Andrew Loh| Mr Tang Liang Hong has passed away

[Bad kids]

Spill the tea pls

This forum (SPH) very sensitive... have alotsa of 卧底。。。You go talk to sammy kor kor better....

 

[Philipkee]

Tang LH was the person LKY v scared of... in 1997 GE. That was the year I made up my mind to never vote PAP ever.

PAP was so arrogant and abusive to the max.

It is the reason why Chengsan GRC disappeared forever.

My family was mixed in view but my dad supported JBJ. I was in between cos too young to vote but I kind of supported opposition then.





Bought this book from JBJ when he was selling them at City Hall mrt. I read it and I was anti PAP since then.

I actually had high hopes for reform party cos he was the founder of it but when he passed away, I felt that was it.

 

[Bad kids]

A nation of sheep will soon have a government of wolves - Edward Murrow

 

[1.koln]

Never hear all these stories in school

 

[xdivider]

I remembered him. He got sued cause at wp rally he mentioned he make a police report cause pap leaders call him a chinese chauvinist. Jbj also suay, he got sued cause on stage he introduced tlh and say tlh make a police report against pap leaders.

The government then changed the law to sue TLH wife for lawsuit damages after TLH transferred his assets to his wife and fled singapore .

Actually quite pity him and jbj because of a statement make during a rally become bankrupt. Wife also kena.

i think that was the event which spur me never to vote a govt with absolute power. when something as ridiculous as teleportation can be recognized and a classified polis report can end up in sph.......

In a November 1997 judgement that concerned a separate set of PAP law suits against Mr Tang, a Court of Appeal comprising Justices M Karthigesu, L P Thean and G P Selvam noted that Mr Tang was not responsible for giving the media copies of the police reports, which would have compounded his libel. PAP lawyers had told the judges when it came to assessing damages that they were instead released by then Prime Minister Goh Chok Tong and the late PM Lee Kuan Yew.

The judges said: “They (the PAP lawyers) would have offered the court all the relevant facts, but it did not occur to them at the time, as the matter was never raised. We accept their explanation. It is quite clear that the oversight was unintentional.”
As for the PAP’s act of making public the police reports, the court said: “It seems to us that it was a matter of political exigency to the PAP leaders that the reports should be made public to neutralise whatever effect Mr Tang sought to make out of them so that the voters could make their choice on an informed basis.”

 

[Bad kids]

nong nong time ago... beside cold storage...

Never hear all these stories in school

there are coldstore....

 

[Philipkee]

I remembered him. He got sued cause at wp rally he mentioned he make a police report cause pap leaders call him a chinese chauvinist. Jbj also suay, he got sued cause on stage he introduced tlh and say tlh make a police report against pap leaders.

The government then changed the law to sue TLH wife for lawsuit damages after TLH transferred his assets to his wife and fled singapore .

Actually quite pity him and jbj because of a statement make during a rally become bankrupt. Wife also kena.

I remembered one thing but please remember I was a teenager then. I was wondering why didn’t OTC make a statement on this since he was President and it was an injustice done, imho, to TLH and JBJ.

Maybe it was not within his powers. It was just something I always wondered then and sometimes wonder today.

 

[Philipkee]

. when something as ridiculous as teleportation can be recognized

the teleportation wasn’t a wrong verdict from someone who studied law but it’s a reminder to be very careful and how you phrase your statements in court

 

[krikering]

Jbj didn't run.
I saluted him.

I also saluted him, but touch heart how many are willing to go to the same extent as him, Lee Siew Choh and Chia Thye Poh, etc. ?

Francis Seow could have been the original Shanmugam (LKY liked him a lot), but he chose to sacrifice riches and power to preserve a proper legal system/structure here.

In the end, also kana sued until forced to leave SG.
Instead of blaming the perpetrator, some rather choose to shame those whom unwilling to get repeatedly sued, jailed and bankrupted, etc.

I remembered him. He got sued cause at wp rally he mentioned he make a police report cause pap leaders call him a chinese chauvinist. Jbj also suay, he got sued cause on stage he introduced tlh and say tlh make a police report against pap leaders.

The government then changed the law to sue TLH wife for lawsuit damages after TLH transferred his assets to his wife and fled singapore .

Actually quite pity him and jbj because of a statement make during a rally become bankrupt. Wife also kena.

This is the main danger of over-concentration of power, SG now cannot do this other than because of Internet/Social Media and also WP's brand as a whole is much better now.

They try to play this kind of stunts too much, then WP and others will gain more seats. In 1991, even Ling How Doong and Cheo Chai Chen gained seats.

WP's party brand is more solid now, they can get more than 40% in all contested seats and keep seats other than Hougang.

Plus there will be dark horses every GE like PSP in WC GRC during GE 2020 and SDP (CSJ) in Sembawang West SMC in 2025 GE.
A little more, and the seats can flip liao.

 

[lifeisinforashock]

I bet LHL will be writing another JBJ-related eulogy.

