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Do not go to CCS office or U will get conned further. They are all Scammers( Confirmed) What they told U is to good to be true.
Thanks, Alertliz.

I also recently got a few calls from Allianz Capital Holdings. They claim they will buy over my CVC membership for their clients which are some Healthcare organisations helping their patients buy cheaper vacation/club memberships. They say they'll take 15% commission only if they're successful in matching you with a buyer.

I'm so confused with all of this... I don't even wanna think about these scammers anymore.
 

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Thanks, Alertliz.

I also recently got a few calls from Allianz Capital Holdings. They claim they will buy over my CVC membership for their clients which are some Healthcare organisations helping their patients buy cheaper vacation/club memberships. They say they'll take 15% commission only if they're successful in matching you with a buyer.

I'm so confused with all of this... I don't even wanna think about these scammers anymore.

U R Most Wlecome JADEdM. So Glad that I'v help a fellow TS Victim. Frm now just ignore All Calls frm these Scam Companies that tells U they will help U recover Ur Money and what Nots. They r all the same.
Dont Confuse urself. Just remember nobody can help U(Us) now. Our Money is gone for good. Nothing could be done. And dont get conned of ur hard earned money further.
They change company Names all the time. They hv ur Data/Contacts distributed among them. I'v been receiving calls frm these Scam Companies until today. Asian Fairtrade/CCS Latest.(Follow my Post thread) Just wish could warn All TS Victims like us to beware.
After LGM, now some of its Exstaff are continuing their dirty works, extorting our hard earned money like nobody's business.
 

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Go to the Press n Media to educate consumers on our experience...

Hi all, it may sound naive, but I think it is better to do so now, as I am also a victim and in the midst of cancelling my contract n getting back my initial deposit based on the 5 days cooling off period.

I am going through CASE to negotiate with the SCAM Company, and get back my $$$, this is done on 14/05/2012, and CASE had send a letter to the SCAM Company.

The SCAM Company is "clever" that their office was "vacant" in the afternoon so as they could not receive any registered mail of my Cancellation Notice and "Item No. Posting Date Status Date Status Description
RR627669557SG 14-05-2012 16-05-2012 Ready for collection at Post Office (POKLR)" till today no one went to collect the Registered Post.

Luckily enough I went to the office on 15/05/2012 and hand over the Cancellation Notice in the evening around 6.30 PM, but I had forgotten to get the idiot to sign on a slip on received of documents... ahhh nvm.

The so called "Manager" inform that their cancellation department work only during office hours and could only process on the next day, they will send my termination notice to the termination department for termination, They required me to write a incident report, so I wrote on it mention the reasons for termination, and I asked him to give me a copy of my incident report for my filing.

On 16/05/2012 after lunch time I tried called the office, and guess what? An idiot lady whose tone in answering phone was really rude to the max, mentioning that they are of different department and the cancellation department works from 6PM onwards... My mind was being blown to the top and took urgent leave to go down to the office and guess what the office was CLOSED!!! And there are some staff went in and out from the office saw me and my friend as transparent and never ask why am I here for, until I went to approach a male staff and I ask him is he working in the company, and he say, they are of different company they are sharing the same office only.

I know that he is lying from the tone that he spoke. Never mind, I went to ACRA immediately and purchase the business profile of the company, and found something very interesting, the office it self have 2 business on going, one is Crown Holiday Exchange and Car Central Automobile, and one of the boss is the famous person Mr Tan Kim Huat Jerry.

That's explains already and confirm is a con company. Because the company uses Car Central Automobile to do the transaction for purchases of the Membership.

If the company is doing a dubious and clean business, there is nothing to hide.

On top of that, the consultant who sold the membership to me is un-contactable.

So after my trip to ACRA and went to the office and look for the "Manager" again and this time round is the "Manager" avoid me, but the consultant who sold the Membership to me, inform that my membership has been terminated and already send to CASE through Registered Mail, and refund will be within 60 Days.

I only believe 1% of what she said, and what I can do is to pray hard.

For those victims out there, just to share that we can buy the Person Profile of Tan Kim Huat Jerry, and see what business he has and see whether is any of your friends being conned as well.

If you are a victim and wish to "fight" back, maybe you can PM me and see what can we do, but we can only hope for the best.
 

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It's more than 5 days, will have to go to sct to settle then.

They have been calling and messaging to remind me of the lawyers appt (to pay up the rest). Most probably afraid i will change my mind.

