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Heh...... that's the good thing about Garmin, in the context over here in SG. Super branded. People like, high price also can move, F the lowballers.

Last year my wife wanted to sell (Huawei) GT Runner, $30 with additional new straps also nobody take. In the end gave to my kid. The HR and GPS sensors technically supposed to be pretty good as tested on Youtube (Ender helped me find info one), up there with the top tier models in Apple. Definitely not Amazefit etc.......

I think next time my China roadbike (T800 CF with T1000 reinforcements) if wanna sell, even with Di2 105 and changed rotors, pads, nice 165mm crank, maybe $1k also nobody wants......
And yes, i have seen before 1.6k on carousell nearly brand new everything, nobody wants. (on TB is 2.4k all in shipped/GST etc)
Maybe $600 got interest as a market cum fitness bike
Cant give to kid, issue is that bikes got sizing.
so garmin is like the iphone for runners ah? can hold value?
this coros value hor?
 
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There is totally minimal awareness for sports in Singapore. Maybe relevant authorities should step up and ask Mediacorp do more sport coverage.

More coverage --> more view --> more sponsor --> more athletics --> more competition

Either someone take the 1st risk or someone absorb the cost. (Not like it cost a lot, you can technically even use several iphone to do the livestream).

If not, those SG athletic so poor thing, still need maintain their own SNS.
so basically I feel it's a bit like playing MMO liao.. swimming ( rich man's sport ) where you dump $ to get ahead of others, running also same but I think barrier to entry a bit easier but at world stage similar la
 

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Heh...... that's the good thing about Garmin, in the context over here in SG. Super branded. People like, high price also can move, F the lowballers.

Last year my wife wanted to sell (Huawei) GT Runner, $30 with additional new straps also nobody take. In the end gave to my kid. The HR and GPS sensors technically supposed to be pretty good as tested on Youtube (Ender helped me find info one), up there with the top tier models in Apple. Definitely not Amazefit etc.......

I think next time my China roadbike (T800 CF with T1000 reinforcements) if wanna sell, even with Di2 105 and changed rotors, pads, nice 165mm crank, maybe $1k also nobody wants......
And yes, i have seen before 1.6k on carousell nearly brand new everything, nobody wants. (on TB is 2.4k all in shipped/GST etc)
Maybe $600 got interest as a market cum fitness bike
Cant give to kid, issue is that bikes got sizing.
I bought and sold a number of stuff on Carousell including bicycles.

Pricing very much depends on supply. Stuff like routers especially free ones cannot deal at too high prices.

Garmin watches have limited supply, branded and popular. So demand is there.
 

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so basically I feel it's a bit like playing MMO liao.. swimming ( rich man's sport ) where you dump $ to get ahead of others, running also same but I think barrier to entry a bit easier but at world stage similar la
Actually I realised I spent much less on swimming than running haha, running got coach, shoes, gel, race LOL
 

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SG is results oriented. They will pump funds to sports which they think will deliver like swimming etc.

Best bet for those doing athletics is ownself do social media like RunToJapan. Fund ownself and hope you make it. If all things fail, still can rely on YouTube earnings haha
But footbal is the strange decision that doesn't fit this narrative. A lot of funds pump in for facilities and supporting experts like physio and coach, players are at least semi pro, they get a salary to turn up for training and compete. But regionally performance, too much gap with our fellow asean countries.

I think very hard to have a professional model (non government funded) in Singapore. Overseas have professional teams like NN. Singaporean also very practical, after running career, what can they do if our sport industry in small since we don't have any professional teams like NN, ON Athletic Club to hire coaches. They read stories of how China Olympians have to sell their medals after retired from sport, kenna frightened to make this as life long career.
 

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Actually I realised I spent much less on swimming than running haha, running got coach, shoes, gel, race LOL
Are you swimmer first and running later? Recall something like you were swimming competitively during schools?
 

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Are you swimmer first and running later? Recall something like you were swimming competitively during schools?
Swimmer in school days but not fast, cannot get into fast group in club so never had to pay a lot. Also didn't bother to buy expensive trunks or goggles. Not like now always buying shoes haha.
 

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Swimmer in school days but not fast, cannot get into fast group in club so never had to pay a lot. Also didn't bother to buy expensive trunks or goggles. Not like now always buying shoes haha.
Would you say swimming competitively has translate positively to you running, especially considering your weight to pace ratio.
The reason I ask is I was following Quah Jing Wen for a while a few months back where she was posting some of her zone 2 runs and hill training. Her swimming performance like doesn't translate to a good running aerobic system for running.
 

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For those with Garmin watches, can consider selling the older models on Carousell. Can easily sell for high prices.

I managed to upgrade from 265 to 570 at $150 nett.
Good price is relative to the amount you can recoup compared to what you paid for when purchased brand new. Having sold a samsung watch and a garmin watch previously, the samsung i got back only 20% of what i paid for while the garmin i got back almost half. But then again, the garmin cost almost twice as much as the samsung.

I think demand for 2nd hand garmin is far greater than other brands as brand new ones are so darn costly. So yeah its a seller's market for garmins and sellers can afford to hold and wait for the best offer to come along.
 

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Would you say swimming competitively has translate positively to you running, especially considering your weight to pace ratio.
The reason I ask is I was following Quah Jing Wen for a while a few months back where she was posting some of her zone 2 runs and hill training. Her swimming performance like doesn't translate to a good running aerobic system for running.
I think cause I was swimming long distance (1500m free) vs Quah doing shorter distances, perhaps my stamina base was built there.
 

