Must read : Time Share Scam Awareness! Don't be the next victim!

[Nurasakura]

Hi. I received a letter from them as well. Not sure what to do so I went to Case. I just hope that the more complaints they get, Case might take legal action against them.

I received their letter to ask for payment last saturday.. Now I am confuse.. I never use their services and now they ask for payment.

What should i do? Can any one help?

 

[Nurasakura]

I discover, discover 8, the discovery group scams

Hi all. I am a victim of this I Discover group. I took the membership on 2010, without having any idea that it is actually a timeshare. From what I understood (from their talk) that it is a holiday membership. So I went and paid $500 deposit without knowing about the cooling off period AND that there is no cancellation available after the cooling off period. They didn't inform me, you see. So I went to check out their 'free gift' (a Phuket hotel stay) and I was shocked to see the condition of the hotel. Regretfully, when I discover called to ask about my hotel booking, I told them that I wanted to cancel. And there was no follow up. And after a year, they called me again to ask about the payment, and I again told them that I wished to cancel. And then all I know few months later, I received a lawyer letter from them demanding me to pay the Price of the Membership which costs nearly $20,000.

After reading all the posts here, I sincerely wish whether those who have been conned by I discover, Discover 8 and The discovery group to come forward together to file a complaint against them.

 

[Nurasakura]

Hi agicaniac, I am experiencing the same thing as well. Got a lawyer letter from them. I am have been reading this forum and found out that there are a number of people who are caught in similar situation. So I am thinking whether should we, the victims, come together and file a complaint against them? Pls Pm me if you are interested. I have been to their company to try to settle but to no avail. I don't anymore people to be conned by them.

Same as Boeing787

I paid a small amount for a timeshare scheme 5 years ago to Discovery 8 VIII. My bad for not calling it off during the cooling period. 22 Aug I received a letter from Gurdip & Gill, telling me to pay the balance which is $10k+. Anyone received something similar?

I am given 14 days to make full payment.
What step should I do next? I am not gonna pay money for this kinda crap.

 

[Nurasakura]

Hi Boeing787, I am experiencing the same thing as well. Got a lawyer letter from them. I am have been reading this forum and found out that there are a number of people who are caught in similar situation. So I am thinking whether should we, the victims, come together and file a complaint against them? Pls Pm me if you are interested. I have been to their company to try to settle but to no avail. I don't anymore people to be conned by them.

Hi guys, I need help.

I have signed up for a plan at Discovery VIII International a couple of years ago. After I discovered that this was not what I wanted. I stopped paying (My fault) should have gotten back and chase them for a refund). I have now received a lawyer demending me to pay the sum of $18500. What should I do ?

 

[Nurasakura]

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Hi dragonzelda, , I am experiencing the same thing as well. Got a lawyer letter from them. I am have been reading this forum and found out that there are a number of people who are caught in similar situation. So I am thinking whether should we, the victims, come together and file a complaint against them? Pls Pm me if you are interested. I have been to their company to try to settle but to no avail. I don't want anymore people to be conned by them.

 

[Nurasakura]

Hi misery gal, I am experiencing the same thing as well. Got a lawyer letter from them. I am have been reading this forum and found out that there are a number of people who are caught in similar situation. So I am thinking whether should we, the victims, come together and file a complaint against them? Pls Pm me if you are interested. I have been to their company to try to settle but to no avail. I don't want anymore people to be conned by them.

Good Samaritan,
Thanks.
Yeah I tried contacting those people who shared the same stories but so far no reply from them. I think I will just send D8 a termination letter before the deadline.
Wondering if there is any template for this termination letter? Are there certain things that I need to include since it's going to be legally binding?
Thanks very much for your advise.

 

[Nurasakura]

Hi chex, I am experiencing the same thing as well. Got a lawyer letter from them. I am have been reading this forum and found out that there are a number of people who are caught in similar situation. So I am thinking whether should we, the victims, come together and file a complaint against them? Pls Pm me if you are interested. I have been to their company to try to settle but to no avail. I don't anymore people to be conned by them.

I also stupidly sign the agreement with D8, about 3yr plus ago. I made a deposit of 1k and made 2 monthly payments. After that I did not pay anymore.