Thanks for the advice. All the best to u as well.
 

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Hi,

Have you heard of bric solution?
They claim to be able to help us sell off the timeshare...

Not sure if it is another scam...
 

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I believe so, I just signed a contact for 12k n paid upfront for 2.4k I just file a case compliant and will go down make a fuss to terminate the contact I asked case there is a 5 days cooling off period.

I've sent a letter by registered mail within the cooling period...hope it helps...
 

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Hello, I have received a new letter with regards to Discovery8 changing to a new company The Discovery Group Private Limited.

And I sort of ignored it and yet yesterday I received a phonecall asking me to go down cos they told me I can rent out my membership.

I asked if I need to pay more to do this "rental" and they said not necessarily.

Anyone else met with the same situation? Cos seriously, my payment is ending soon and I don't want to be caught in another trick again and sign something and end up paying more.

I already resigned to my fate and decided that if I lost all my money earlier on without membership, then so be it.

Anyone already went for the session at Concourse? Can give me more details what they are planning to do?

PM me, thanks...
 

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I've sent a letter by registered mail within the cooling period...hope it helps...

Just to enquire when did you sign for the contract? Have you go to CASE also?

I suggest you also hand send in the termination notice. As well,
these companies are good at hide n seek.
 

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Hello, I have received a new letter with regards to Discovery8 changing to a new company The Discovery Group Private Limited.

And I sort of ignored it and yet yesterday I received a phonecall asking me to go down cos they told me I can rent out my membership.

I asked if I need to pay more to do this "rental" and they said not necessarily.

Anyone else met with the same situation? Cos seriously, my payment is ending soon and I don't want to be caught in another trick again and sign something and end up paying more.

I already resigned to my fate and decided that if I lost all my money earlier on without membership, then so be it.

Anyone already went for the session at Concourse? Can give me more details what they are planning to do?

PM me, thanks...

hi ive been der. Email me at streetzfetishATyahooDOTcomDOTsg
Rental need to be pay. talk to to u more. email me. Im also confuse. read my previous msg.
 

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Anyone who haven't cancelled the Discovery 8 contract yet and still have it with them?

I seriously just want to know if they are capable of taking more money from me than stated on the contract.

If not, after I paid my dues, I shall ignore all their "kind" offers to help me sell or rent out my membership.

Like I said before, I just want to put this behind me and move on. It doesn't matter what I have lost.

Cos I received this change of company letter and this statement which disturbs me a lot,

"With effect of April 2012, a membership transfer fee of $7,000 per transfer shall be imposed by our company on all membership ownership transfer."

So does that mean that if I never agree to anything means I don't have to pay? Or I am automatically part of this $7,000 and it is compulsory to transfer?
 

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Hi, i was being cheat last week.
Will be going down to cancel the membership later.
What should i do??
 

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Hi, i was being cheat last week.
Will be going down to cancel the membership later.
What should i do??

Cancel within 5days which is the cooling period...you can go down try to cancel, but I think they won't entertain u. Most importantly, send a cancellation letter by registered mail.
 

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Hi all.
I'm just signed up with discovery and found out its a scam at this website. I'm over of the 5 cooling day. Just checking with the old members those under discovery 8 or Now discovery group, have u use e promise 10Nights before?

Cz most of u said that u dint use at all n come the lawyer letter.. Have u use the service before? I wanna know.
I did use e extra advantage to test market since I already pay 50%. It's service is not up to their promise. Most high end hotel ex; Hilton etc is always fully book. But I did get a hotel. I check in for 2 nights. But the hotel did said that I make booking thru orbitz.
I know u guys heard this hotel webbie before. So till now I don't know is still company a scam until I saw this forum. It's either they just book the first time so I get hook by them.. Maybe..
So I went to CASE.
Since I'm over with e cooling day. CASE ask me to write. Termination letter and ask for refund. Or no refund or no penalty fee. Negotiate with the company.
So now I'm lost... Pls PM me. Advice me.
Is there any other ways to get a refund and terminate the contract if it's reall a scam?
 

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Anyone who haven't cancelled the Discovery 8 contract yet and still have it with them?

I seriously just want to know if they are capable of taking more money from me than stated on the contract.

If not, after I paid my dues, I shall ignore all their "kind" offers to help me sell or rent out my membership.

Like I said before, I just want to put this behind me and move on. It doesn't matter what I have lost.

