The Hair Thread - Part 3

[deaththeorist]

yeah. my hair is not very long and if conditioner touches the scalp does it cause dandruff?

No. 10 char

 

[gaoxing84]

Song bo expensive means real and quality! Come I sell 100 for one. Free shipping

Ok I take it! 10 years no need buy shampoo hahaha

 

[gaoxing84]

yea. but leejhong's one is showing japanese on the sticker too.

Share? The Japanese sticker one.

 

[Erwinlow]

May I ask, if I use, say the by vilain gold digger, it washes off quite easily, should I shampoo my hair or is it not really needed? My friends say they don't shampoo everytime else their hair feels very dry. Any truth in that?

 

[x3dnd3x]

Ok I take it! 10 years no need buy shampoo hahaha

I think he meant $100 for 1 bottle of Kanebo.

 

[gaoxing84]

I think he meant $100 for 1 bottle of Kanebo.

Haha buy alr. No money buy shampoo ma haha need slowly use

 

[gaoxing84]

Just checked mine. JH's sticker is also in chinese. Tbh i doubt there's fake shampoo. I believe the fakes, if any, are likely oem versions, or licensing in different regions.

That's true. Or maybe it's the same after all or just different price segments but same products. Like toothpaste is cheaper for Malaysia than Sg stocks

 

[snoopchow24]

If possible, the back content picture.

Here you go. I think all are the same. But my cost is not crazily high. I just earn lesser

 

[iV3RsOn]

Just checked mine. JH's sticker is also in chinese. Tbh i doubt there's fake shampoo. I believe the fakes, if any, are likely oem versions, or licensing in different regions.

Anyway for myself I've already moved on from kanebo and found an awesome OTR shampoo from guardian that easily removes wax, clay etc.

Y u no sic???

Sent from my heart~~~ using GAGT

 

[leejhong]

Can JH post his own stock for verification? The back of the shampoo and we compare?
And Pls let us know if yours is kanebo/vogne/Qinye?
Why suddenly name change? Was it even kanebo from start? Or it was vogne?

I can get my gf sister to check with Kao Singapore because she works there as a marketing assistant.
If it's not available locally, maybe can check with their HQ in Japan? I don't want JH to get cheated by supplier leh.

Thanks for your concern. But as i mentioned previously in my earlier posts, vogne shampoo is not associated with Kanebo or Kao Corporation in any way. U can go back and read it again.

Anyway, The sticker is in chinese too but it is not imprinted with china manufacturer at the bottom, as seen in other screenshots. To be honest, the choice is yours if you feel that u wish to go for another source. There is nothing that i can do to stop but what i can assure is that vogne shampoo is something that i had been carrying and bringing in from a reliable source. There can be many cheaper sources but i chose not to. It is not the money that is the concern over here. If u have ur means to validate that it is a decent shampoo, by all means go ahead and use it. For those who feel safer purchasing from me, i welcome with open arms. Cheers.

 

[3xistence]

Share? The Japanese sticker one.

I lost the picture liao. it was based on memory that i saw it.

 

[3xistence]

Thanks for your concern. But as i mentioned previously in my earlier posts, vogne shampoo is not associated with Kanebo or Kao Corporation in any way. U can go back and read it again.

Anyway, The sticker is in chinese too but it is not imprinted with china manufacturer at the bottom, as seen in other screenshots. To be honest, the choice is yours if you feel that u wish to go for another source. There is nothing that i can do to stop but what i can assure is that vogne shampoo is something that i had been carrying and bringing in from a reliable source. There can be many cheaper sources but i chose not to. It is not the money that is the concern over here. If u have ur means to validate that it is a decent shampoo, by all means go ahead and use it. For those who feel safer purchasing from me, i welcome with open arms. Cheers.

Hmm.. is it? maybe i remember wrongly. the sticker become 'nua' after awhile. Anyway, leejhong, the link for pictures on your thread are dead. Cannot see pictures liao.

 

[gaoxing84]

Thanks for your concern. But as i mentioned previously in my earlier posts, vogne shampoo is not associated with Kanebo or Kao Corporation in any way. U can go back and read it again.