The slimy thing D8 do is they just slip the notice to cancel paper into the envelope without even telling you. If you don't see it, you don't even know abt it. I only found out abt it after 1 yr when they chased me for payments and I search the forums. By then it's too late. Even a fellow forumer recommended a lawyer who deal with D8 cases said my chances of refund is low, cos they did give that paper. They thing is they did not inform me personally.

Another thing not consistent abt D8 is the use of their service. While some people here say they make bookings after they paid the deposit, I have to pay 50% before I can use. And it's pretty confusing. The activation of membership is actually activating the 10 free nights/yr for 10 yrs. But you can dun activate and just use the so call extra advantage which let you book a room for 3 nights at 120USD+booking fee. So why some people can use the service after they pay deposit??

For 2 yrs it has been silent...until recently they called again to chase payment. I told them i want to cancel and now still negotiating. Hope i can get out of this mess.

 

[Nurasakura]

Hi KellyT, I am experiencing the same thing as well. Got a lawyer letter from them. I am have been reading this forum and found out that there are a number of people who are caught in similar situation. So I am thinking whether should we, the victims, come together and file a complaint against them? Pls Pm me if you are interested. I have been to their company to try to settle but to no avail. I don't anymore people to be conned by them.

Hi.. i'm a newbie here....

Just surf the internet and know bout this forum actually....

I had signed a membership contract with Discovery VIII 3 years ago...
And now i only realised it's a scam....

What to say... really bad feeling...only knew it and sense something fishy after this company called "United Wealth Management" called up and tell me a lot of stuff.. like wanna help me terminate the contract, bad reputation of discovery and so on....After i discussed with my friend, they stopped me from futher talking to "United" and go to CASE.

I am not sure how CASE can helped me much on this issue, but apparently
they write a letter to help me terminate the contract. Now, this discovery still deduct my money thru GIRO every month.....Not sure what to do with it as well..........
Seriously hope that i can terminate the thingy and no need to pay anymore.
Until now, i had not even use their service at all....

Seriously thinking why government didn't come out with a solution to stop all this unfair businesses around.....

 

[ambien]

Don't fall for any of these scams. All the warnings here are true. My dad bought one many years ago and due to the service being terrible and he found out he got cheated, he stopped paying. The company harassed for awhile but stopped later. Don't count on getting any money back. If you can avoid them forever and they don't send you letter that you owe them money, that's very good Liao.

There were many companies who called my dad and said they could help him sell his timeshare or recover back money. He went to meet some of these people but all of them demand admin fees of at least 1k and above. Lucky my dad no more money otherwise he might be tempted.

Another thing is that the timeshare company might ask you to convert your timeshare to some other investment at an additional fee. Terrible. Think my dad also did that. When the term of investment matured and he was supposed to have taken out the money, they tell him he's missing one form and thus cannot take back any money at all.

I dunno why CAD and Case and Sg Govt allow these people to continue to con people. I curse the ground these time share company people walk on man...

 

[FreDeRicK]

If these companies are still deducting via Giro from your bank accounts, call up your bank and tell them to terminate the Giro arrangement. It can be done so long as you are the main account holder.

 

[howantx]

Do you know how can we terminate the contract?

Please help.

 

[stayeur]

I almost got scammed by such Time Share companies also .... Just lucky I didn't sign up for it...

 

[natasa]

Hi Everyone. I am also a victim of idiscover in 2009 ... and have instructed them to sell my membership since 2010 ... which of cse till now has NOT been sold. They have since being bought over (so call) and is now THE DISCOVERY GROUP PTE LTD. I went down last sat to their new office (Colin called and said to update me on the membership), and realise i CANNOT SELL my membership anymore! The only option i have left is to PUMP IN MORE CASH ... to get a GOLD WARRANT! Can we go to the CASE TOGETHER! I have already paid my membership in full, and seems like its GONE.

 

[FreDeRicK]

Do you know how can we terminate the contract?

Please help.

How to terminate contract -- just stop paying? They will threaten you with official looking and maybe even lawyer letters.. but stand your ground and they will leave you alone.