 

[Philipkee]

Jbj didn't run.
I saluted him.

Complicated. JBJ didn’t run cos he became NCMP. But of cos after that, he could have run but he didn’t. But otoh, his son became president of law society so it’s not like he was finished in Singapore

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Jeyaretnam

 

[testing_testing]

Oh ya... he was the reason for them to play this infamous cover page

 

[messidona]

So sad

never got to return to SG for the last 28 years

actually can return when old monkey uplorried in 2015

 

[samferguson]

南无阿弥陀佛 RIP

 

[xdivider]

the teleportation wasn’t a wrong verdict from someone who studied law but it’s a reminder to be very careful and how you phrase your statements in court

as written no, in spirit you were not suppose to intimidate voters by being in there. by the fact u cant loiter within 200m means u shouldnt be allow to go within 200m of the place.........

 

[xdivider]

Oh ya... he was the reason for them to play this infamous cover page

the irony decades later there is a specific RACE only election for president.....

 

[Philipkee]

as written no, in spirit you were not suppose to intimidate voters by being in there. by the fact u cant loiter within 200m means u shouldnt be allow to go within 200m of the place.........

Actually, no.

you are not supposed to loiter within the 200m but the law never says u cannot be there or even be inside the polling area

So the accusation and proof must be of loitering within the 200 m boundary but the only proof opposition had was of the ministers inside the polling area and of cos that was not against the law per se.

You can’t say cannot be there in the boundary cos the law only says cannot loiter there and not cannot be there at all

You can’t say cannot be in the polling area cos the law never says cannot

you can’t say common sense la if you can loiter in the polling area u surely must have loitered in the boundary also cos the law requires evidence of that also and no one gave evidence of them loitering in the boundary

of cos this as before social media now probably a lot of GVGT so won’t happen again


contested election
After the election, the WP candidates at Cheng San GRC filed police reports against the PAP over the presence of PAP ministers within the precinct of polling stations in Cheng San GRC,[7] citing the violation of two sections of the Parliamentary Elections Act:

• Section 82(1)(d): "No person shall wait outside any polling station on polling day, except for the purpose of gaining entry to the polling station to cast his vote".
• Section 82(1)(e): "No person shall loiter in any street or public place within a radius of 200 metres of any polling station on polling day."

Their complaints were not prosecuted by the police, on the advice of the Attorney-General (AG) Chan Sek Keong.[8] The Attorney-General, in his letter to the Minister of Law, interpreted the statute as being "irrelevant to people" within the polling station, and that remaining within the polling station itself, as opposed to being within a perimeter of 200 meters from the external walls of the polling station, was not an offence.[9] He added that "the possibility of a person inside a polling station influencing or intimidating voters in the presence of the presiding officer and his officials, the polling agents etc was considered so remote that it was discounted by the Act."[10]

The WP questioned whether the AG was suggesting that it was acceptable for people to enter and loiter on the grounds of the polling station rather than outside it, and subsequently renewed its call for the establishment of an independent election commission to ensure fair play in the conduct of elections in Singapore.[11]

 

[krikering]

I remembered one thing but please remember I was a teenager then. I was wondering why didn’t OTC make a statement on this since he was President and it was an injustice done, imho, to TLH and JBJ.

Maybe it was not within his powers. It was just something I always wondered then and sometimes wonder today.

After Devan Nair, they really scared of president being too powerful liao. Even OTC's presidential prileveges were being severely curtailed. And after OTC, no need to say they went even further.

Now presidential roles is close to being only for ceremonial purposes, etc. liao.

 

[xdivider]

Actually, no.

you are not supposed to loiter within the 200m but the law never says u cannot be there or even be inside the polling area

So the accusation and proof must be of loitering within the 200 m boundary but the only proof opposition had was of the ministers inside the polling area and of cos that was not against the law per se.

You can’t say cannot be there in the boundary cos the law only says cannot loiter there and not cannot be there at all

You can’t say cannot be in the polling area cos the law never says cannot

you can’t say common sense la if you can loiter in the polling area u surely must have loitered in the boundary also cos the law requires evidence of that also and no one gave evidence of them loitering in the boundary

of cos this as before social media now probably a lot of GVGT so won’t happen again

hence teleportation........

 

[grevq80o]

My family was mixed in view but my dad supported JBJ. I was in between cos too young to vote but I kind of supported opposition then.





Bought this book from JBJ when he was selling them at City Hall mrt. I read it and I was anti PAP since then.

I actually had high hopes for reform party cos he was the founder of it but when he passed away, I felt that was it.

hey Same! I also bought this book when JBJ was selling it at City Hall MRT. I felt very proud to go forward, shake his hand and bought the book. He was very humble - said thank you with gratitude. No one give any notice and attention to him. When I went up to him, I even need to summon some courage.... It was so long ago, i was still a young man...

Even though I agree JBJ can be too drama and let his emotions took the better of him and let PAP played him inside out, but I still support him for all the PAP arrogance and power abuse i witnessed.