Cos I received this change of company letter and this statement which disturbs me a lot,

"With effect of April 2012, a membership transfer fee of $7,000 per transfer shall be imposed by our company on all membership ownership transfer."

So does that mean that if I never agree to anything means I don't have to pay? Or I am automatically part of this $7,000 and it is compulsory to transfer?

Hi.. Already meet e guy at concourse. $7000 is u need to pay if u want to transfer to another person. If not no need to pay but they will offer an investment that have to fork out more money..
Check with u, have u pay full Amt?
Have tried their promise service e 10N?
I'm also in lost I hope we can contact each other.
 

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Crown Holiday - 3rd Floor Regency House

i was called up and offered $500 gift vouchers, a holiday stay in thailand, and some other gift (can't remember)

they asked me to go to their 'roadshow' to collect my prize, and this was supposed to be at Chicago School of Business. initially very skeptical, the smooth talker on phone who talked to me (a Nathan), convinced me that it was a scheme to 'promote awareness' of their company, and the prizes were sponsored. Nathan's 'Supervisor' called me up to confirm my attendance, and told me my registration number was M-something.

on the day itself, as i made my way down to Chicago Business School, i was called up 20 mins before my appointment time, and told that the venue had changed to a 3rd floor office at Regency House (which is walking distance from Chicago School of Business. I started to smell a rat, and since i was walking past Chicago School of Business on the way to Regency House, I popped into the School to have a look to see if there was any 'Road Show'. Of course, the School looked normal, there weren't any signs that a 'Road Show' was taking place. I wonder if Chicago School of Business would like that their School's name is associated with Crown Holiday.

as i made my way to Regency House, while waiting for the lift, i ran into a couple who were talking amongst themselves about going to the 3rd floor. i asked them if they were there to get the free gift as well, and we started talking on the way up. the guy was quite skeptical as well, and we all warned each other not to be conned (lol).

we reached the 3rd floor and there was an office reception area. it seemed quite legit at first. we registered, and they made us fill up a form. they also asked some credit card details (what bank, issit a debit card, etc). DO NOT SHOW THEM YOUR CARD. i was paranoid already, and refused to show my credit card for identification purposes, only my IC. I scared they take my credit card number.

after registering i sat down with the couple and immediately noticed the company sign "CROWN HOLIDAY" which was printed on a cheap-looking vinyl sticker mounted on the wall. there were some remaining double sided tape next to the "CROWN HOLIDAY" sign, which uh, isn't very professional, and looked quite shoddy to be honest.

while waiting i did a google search for "CROWN HOLIDAY" and my suspicions were confirmed; it was indeed associated with TimeShare. I told the couple that it was a TimeShare and not to waste their time, and that I was going to leave. The guy started to call the "Jasmine" that contacted them, but i wasted no time in making my way to to lift to make my escape.

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I was glad i googled the company and found this thread as it really did seem very fishy to get free gifts out of nowhere. the company itself while i was there was full of ppl of all races. guys were dressed all in black and looked quite hard-sell kind. the girls, got some hot ones man, i think if i stayed and was attended by one of the hot girls i might have parted with my money (just kidding).

anyway, that's the story. i hope more people read about this, and spread awareness. the couple whom i met, were around their 50s, and surely won't google the company before going down, or even when they're there. tell everyone to beware!
 

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Indeed Crown Holiday Exchange is a TIMESHARE Company, and there is a Girl named JASMINE told me that my contract is terminated and send the letter to CASE, infact after one week no news from CASE, hence it is confirmed she tricked me so that I will leave the office not to disturb them CON people $$$.

I even had eyes witness to witness what she says and even tape recorded her conversation, hence if she really wants to fool around with people like us, she jolly well think twice.
 

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Hi TS Victims, I had purchased the Person Profile of MR TAN KIM HUAT JERRY and had a liat of TS Companies under him, those who need to carify can always pm me, I will be pleased to send you the Person Profile.

This Scammer can even have 2 or more TS Company open at the same address and use other "clean" company to do transaction, very clever of him.
 

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I was thinking why don't all discovery 8/the discovery group members meet up together. Then all of us go to their office at concourse and ask for termination and refund. With more Pple going up and complaint together, I think they will have to think of a gd solution for all of us and give answers. With more Pple questioning them, they surely have to find solution. And better still call NEWSPAPER Pple.. How guys?
 
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