 

[FreDeRicK]

Don't pump in any more money.. this is one of their tactics.. Don't trust those companies that promise you that they can help you terminate the contract and that you can get a portion of your money back. They usually want you to pay some admin fees that costs $1k+ upfront.

This is how they milk money..

 

[monkfish]

Yeapp this has been up for quite a couple of years. A lot of people asked why would anyone still "fall" for timeshare. The truth is, if you're not "trained", majority of the time you fall to sales tactics.

What this company has, is a call center of about 15 - 20 strong, dialing up numbers to tell selected individuals that they qualify to take home a tablet pc and a set of travel vouchers for their family - the moment they come down and listen for the 2 hours talk. Sounds a good deal right? Just by appearing there, and being qualified, you are promised a tablet pc and travel vouchers so your family can travel for free. Once you're inside the room, you're subjected to another series of sales techniques.

This company on average in a week, earns about half a million. Who's money? Yours. If you want to know how they got your number - pm me. This world ain't bad, its just you need to know how to differentiate the truth and the false, then learn to be smart. If you're under 35 years old, don't worry you won't be called up - so its ironic people above 35, thinks they know everything yet they still fall for it.

Yes, I was scammed last Sep. I paid $3,500 deposit. I went to the Small Claims Tribunal. Thank God, after the due process (which was long-drawn and a hassle), I managed to get back my hard-earned $$$ end of January this year. If you need help let me know.

 

[PoohLover]

Scammed by iDiscover / DiscoveryGroup

My wife and I were also conned by the above scammers, We were asked to meet them today, after we lodged a CASE complain against them about changing T&C (USD change to Euro) and having very poor after-sales and product.

When we reached there, they told us up-front that they will not refund us any of our $10,500 already paid to them (despite the fact that we have not used their service, due to the limited hotels and discounts offered) because the previous owner (iDiscover) has "taken away" the money and the new owner (a certain Mr Lee, owner of Discover Group) bought up iDiscover (so-called) and himself is looking to recover the cost by getting us to pay the remaining $10,500 (total of $21,000 in all) or alternatively, change our so-called travel service into some kind of "consolidated investment" with unbelievable compounded returns of 23% over 15 years ($73,000 returns for $26,000 investment - the new "investment" plan has more cash top-up). It even beats what George Soros or Warren Buffet can do (simply too good to be true).

When asked what backs up such a ridiculous claim or "promise" (the "Business Manager", Gary said that it's not a promise himself), we were shown a sample of the 3 "gold warrent" certificates signed for by a certain unheard of "Gold Pte Ltd" (which itself is not being monitored by MAS), probably some commodity derivative of gold (which is sky-high at the moment), provided the gold does exists and the warrant or underwriting company are real and does not "default". Not trusting any of these, we refused to submit to either of these 2 options, which required even more money.

Out of curiosity, I asked Gary why would that "Mr Lee" want to buy such a scam company like iDiscover, which already has so many complains and has very poor after-sales/mediocre product-line. The answer very much surprised me - aside from Mr Lee being very rich (net-worth 20 million and can spent millions easily), the new owners want to change the direction of the company, such that the existing 5000 members can take their minds of travel (meaning no longer interested in providing this service) and instead wait every 5 years for the pay-out return of $23,000 each time (aka that "investment" thing, backed by the 3 "gold warrants"). No thanks, if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.

Side note, assuming $1 million was spent to buy the iDiscover scam company solely to get hold of the 5000 sheeps (previous owners already "ran away" with previous deposits), each sheep is only worth $200 to the new owner. Thus, only 71 more sheeps to cough out $10,500 to break even...

Sigh, takes an unethical businessman to buy a legalized ah long...

 

[tazzycorner]

lol

got to give it to them to come up with such nonsense to try to milk more $$

 

[khimkee]

Hi All,

I also one the victim for the Discovery 8 in year 2008. try to resell my membership but it does not success at all. any method for me to get back my hard earn money? aih....till today i also think that day why so stupid to sign for that thing..haha..

i will be happy if you can contact me at 91683515..perhaps, we can lodge in the complaint together...or sue them together....or maybe other better ways...

thanks all..!!

 

[janXxE]

victims out there, contact the support group on fb! Share ur evidences to bring them down!