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Currently working on making available past days' hourly PM2.5 chart. Having some challenge due to NEA reporting 1am-12am, making my chart all short of the last reading... zzz...wanna kun liao so continue another day.
Can only select back to 1 Oct coz then's when I started saving ("curl"ing) the data.
 

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Cool. Actually I think the readings are still coming in, just may not be updated until after the downtime.

1am reading appear on websai liao. Site still avail.
All regions still in unhealthy range. Hardly any wind as per wunderground.
 
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1am reading appear on websai liao. Site still avail.
All regions still in unhealthy range. Hardly any wind as per wunderground.

If this continues, it's going to be dua zhong already. You don't need PSI 401 transients to cause issues.

And this present haze compared to yesterday at 6AM is very much different. When I walked out of the room (same air con and air purifier room) there was a noticeable smell. Right now, nothing. Opened the windows and popped my head out there, there is no smoky smell.

In fact there is this fresh nature smell that's typical of early mornings!! :s13::s13:
But it's 61ug/m3 PSI 106 AQI 154 here. :s11:
 

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If this continues, it's going to be dua zhong already. You don't need PSI 401 transients to cause issues.

And this present haze compared to yesterday at 6AM is very much different. When I walked out of the room (same air con and air purifier room) there was a noticeable smell. Right now, nothing. Opened the windows and popped my head out there, there is no smoky smell.

In fact there is this fresh nature smell that's typical of early mornings!! :s13::s13:
But it's 61ug/m3 PSI 106 AQI 154 here. :s11:
but my throat and nose is feeling it. Left my room (aircon + purifier) to kitchen, now having coughing fits.
 

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but my throat and nose is feeling it. Left my room (aircon + purifier) to kitchen, now having coughing fits.

That means you could be in the moderate to even severely Sensitive Group.

I'm probably the very mildly Sensitive Group. Sometimes even no symptoms.

But remember to air your whole house once or twice a day for 5 mins even with the device gunning 24/7, there could be some VOCs or stuff that can accumulate that even the Activated Charcoal in the purifier that can't adsorb.

Those stuff can cause allergies and headaches.
 

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I just got an lg air purifier and it has a button which turns red, i guess whenever there's a smell in the room cause it has an odor sensor.

Initially i thought it was just a gimmick, since it would auto turn red whenever i plug in and switch on the unit. After 5mins, it would turn white and remain like that the rest of the time.

2 days ago i moved the set to my bedroom, switched on the aircon as well and slept. In the morning i saw it switching colors between white and red, don't know its bcuz my aircon air is dirty or because i opened the window.

Yesterday night after 2am i turned on the purifier with my aircon and this time round i can clearly see the light turning red all the way. I switched to turbo mode for a long while and yet the light was red. I switched off the aircon, windows remain closed and after awhile the light turned back to white and remained like that all the way.

So - this sensor is telling me my aircon air is bad or is it just the haze acting up? 2 days ago the light was still mostly white during the night leh.

The sensors sometimes kee siao or are set at too sensitive a level.

I know the Novita 501 has extremely sensors set at extreme thresholds. Just a wee bit becomes red already.

The Sharp, Samsungs are ok. Try to wriggle your blanket near it, the LEDs should respond.

I know my Sharp KC-840 is pretty accurate in telling the air quality. Last year's PSI 401 vs this year's 100+ haze, can see the difference (there are 6 levels).


Different devices will behave very differently.

Don't worry too much, it'll work. Wanna see how it works, if you have a LED flashlight, shine at the ceiling and open the windows 1/4. Put your flashlight near the window and you'll see smoke coming in. Not a joke, you will see this. Of course you'd need to do this at a window in which wind is blowing in and not blowing out (Depending on the wind dir

Another trick I like to do is to use a flashlight or laser (be v v careful) and shine it at the air purifier's output. On hazy days, you can see the clean air blowing out maciam the exhaust of an airplane's turbofan, something like that. :D
 
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Really just terrible weather out there. Really feel for those without airconditioning and/or air purifiers. (obviously you can't even wear the least resistance 85% FFP-1 mask with exhaust valve for such long periods)

Even with air purifiers and air conditioning, there are times in which I gotta run errands out there and cook in the kitchen.
Think need to wear N95 later when I go NTUC again liao.

Very slight headache now.