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But footbal is the strange decision that doesn't fit this narrative. A lot of funds pump in for facilities and supporting experts like physio and coach, players are at least semi pro, they get a salary to turn up for training and compete. But regionally performance, too much gap with our fellow asean countries.

I think very hard to have a professional model (non government funded) in Singapore. Overseas have professional teams like NN. Singaporean also very practical, after running career, what can they do if our sport industry in small since we don't have any professional teams like NN, ON Athletic Club to hire coaches. They read stories of how China Olympians have to sell their medals after retired from sport, kenna frightened to make this as life long career.
Because football is a popular sport that will garner attention. They know that if we can get stronger in football, tickets can sell.

Who will care about running if you are a non runner. Like who will pay to go watch athletics.Badminton also don’t deliver but they are getting some support because of its popularity.
 

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Good price is relative to the amount you can recoup compared to what you paid for when purchased brand new. Having sold a samsung watch and a garmin watch previously, the samsung i got back only 20% of what i paid for while the garmin i got back almost half. But then again, the garmin cost almost twice as much as the samsung.

I think demand for 2nd hand garmin is far greater than other brands as brand new ones are so darn costly. So yeah its a seller's market for garmins and sellers can afford to hold and wait for the best offer to come along.
I sold a couple of Garmin watches before. A few to foreigners who told me there is demand in their country.

my Coros pace 2 still collecting dust. I put at 50 also nobody want
 

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Because football is a popular sport that will garner attention. They know that if we can get stronger in football, tickets can sell.

Who will care about running if you are a non runner. Like who will pay to go watch athletics.Badminton also don’t deliver but they are getting some support because of its popularity.
LOL, even runners also don't go and watch other people runs. How many of you will wake up 6am and be part of the spectators of 2XU or income eco run. Club members supporting fellow members not counted.
 

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LOL, even runners also don't go and watch other people runs. How many of you will wake up 6am and be part of the spectators of 2XU or income eco run. Club members supporting fellow members not counted.
Even give you free streaming, also nobody will watch la. S league maybe still got some views haha.

People can wake up at 3-4am to watch soccer matches but who will wake up at the same timing to watch athletics and I am referring to people who run also. Most of the times we just watch highlights lmao
 

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Soh rui yong made a post on this. He brings up many good points on funding here vs other countries.


Soh Rui Yong(苏睿勇)

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This morning, the news reported that SNOC Secretary General Mark Chay called on Singapore Athletics to “join the party” and win more gold medals. Singapore Athletics Vice-President Marinda Teo has responded via a Facebook post as follows: https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1BhMdT4nrY/?mibextid=wwXIfr
The reality is that we as Singapore are sending a bunch of full-time students, software engineers, teachers, government employees, and corporate workers to compete against the likes of:
Puripol Boonson of Thailand: Full-time professional athlete sponsored by Nike, CP Group, Athletic Association of Thailand and other corporate brands. Not to mention, a 19-year old global generational talent. He won the 100m, 200m and the 4x100m.
Kieran Tuntivate of Thailand: Thai-American brought up as an athlete in the USA. Professional runner for Nike Bowerman Track Club. Would be a top runner in the USA should he have chosen to represent the USA. He won the 1,500m, 5,000m and 10,000m.
Robi Syanturi of Indonesia: Full-time athlete sponsored by ASICS and Indonesia Athletics Federation. Trained in Kenya for 3 months leading into SEA Games. He won the marathon.
🥇

Nguyen Thi Oahn of Vietnam: Full-time athlete sponsored by the Vietnam Athletics Federation. She won the 3,000m steeplechase, 5,000m and 10,000m.
Singapore’s top performer was Shanti Pereira. A full-time athlete sponsored by Nike, our government’s spexscholarship, and some other corporations. A generational talent. She won the 100m and 200m.
🥇
🥇

I compete at the SEA Games while studying for my MBA and running my own business as an entrepreneur. I could go on and on but you reading this probably get the point by now.
Singapore has the resources to fund a proper high performance athletics program if this country wants to, but those resources don’t seem to be flowing in to the sport. Till then, don’t expect to win many gold medals bringing knives to a gun fight.
Full credit to all our gold medalists in other sports. But unlike sailing, swimming and the like, where Singapore competes against countries much poorer than us in GDP per capita, athletics ain’t a rich man’s sport. Competition is deeper and comes fast and furious from more sources and directions.
Case in point: Timor Leste fields 2022 SEA Games double silver medalist Felisberto De Deus as a medal threat in the 5,000m and 10,000m. They don’t have a competitive swimmer who is a medal threat.
Anyway, at the Games, the priority is promoting the Olympic values like sportsmanship, friendship and respect. And developing athletes as people holistically by teaching them to face pressure, execute plans, and handle the result whether or not it goes their way. Fixating on medal count to me is not a holistic way of measuring success at the Games.

Too bad i not Peter Lim. If not i will pump in good $$$.

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LOL, even runners also don't go and watch other people runs. How many of you will wake up 6am and be part of the spectators of 2XU or income eco run. Club members supporting fellow members not counted.
I think I saw on my insta feed that popped up, some indonesian runner was saying Singapore marathon no atmosphere, ghost like compared to Jakarta marathon
 
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