My ex-car, the AD will try their best not to change parts.

 

[carey]

IMHO.
Cost of car > e-scooter. Likely mentally would be.
EV hope not to get old battery.
E-Scooter hope to get new battery.

I don't think you understand how the system works

The e-scooters do not need to charge - they just go to a charger station and replace their battery with one that is already fully charged - rinse and repeat

It would be the same with EVs - they will go to the charging station and get their used battery replaced with a fully charged one on the spot

They don't have to charge the battery themselves - every time they run out of juice, just drive into a charging station and replace