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I tried waving the blanket around the purifier, no change leh. Actually previously i waved a sweaty shirt at the sensor. Also no reaction. Its quite alarming to see the usually calm purifier act like that. Maybe i will try switching on the aircon again tonight and see what happens.

HEh heh...just click on the URL in my signature lah. 1-hr readings in ug/m3 and 1-hr PSI (not 3-hr moving average).
 

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On the weather radar, I saw some rain at the extreme north side.

Peninsula Malaysia has been raining with quite a few big patches.

Jambi no rain. Palembang also no rain.

See the big Malaysian weather radar here with huge coverage

http://www.met.gov.my/index.php?option=com_weathersatellite&purpose=RADAR-MALAYSIA&Itemid=911


Good morning bros!

Ya end up didn't rain last nite :(

Went to beo the aqicn site - left portion the big big number says 134 but when u swipe to the right the number says 152?

So the 152 is the average for the day so far issit?
 

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Good morning bros!

Ya end up didn't rain last nite :(

Went to beo the aqicn site - left portion the big big number says 134 but when u swipe to the right the number says 152?

So the 152 is the average for the day so far issit?

Nope, the thingy didn't refresh. Press F5 or use another browser and press F5.

Or you go to Chuanz's page. 1hr PSI, 1hr AQI (need to mouse over) and 1hr concentration...all got.

But anyway it's clearing. Wind has been blowing from ESE, N and NE for the past 5hrs.
 

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The sensors sometimes kee siao or are set at too sensitive a level.

I know the Novita 501 has extremely sensors set at extreme thresholds. Just a wee bit becomes red already.

The Sharp, Samsungs are ok. Try to wriggle your blanket near it, the LEDs should respond.

I know my Sharp KC-840 is pretty accurate in telling the air quality. Last year's PSI 401 vs this year's 100+ haze, can see the difference (there are 6 levels).


Different devices will behave very differently.

Don't worry too much, it'll work. Wanna see how it works, if you have a LED flashlight, shine at the ceiling and open the windows 1/4. Put your flashlight near the window and you'll see smoke coming in. Not a joke, you will see this. Of course you'd need to do this at a window in which wind is blowing in and not blowing out (Depending on the wind dir

Another trick I like to do is to use a flashlight or laser (be v v careful) and shine it at the air purifier's output. On hazy days, you can see the clean air blowing out maciam the exhaust of an airplane's turbofan, something like that. :D

just bought a LG purifer too. hope it doesn't come that problem :)

I have a samsung purifer and sometimes have that problem. It might be a dusty sensor cap. Go clean it with a cotton bud.

and yes, opening window will turn the sensor crazy. the volumn of air coming in and the purifer will clean it. The other issue could be your room already have bad smell coming from somewhere. Clothes ? drawers ?
 

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Yep...hotyrole is correct. Can try cleaning it with a cotton bud.


Past 5 hrs blowing from the other side. This signals the very initial phase of the intermonsoon season for Singapore.

South Sumatra (Palembang) 2 weeks later or so. Jambi should be starting soon also.

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A concerned parent-to-be PMed to ask if the risk to the fetus or kids is really that high.
Seriously, this kind of things I can't also answer with any SOLID degree of certainty, but seriously the cheapest air purifier Sharp A28 is just $99.
Just get two units, perhaps?


Just a quick google, can't seem to find the stuff that I googled last year.

But note, these studies are done at higher concentrations, particulate matter are urban of nature and differ from haze (biomass), and also longer term. So don't have to be overly concerned as long as you are mindful and take precautions beginning from now into the future for childhood.

Air Pollution Impacts on Infants and Children,* UCLA Institute of the Environment and Sustainability


The time between conception and birth is perhaps one of the most vulnerable life stages, during which the environment may have tremendous immediate and lasting effects on health. The fetus undergoes rapid growth and organ development and the maternal environment helps direct these processes, for better or for worse (Figure 1). Evidence is accumulating that environmental exposures can cause infants to be born premature (before 37 weeks of gestation) or low weight (less than 2500 grams, or 5.5 pounds), or to be born with certain birth defects. These babies are far more likely to die in infancy, and those who survive have high risks of brain, respiratory, and digestive problems in early life. The impact of environmental exposures on fetal development may be far-reaching, as data suggest growth and developmental delays in utero influence the risk for heart disease and diabetes in adulthood.

