Mattress - which brand / types?

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Just came back from Tilam King and bought the TK Luxury Series Queen Size with my fiancee. I like it that they only have 4 models - one basic model + three higher end ones (high density foam, memory foam, and latex)

I find it easier to compare and choose from these four models depending on my personal preference and budget. Highly recommended and service was good. Glad to believe in a fellow Singaporean and gave it a try at their warehouse.

Two thumbs up for TK! Btw only Vincent (the dad) was around when we went there this evening. Very knowledgeable and pleasant gentleman :)

How much it cost?
 

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Best way to buy mattress is to go physcally doen to those megastores like courts and try every damn mattress there is from all the brands.did that at courts megastore at tanpines.more than 10 brands. Then u know what u like.if u married,bring along ur partner. Make them rolland turn while u close ur eyes,see if it affects ur bouncing feel. Try the softness.try the comfort.u b surprised some of the brands expensive but lousy.vice versa

In the end i settled for the sealy orthopedic. This was 2 years ago.matteess still looks brand new.no regrets. Sleep like a log every nightand wake up with no headaches and back pain
 

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We can go on all day about mattress quality, brand etc but at the end of the day only 2 things impt, the FEEL and the COST. Yes, Tilam king aka Tony can give u a lot of advise whats good and not, but when I went to the showroom, all I wanted to look for is the FEEL, not sleeping on plastic wrapped bed. Tilam king claimed its for hygiene reasons, so many sweaty ppl etc and frequently change bedsheets also not enough? Isnt this supposedly a customer choice whether he wants to be "dirty" to test the bed? When testing a bed for feel and comfort, the mind needs to be relaxed, yet I couldn't even have 5 mins of silence as the salesman keeps yapping about this and that and the whole experience was a turn off. Tony u really need to work on that.

I had a total different experience at Englander@ furniture mall (near IMM). The moment I walked in, I was told to try every bed for as long as I can, if possible, go to sleep mode! I spend about 2 hours there, the salesgirl was very patient and polite, telling me the difference of each bed, and asking me to sleep as long as I can to find the right feel. She gave me ample space and freedom to try it out, standing far from a distance waiting and only came nearer when I signal for her. This is the correct attitude for selling BEDS! U wouldn't want someone to keep staring at u when testing right? Anyway its really really comfortable and to be honest I wanted to doze off. In the end I bought a king size bed for like 2.4k, currently on promotion.

Whops, sorry ;P

Maybe you had a bad day and I had a bad day. Cheer up ;)

I apologize that my passion overwhelm you. Nonetheless, Thank you so much sir and mdm for even coming to my place to visit us. Probably maybe next time, when it's time for your next mattress, you can give us another go ;)
Peace & Love.
 
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Just came back from Tilam King and bought the TK Luxury Series Queen Size with my fiancee. I like it that they only have 4 models - one basic model + three higher end ones (high density foam, memory foam, and latex)

I find it easier to compare and choose from these four models depending on my personal preference and budget. Highly recommended and service was good. Glad to believe in a fellow Singaporean and gave it a try at their warehouse.

Two thumbs up for TK! Btw only Vincent (the dad) was around when we went there this evening. Very knowledgeable and pleasant gentleman :)

thanks for believing in us.

Sooner or later, TilamKing will make the marketing approach very transparent.

Everything and anything is googable inside my mattress out.

Then, a proper showcase showroom concept will be out, like how the guy that I offended said.

I am a producer, not a marketer, and probably not a good sales person, but I have attention to detail in everything I do and love to do in and on the mattress.

Thanks deeply , and sorry to those that do not appreciate our approach.
 

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when i went shopping for my mattress at sealy, serta.. i was told to sleep as long as possible also to find the one that really suits me and my wife. simmons was abit agreesive on the sales talk.

how to have a good feel if its wrapped up actually?
 

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when i went shopping for my mattress at sealy, serta.. i was told to sleep as long as possible also to find the one that really suits me and my wife. simmons was abit agreesive on the sales talk.

how to have a good feel if its wrapped up actually?

Well I am aware that probably consumers arnt really aware of what we are actually trying to do.

Only some of our mattresses are wrapped majority are open to be able to feel and touch and lay on. You can sleep for hours if you wish to :p

What is in the pipeline is , we wanna work with local Singaporean company Novita to do a collaboration.

