Intel LAN VS Killer LAN

[Op_Valkyrie]

No idea how they use internet till need QoS.....lol......I don't use whatever S in my house and nothing wrong with moi internet also....

Using VoIP or other media service within the LAN or WAN is pretty normal these days. Sometimes u don even know it's being use cause it's configure at software level or through os level. Doesn't mean it doesn't exist...

 

[hanlsnx]

QoS is not loosely used in here - it just means a general term of the preferred priority of service in this context.

Unless u wish to classified deeply into which layer 2 or 3 and header u want to encapsulate (end to end). Otherwise I see nothing wrong in using qos in here. Anyway even layer 7 can be prioritize these days e.g. Cisco NBAR or sonicwall appflow... I can go on and on.... But that's not the point.

U r not the only person here that knows all these technical jargons... So don presume ur knowledge can pwned and label everyone as hilarious or retarded... It just makes u look damn silly as well... Lol

LOL .. First of all for a proper implementation for QoS you need a fully controlled network.

Name something that can do QoS/CoS over an uncontrolled network. SonicWall NSA NGFW??? Please dun bother what Cisco router i turn on the CoS diffserv makes it CoS?

You entire infra must be aware of how to prioritize packs and obey those rules. The issues is fundamental. End To End control is needed. To prioritization and de-prioritization packets on your gateway has no significant impact in network experience. If it has please show me empirical evidence (I really want to be proven wrong BTW)

HAVING CONFIGURED IT DOESNT MEAN IT WORKS ... LOL what have you implemented? If you have done some successfully please feel free to contact me via PM i have a job offer for you

I am one of the folk responsible for throttling your traffic @ ISP level... i know the **** u folks are doing is futile.

Try googling sandvine and allot

Lets just get back to dissing this stupid marketing thread shall we?

 

[koicafex]

bkbk~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

[muddle]

Man, i wont go around tellin ppl i am responsible for this or that. But thats just me lol.

 

[koicafex]

he want to act big mah
got inferior complex
never act big feel like a mouse

 

[hanlsnx]

Hilarious still

QoS is not loosely used in here - it just means a general term of the preferred priority of service in this context.

Makes me laugh harder

 

[Op_Valkyrie]

LOL .. First of all for a proper implementation for QoS you need a fully controlled network.

Name something that can do QoS/CoS over an uncontrolled network. SonicWall NSA NGFW??? Please dun bother what Cisco router i turn on the CoS diffserv makes it CoS?

You entire infra must be aware of how to prioritize packs and obey those rules. The issues is fundamental. End To End control is needed. To prioritization and de-prioritization packets on your gateway has no significant impact in network experience. If it has please show me empirical evidence (I really want to be proven wrong BTW)

HAVING CONFIGURED IT DOESNT MEAN IT WORKS ... LOL what have you implemented? If you have done some successfully please feel free to contact me via PM i have a job offer for you

I am one of the folk responsible for throttling your traffic @ ISP level... i know the **** u folks are doing is futile.

Try googling sandvine and allot

Lets just get back to dissing this stupid marketing thread shall we?

Hilarious still



Makes me laugh harder

U really is damn joker....

Talking about discussing on the marketing but digress the topic yourself by acting pro... And yes I do architect network for corp which I can go on and on but I'm charged for professional services, are u paying me now for my solution...? Haha

Thanks for your job offer but I have comfortable job now... And I don wish to work with an egoistic keyboard warrior. Lol

Should not feed the troll from now on....

 

[sHrike]

Engineers are most poorly paid no matter how high up u are...so stop showing off

 

[royfrosty]

Chill bro.

 

[hanlsnx]

U really is damn joker....

Talking about discussing on the marketing but digress the topic yourself by acting pro... And yes I do architect network for corp which I can go on and on but I'm charged for professional services, are u paying me now for my solution...? Haha

Thanks for your job offer but I have comfortable job now... And I don wish to work with an egoistic keyboard warrior. Lol

Should not feed the troll from now on....

 

[crystalnox]

Personally I would take Intel's proven hardware expertise over some software optimised QOS.

 

[Piezoq]

Check out the pricier boards like Asus's Deluxe or Maximus.

All use Intel NICs.

Asus sticks Realtek into their lower end offerings at the <$200-250 range.