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Early childhood is also a critical period for the continued development and maturation of several biological systems such as the brain, lung, and immune system and air toxics can impair lung function and neurodevelopment, or exacerbate existing conditions, such as asthma (Figure 2). Infants who were born premature or growth-retarded may be particularly vulnerable to additional environmental insults, for example, due to immaturity of the lungs at birth.

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Exactly what compounds in the ambient air most affect reproductive and children's health, and how these exposures result in restricted fetal growth, early parturition, and development of respiratory diseases remains largely unknown. The study of air pollution's impact on reproductive outcomes is still a developing area of science with many important questions unanswered, but more evidence is emerging that air pollution exposures in pregnancy and early childhood put children at higher risk of adverse health outcomes. Despite the long history of research linking smoking to poorer birth outcomes and the known similarities in components of cigarette smoke and air pollution, the bulk of all air pollution research targeting reproductive health has been conducted only in the past decade. Recently this research has begun to focus on one specific source of modern-day air pollution -- traffic exhaust.

IMPACT OF AIR POLLUTION ON CHILDREN'S RESPIRATORY HEALTH

There are several biological reasons why young children may be more susceptible to air pollution's effects. Children's lungs, immune system, and brain are immature at birth and continue to rapidly develop until approximately age 6, and the cell layer lining the inside of the respiratory tract is particularly permeable during this age period. Compared to adults, children also have a larger lung surface area in relation to their body weight, and breathe 50% more air per kilogram of body weight. The process of early growth and development is important for the health of the child in general, and therefore may also be a critical time when air pollution exposures can have lasting effects on future health. Additionally, children tend to spend more time outdoors doing strenuous activities, such as playing sports, so they are breathing more outdoor air compared to adults, who spend on average about 90% of their time indoors.
 

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Currently working on making available past days' hourly PM2.5 chart. Having some challenge due to NEA reporting 1am-12am, making my chart all short of the last reading... zzz...wanna kun liao so continue another day.
Can only select back to 1 Oct coz then's when I started saving ("curl"ing) the data.

Done with this!
 

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AIR QUALITY DURING HAZE EPISODES AND ITS IMPACT ON HEALTH

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depts.washington.edu/wildfire/resources/Chapter101.doc

There are only a limited number of studies directly evaluating the community health impacts of air pollution from vegetation fires, such as those that affected Southeast Asia in 1997 and 1998. In this chapter we describe the available information regarding air pollutant concentrations during “haze” episodes in Southeast Asia and use available data from the literature to discuss the potential population health impacts of the resulting exposures.

The size of particulates produced in vegetation fires is an important factor in understanding potential health risks. Only smaller particles (PM10) are inhaled and have the potential to cause adverse health impacts. Respirable particles (PM2.5) penetrate into the lower respiratory tract and may present increased risk. Due to the size distribution of biomass particulates, essentially all will be contained in the PM2.5 fraction, while the PM10 fraction will include additional particulates from resuspension of soil and ash. Biomass combustion particulate is typically smaller than 1 µm, with a peak in the size distribution between 0.15 and 0.4 µm



HEPA can handle this range absolutely fine, no worries.
 

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The Ministry of Environment of Singapore developed recommendations for mask use during biomass air pollution episodes (24 Sep 97, http://www.gov.sg/env/sprd/Rel-Mask.htm).

These recommendations suggest that surgical and other similar masks are not useful in preventing the inhalation of fine particles as they are not efficient in the filtration of particles of less than 10 µm, such as those present in biomass smoke. Accordingly, use of these masks may provide a false sense of wellbeing to the users.

The recommendations also suggest that respirators (which include some types of dust masks) are able to filter 80% to 99% of particles between 0.2 and 0.4 µm. The recommendations indicate that respirators may be useful, but are uncomfortable and increase the effort of breathing. The recommendations also suggest that during periods of intense air pollution, it would be better for the public to avoid outdoor activity than to put on a mask and stay outdoors for prolonged periods. However, for those who cannot avoid going outdoors, the use of respirators would provide some relief.
 

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Hi experts,

Anyone has any guide on how to upgrade the air purifier's filter to a HEPA filter?
 

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Hi guys,

Need recommendation between Novita and sharp air purifier.
Currently novita having promo that come with additional filters and 3yrs warranty for NAP611. Thinking of getting 2 set that best come humidifier if possible.

Which will be more value for money in terms of long term consumption etc filters price and electrical loading

Thanks guys pls advise.
 
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