Since they are into healthy air , we have a space with mattresses on display.

The collaboration will be able to keep our showroom clean and healthy for everyone.

This is in the pipeline, until then, all the mattresses will be unwrapped, the point is to create a clean space for you to try, and for my company, I am a manufacturer, my hygiene standards are high.

I just wish to do what is right, if this doesn't appeal you, I'm sorry.
 

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To any other sales person in this forum, do note that I am hiring ;)

Reason why I post here is because I like the idea of caring and sharing.

If you market with just a purpose of sales, anyone can do that.

But if you can share your knowledge and help others, Tilam King WANTS YOU!

:p

I know wrong but seriously it is important for this to be in this channel and topic.

* hope this doesn't get me banned :p Apologies everyone including admins and mods.
 

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Tony, is the TK Luxury series using L&P individual pocketed springs? How many are there for King? Can list the specs and what's your list price? Thanks.
 

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Tony, is the TK Luxury series using L&P individual pocketed springs? How many are there for King? Can list the specs and what's your list price? Thanks.

Hi Jenson I PMed you.

honestly coil counts are not important when it comes to such an awesome supplier.

It is just like asking how much thread count for the linens...

it is not about the thread count, it is about the material.

If you know what I mean, you will get it, if you do not know, probably you need to google ;)
 

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Hi ton188, can PM me the price of a king size mattress (pocketed spring + memory foam) or (pocketed spring + latex)?
 

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Hi Tony, I didn't receive your pm. Can PM me also the price of a king size mattress (pocketed spring + memory foam) or (pocketed spring + latex)? What's your recommended model before I go down to test it out? Thanks.
 

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hahaha,

pasar malam brand, do you know that silent night is in pasar malam ? LOL...

they do mattresses that are very cheap.

KingKoil have several brands:

KingKoil
Dorma
Silent night
Wondercoil

and several other brands that I lazy to think about.

Dorma is their elite

KingKoil is what they represent

Silent night & Wondercoil are brands that even HDB downstairs sell :p so does magic coil, so does max coil. LOL


just my 2 cents.


Hi Tony from Tilam King,

Appreciate if you can exercise some professionalism. It is not ethical to be making such comments on specific brands. If you do not have evidence or facts to present to us about other brands, its merely your word against ours.

Meanwhile, check out Magic Koil's manufacturing process in Singapore. They manufacture the foam in-house, they quilt the fabrics in-house, they make the springs in-house all locally supporting local workforce. Obviously the raw materials are imported from brands overseas but they go through a process of manufacturing locally.

Magic Koil Manufacturing in Singapore

My question to you Tony is, you claim that you are a manufacturer. But there's a lot of buzz going on about you being a "manufacturer" without evidence or proof.

Can you explain to us what do you manufacture exactly? Where do you manufacture your mattress?

Do you even have an assembling or manufacturing presence in Singapore? There is a difference between assembling and manufacturing.

From your videos, it looks like you just visited one of your China contract manufacturing supplier's factory, took a video and said "this is my factory!" Do you even own that factory??!
 

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Hi Tony from Tilam King,

Appreciate if you can exercise some professionalism. It is not ethical to be making such comments on specific brands. If you do not have evidence or facts to present to us about other brands, its merely your word against ours.

Meanwhile, check out Magic Koil's manufacturing process in Singapore. They manufacture the foam in-house, they quilt the fabrics in-house, they make the springs in-house all locally supporting local workforce. Obviously the raw materials are imported from brands overseas but they go through a process of manufacturing locally.

Magic Koil Manufacturing in Singapore

My question to you Tony is, you claim that you are a manufacturer. But there's a lot of buzz going on about you being a "manufacturer" without evidence or proof.

Can you explain to us what do you manufacture exactly? Where do you manufacture your mattress?

Do you even have an assembling or manufacturing presence in Singapore? There is a difference between assembling and manufacturing.

From your videos, it looks like you just visited one of your China contract manufacturing supplier's factory, took a video and said "this is my factory!" Do you even own that factory??!

Woa Fierce. chill bro... I am just trying to be the person whom stand for Consumers in Singaporeans in the mattress industry.

But honestly I see this coming, and I am prepared.