 

[crystalnox]

Realtek throughput is decent though, I transfer files from one desktop to another, both Realtek gbe through a Realtek(also) gbe switch, can sustain >92MB/s. Limit could actually be due to HDD write speeds.

Latency wise, the biggest improvement would be having the servers in SG.

 

[stan216]

asus representative over here got shot all over from every direction

 

[smallchoco]

asus representative over here got shot all over from every direction

asus is right. i now using gigabyte board with intel lan and i find it more stable compare to my friend board which uses killer lan.

My friend using MSI board with killer lan already rma 2 times at corbell less than 5 months.

corbell engineer didn't explain to him what wrong with the board and just replace a new board for my friend.

RMA history:
1st. Internet keeps disconnecting, check with ISP and no issue with the router or internet. After few week totally can't detect killer lan on device manager.

2nd. Motherboard stuck at bios screen and not working

 

[crystalnox]

asus is right. i now using gigabyte board with intel lan and i find it more stable compare to my friend board which uses killer lan.

My friend using MSI board with killer lan already rma 2 times at corbell less than 5 months.

corbell engineer didn't explain to him what wrong with the board and just replace a new board for my friend.

RMA history:
1st. Internet keeps disconnecting, check with ISP and no issue with the router or internet. After few week totally can't detect killer lan on device manager.

2nd. Motherboard stuck at bios screen and not working

So killerlan is actually worst off than Realtek? I've never had problems with the ubiquitous Realtek, neither have any of my friends.

 

[Piezoq]

asus is right. i now using gigabyte board with intel lan and i find it more stable compare to my friend board which uses killer lan.

My friend using MSI board with killer lan already rma 2 times at corbell less than 5 months.

corbell engineer didn't explain to him what wrong with the board and just replace a new board for my friend.

RMA history:
1st. Internet keeps disconnecting, check with ISP and no issue with the router or internet. After few week totally can't detect killer lan on device manager.

2nd. Motherboard stuck at bios screen and not working

I won't buy Killer Lan, or MSI, for that matter.

I'll pay a premium for Asus and Intel, spec for spec.

 

[dqwong]

Just my 2 cents on this topic. Please kindly flame me if you think my opinion is wrong.

Intel:
Everyone recommends Intel NICs(just Google). They are rock stable and won't crash even under the most heaviest loads. There's a reason why they cost a whole lot more than other brands and that's because Intel hardware design is top notch and they have one of the best software documentation and support in the industry. Driver can be extensively tuned either for performance or reduce cpu usage or balance of both. In a nutshell you won't go wrong with Intel.

Realtek:
Back in the days of Windows XP/Vista, PCI based Realtek 10/100 controllers were "notorious" for all sorts of network connectivity issues like slow speed, random disconnects or web site not loading. Operating System included drivers if not updated to latest version usually resulted in very poor performance. Flow control and Auto Negotiation often caused alot of performance issues.

However, modern day PCI-E Realtek 1GBe Controllers integrated into most consumer grade systems are actually very good and stable for most home/SOHO usage. They are just as fast as Intel or other brands in terms of throughput and all features like TOE and Checksum offloading are working fine for most usage. However their driver feature set, open-source operating support/features and documentation isn't as good as Intel. If you plan on running a system for mission critical, the general internet opinion is: Don't use Realtek.

Atheros Killer NIC:
What's the point of having a NIC that has increased CPU utilization?

Broadcom NIC:
They are generally fine for normal use, however TOE can cause NIC to stop functioning under very heavy connection load.

 

[dqwong]

I will be pitting an Intel external PCIex NIC against the onboard MSI G45 "killer NIC e2200" and running it through various games to see if one is clearly better than the other, this will be done via testing through frame latency across 3 different games with 80 second runs to see if one is more consistent than the other. I will also test the Software vs No Software for people who are wondering if it makes a difference or not. So hopefully that should answer the question of "Does the onboard killer NIC software really work?"

 

[shadow84]

The intel PCIe 9301CT cost $30 in amazon sia... Tempted to get 1 and try out.

Btw, my mobo uses the following,

- Gigabit LAN 10/100/1000 Mb/s
- Giga PHY Intel® I217V

Can still presume its intel lan?