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i think more long runs and heavy load strength training will help you.
my legs were fine until after 35km where i can feel the cramp coming in on my hamstring.
i have not been dedicating any strength training for my hamstring which i will now include for next year.
More single long runs in one session definitely. There was one SCSM, I think was the first or 2nd year after covid, I ran all the way, (san upslope sheare bridge). And the final last 3 km, even surge the pace, and the legs weren't fatigue as bad as this year . Basically currently haven't build enough base. The day after the race, could still do recovery run zone 1 above 17km.

Difference was I was using pfritz zinger training plan, which has about three or more >30km long runs in the peak phase. And 20 to 25 km were the plans mid long distances which also plenty of them. But it is also demanding. It didn't improve my aerobic system as much as TAO. For TAO, by the time of SCSM race, my average HR was for MP was a comfortable 136 to 143, still within zone 2.
With pfritz zinger plan, too high mileage, shin splint, every week feels fatigue , too high training load and volume. But aerobic wise not much improvement. At the same HR range I was still much slower, can't do a sub 6 min pace vs 5:36 with TAO training.
Looking to still use TAO, but modify it when come to long run.
It is like how we train for HM, where our regular easy days now can go up to 21km without muscle fatigue, coz that's our base. Just need to make our base higher like the Pfizt zinger plan.
 
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found the video

thanx for sharing. yah the reviewer mentioned temperature does have an impact on the midsole firmness. His example was between Northern China temp around 9degC and in Guangzhou temp around 29degC. His point of view for 小鲶 is that it is good for fast pace long distance and not so good for slow paces.
Today i ran at temp around 14degC, pace around 5:30 to 7min/km. Will try again at slower paces (z2) this weekend and see how it feels. But i can imagine i can do a steady 6:00-6:30 pace for a HM distance in this pair.
 

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Saw quite a few used xiaonian being dumped on carousell but going for $100+ which is practically BNIB price. Might as well ownself buy directly from taobao if sizing is available since currently there is free shipping and service fee waiver vouchers for 12.12 sale.
 

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this color way was available at the scsm expo also. But i still opted for the all white. Cos it can pass off as a 150 rmb bata!:D Need to pass wife test
Danian got a black/gold colorway which is quite chio. Hope xiaonian will release something similar in the future.
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looks nice, esp the white one. you can buy for your kid, since its just a wee bit short now. he will grow into the size very soon.
 

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looks nice, esp the white one. you can buy for your kid, since its just a wee bit short now. he will grow into the size very soon.

But next time sure got new / lagi more interesting stuff..... heh
 

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I think in both cycling and running sphere, in 2026 with even further advancements and developments, using CN buay lao kui already.
I don't see China products as lao Kui. More about don't want China people here see me as their own.

Hmm.. maybe that could sway more ATB look my way? 🤔 :s13:

Anyway, I find Xiaonian automatically increased my cadence.

Usual cadence around 170. With XN easily 175, even at slower 6mins pace yesterday.

Also did 4 x 300m for VO2max, 4min pace. Just need to open step and the shoes will bring me along.

Damn fine shoes.
 

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Xiaonian to me, damn nice shoe to run in. The more aggressive rocker geometry is nice run at faster pace. But to me a 6:30 pace is also great. Unlike the 361 flame 4 even lagi more aggressive and fun to run sub 5 min pace, but horrible to run slow. It fits me as a daily trainer (go to shoe whenver doing filler run), a long distance shoes and tempo shoes, and interval shoe. It's really a simi sai shoe also can to me and does it well. Only thing I won't use is for track workout. Stack too high.

Xiao nian , Wind 3 TR, has closed the gap with non plated daily trainers which before that, China really lack decent non plated daily trainers. they only had excellent plated shoes with super critical foam then, Thanks to Xiao Nian, and Wind 3 TR. Our wallets are happy.
 
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I don't see China products as lao Kui. More about don't want China people here see me as their own.

Hmm.. maybe that could sway more ATB look my way? 🤔 :s13:

Anyway, I find Xiaonian automatically increased my cadence.

Usual cadence around 170. With XN easily 175, even at slower 6mins pace yesterday.

Also did 4 x 300m for VO2max, 4min pace. Just need to open step and the shoes will bring me along.

Damn fine shoes.
the only thing i was disappointed was the strike feel given the foam is TPEE.
I was expecting the "hollow" tad tad tad sound like on boston 12 or AAP3. But xiaonian don't have.
 

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I think in both cycling and running sphere, in 2026 with even further advancements and developments, using CN buay lao kui already.
Not the BBFA in this thread, we love CN product. LOL. As you said before, even if we just leave it outside, won't be afraid of kenna stolen, that's a plus.
 
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I don't see China products as lao Kui. More about don't want China people here see me as their own.

Hmm.. maybe that could sway more ATB look my way? 🤔 :s13:

Anyway, I find Xiaonian automatically increased my cadence.

Usual cadence around 170. With XN easily 175, even at slower 6mins pace yesterday.

Also did 4 x 300m for VO2max, 4min pace. Just need to open step and the shoes will bring me along.

Damn fine shoes.
You should join Zephyr Running Club. Got many ATB runners. Their running singlet also nice at SCSM, especially when the ATB wore them.
 
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