1stly, I am not new in this industry, I have my life worth of experience dealing with all the brands in SG. Because we own a multibrand outlet.

2ndly, We used to OEM for one of the global brands and distribute in SG.

3rdly, yes that is my factory, it is not expensive to own an assembly centre in China ;)

4th, the reason why I started Tilam King, because I wish to create such a statement is because I feel for those whom spent so much money on something that has been overhyped!!!

Trust me, probably you are one of the more privileged people in Singapore.

People think sleep is very important and are willing to splurge. If you actually look at the Norm for an average mattress is actually at around 2.5k - 3k is the average.

that is a ridiculous amount of money. I would rather you eat the money away, at least you feel good about it.

the concept of mattress is never new. There is no invention of a new technology, there is nothing special about a mattress, it is merely putting springs, fabric, comfort layers in it.

My video is the TRUTH and i am proud to share my primitive factory. I hope everyone can see it is not the hardware in my factory, it is about the components inside the mattress.

So long as you got the right suppliers, the mattress is awesome as the components are, NOT THE BLOODY BRAND.

I hope you can understand, what I am doing is tough, but it is sincere and truthful.

I know I cannot please everyone, because there are a group of people that have the "more expensive, more better concept".

All I can say is time will tell, and I am working closely with my suppliers to make the mattress industry as transparent as possible.

So why you grumbling? If it benefits you ;)

Trust me, I will change the mattress industry in Singapore. I will do it.

Peace & love.
Tony
remember this is my handle, not some unknown nick that hides behind the computer, you can always find me at my shop. See the real me in person. Chat with me, I am always willing to share my ideas and ways to improve the industry. It is just filled with nonsense and I wish to do something about it.
 

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anyone using Tempur sensation mattress? being compared with their original series, does it feel very warm/uncomfortable while you sleep throughout the night if aircon is not on...? :s22:
 

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Woa Fierce. chill bro... I am just trying to be the person whom stand for Consumers in Singaporeans in the mattress industry.

But honestly I see this coming, and I am prepared.

1stly, I am not new in this industry, I have my life worth of experience dealing with all the brands in SG. Because we own a multibrand outlet.

2ndly, We used to OEM for one of the global brands and distribute in SG.

3rdly, yes that is my factory, it is not expensive to own an assembly centre in China ;)

4th, the reason why I started Tilam King, because I wish to create such a statement is because I feel for those whom spent so much money on something that has been overhyped!!!

Trust me, probably you are one of the more privileged people in Singapore.

People think sleep is very important and are willing to splurge. If you actually look at the Norm for an average mattress is actually at around 2.5k - 3k is the average.

that is a ridiculous amount of money. I would rather you eat the money away, at least you feel good about it.

the concept of mattress is never new. There is no invention of a new technology, there is nothing special about a mattress, it is merely putting springs, fabric, comfort layers in it.

My video is the TRUTH and i am proud to share my primitive factory. I hope everyone can see it is not the hardware in my factory, it is about the components inside the mattress.

So long as you got the right suppliers, the mattress is awesome as the components are, NOT THE BLOODY BRAND.

I hope you can understand, what I am doing is tough, but it is sincere and truthful.

I know I cannot please everyone, because there are a group of people that have the "more expensive, more better concept".

All I can say is time will tell, and I am working closely with my suppliers to make the mattress industry as transparent as possible.

So why you grumbling? If it benefits you ;)

Trust me, I will change the mattress industry in Singapore. I will do it.

Peace & love.
Tony
remember this is my handle, not some unknown nick that hides behind the computer, you can always find me at my shop. See the real me in person. Chat with me, I am always willing to share my ideas and ways to improve the industry. It is just filled with nonsense and I wish to do something about it.


Hi Tony,

Thanks for the reply.

Can you please kindly provide your China company's name and Address of your plant to verify the truth that you are really a manufacturer? Because such a basic information is nowhere to be found. It's hard to believe without evidence especially when you mentioned that you owned a factory in so many of your blog post! The only address available is your showroom in Singapore.

So I am assuming Tilam King mattresses are Made in China and not Made in Singapore?
 

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Hi Tony,

Thanks for the reply.

Can you please kindly provide your China company's name and Address of your plant to verify the truth that you are really a manufacturer? Because such a basic information is nowhere to be found. It's hard to believe without evidence especially when you mentioned that you owned a factory in so many of your blog post! The only address available is your showroom in Singapore.

So I am assuming Tilam King mattresses are Made in China and not Made in Singapore?

LOL

Well you are most welcome to visit my factory sir.

Anyways, I am the person behind all of Tilam King's mattresses, because this is my label. My OBJECTIVE is to bring the best components together. Tilam King is a manufacturer(In China), Designed and built by myself(Singaporean).

It is pretty much like Apple. The reason why Apple be in China, is because of the materials vibrancy. You can get very good components promptly.

In Singapore, you cannot. Period. You need to be a manufacturer to understand this simple logic.

Manufacture Mattress is Assembling Mattress, this is the concept of what Tilam King is truthful about. All my clients were briefed about how I made my mattresses. Hence, I do not agree on the price tag what brands offer.

My philosophy is simply, putting the best components together, hence the mattress will be good.
Doesn't mean that you have a brand, the mattress is good. It should be because the components are good, hence the mattress is good!

And in SG no factories can do high quality fabrication at low cost. Because there is no material supermarket plus there is no demand in SG. SG market is really small.

My objective is to let Singaporeans know more about how we manufacturers make mattresses and make the industry more transparent.

Ultimate outcome: To benefit fellow Singaporeans.

tony
*ps come to my office, speak to me, don't have to hide behind computer my friend. ;) We are Singaporeans, show some graciousness in the way you speak and talk.
 

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Firstly, I thought advertising is not allowed. So why is Tilam King allowed to post so many threads about his mattresses without any penalty?

Secondly, if I was Tony I would be careful about what I say. People can easily get sued when they make remarks about other brands without proof.

Thirdly, I would take advise from a neutral third party but certainly not from a mattress manufacturer. Its like Samsung trying to tell you to buy their phone 'cos its better than HTC, LG and Sony. Would you believe Samsung? Likewise, Tony sells Tilam King and is telling you to his is the best and not to waste money with other brands. Would you believe him?

Oh and please spare us the Singaporean support Singaporean theory. I am Singaporean but I will open my eyes and ears before I buy a product. I will not simply buy Singaporean just for the sake of supporting another Singaporean.
 

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LOL

Well you are most welcome to visit my factory sir.

Anyways, I am the person behind all of Tilam King's mattresses, because this is my label. My OBJECTIVE is to bring the best components together. Tilam King is a manufacturer(In China), Designed and built by myself(Singaporean).

It is pretty much like Apple. The reason why Apple be in China, is because of the materials vibrancy. You can get very good components promptly.

In Singapore, you cannot. Period. You need to be a manufacturer to understand this simple logic.

Manufacture Mattress is Assembling Mattress, this is the concept of what Tilam King is truthful about. All my clients were briefed about how I made my mattresses. Hence, I do not agree on the price tag what brands offer.

My philosophy is simply, putting the best components together, hence the mattress will be good.
Doesn't mean that you have a brand, the mattress is good. It should be because the components are good, hence the mattress is good!

And in SG no factories can do high quality fabrication at low cost. Because there is no material supermarket plus there is no demand in SG. SG market is really small.

My objective is to let Singaporeans know more about how we manufacturers make mattresses and make the industry more transparent.

Ultimate outcome: To benefit fellow Singaporeans.

tony
*ps come to my office, speak to me, don't have to hide behind computer my friend. ;) We are Singaporeans, show some graciousness in the way you speak and talk.


Hi Tony,

The debate now is about you proving you are a real manufacturer with real assets owned by your company in China. Why hide your company name and address in China from us?!

You have dodged the question regarding the company name and address of the factory you own in China repeatedly.

I think it's best you clarify with everyone here you are not smoking them you are a manufacturer when you simply just outsource the manufacturing process to a partner in China.

Furthermore, May I have your evidence for the following statement "And in SG no factories can do high quality fabrication at low cost. Because there is no material supermarket plus there is no demand in SG. SG market is really small. " ?

It's your word against the local manufacturers again. This is how you feel, but how do you know? Where do you get the facts? Are there any clear examples?

Just because you cannot achieve economies of scale in Singapore doesn't justify your reasoning ALL factories in Singapore are lousy!
 
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