Anyway, The sticker is in chinese too but it is not imprinted with china manufacturer at the bottom, as seen in other screenshots. To be honest, the choice is yours if you feel that u wish to go for another source. There is nothing that i can do to stop but what i can assure is that vogne shampoo is something that i had been carrying and bringing in from a reliable source. There can be many cheaper sources but i chose not to. It is not the money that is the concern over here. If u have ur means to validate that it is a decent shampoo, by all means go ahead and use it. For those who feel safer purchasing from me, i welcome with open arms. Cheers.

Ya I know. But the question is why it was call kanebo first? And suddenly it was taken down at your site and then change name to vogne. I think the supplier owns you a explanation and you kinda own us past customers a explanation too don't you think? Are we over paying for a product made in China or we are on the right track of a Japanese product made and imported from Japan which was told by you to us when you started selling this product.

Now is not the problem if I am going to a cheaper source. If you can explain why as per stated on top clearly. Of course I will support you in all ways cause you're legit.
To me price isn't a problem if the item is legit but we need to know what we are paying for.
What is the difference between your supplier stock and taobao stock?
Made in China or made in Japan?
What is the exact brand for these shampoo?
You can't simply change the product branding overnight right?
If it's really kanebo, branded of course it justifies the price right?
But it's a China brand but made in Japan why not?
But if it's a China brand but made in China, then why in the first place you told us is imported from Japan?

Just a little confused here. Because I also do recommend my customers to buy from you and I don't want us to have a bad name.

Anyway both the cheaper source and your source have a imprinted brand call Qinye with a piano as logo. Take a look man. You maybe cheated.
Just helping a friend out here but if you're so defensive then no choice lo
Cheers

 

[leejhong]

Ya I know. But the question is why it was call kanebo first? And suddenly it was taken down at your site and then change name to vogne. I think the supplier owns you a explanation and you kinda own us past customers a explanation too don't you think? Are we over paying for a product made in China or we are on the right track of a Japanese product made and imported from Japan which was told by you to us when you started selling this product.

Now is not the problem if I am going to a cheaper source. If you can explain why as per stated on top clearly. Of course I will support you in all ways cause you're legit.
To me price isn't a problem if the item is legit but we need to know what we are paying for.
What is the difference between your supplier stock and taobao stock?
Made in China or made in Japan?
What is the exact brand for these shampoo?
You can't simply change the product branding overnight right?
If it's really kanebo, branded of course it justifies the price right?
But it's a China brand but made in Japan why not?
But if it's a China brand but made in China, then why in the first place you told us is imported from Japan?

Just a little confused here. Because I also do recommend my customers to buy from you and I don't want us to have a bad name.

Anyway both the cheaper source and your source have a imprinted brand call Qinye with a piano as logo. Take a look man. You maybe cheated.
Just helping a friend out here but if you're so defensive then no choice lo
Cheers

Yup no worries and i thank you previously for your concern. So not being defensive in any way. Just saying that you have no obligations to buy from me and i have rights to force you too, isnt it?.

If i am not wrong, i did mentioned before on what you said before. You can refer to what i typed below. For your easier reference.

"As we had recently received several similar feedbacks on this issue, we had then looked into this and understood from our supplier that the product has never been associated with Kanebo in any way. As such, the name is now changed to Vogne for greater clarity and to prevent any further confusions.

On this, we would like to apologise for any misunderstanding caused. At the same time, we would like to assure you guys that there is no change in product content or quality. Just the name change and its still the same awesome product like what gx mentioned! Anw, for any further questions, please feel free to text/call me anytime."

The vogne shampoo that i got is from Japan. This is what was being communicated to me from my supplier. U might be right that i am cheated but till now, i trust what i was being told. Be it from Japan or China, if one dont feel safe buying, then buy from another alternative avenue. This is how it works. Thats all i want to say and there is no need for me to be defensive about it too. Haha cheers!

 

[leejhong]

Ya I know. But the question is why it was call kanebo first? And suddenly it was taken down at your site and then change name to vogne. I think the supplier owns you a explanation and you kinda own us past customers a explanation too don't you think? Are we over paying for a product made in China or we are on the right track of a Japanese product made and imported from Japan which was told by you to us when you started selling this product.

Now is not the problem if I am going to a cheaper source. If you can explain why as per stated on top clearly. Of course I will support you in all ways cause you're legit.
To me price isn't a problem if the item is legit but we need to know what we are paying for.
What is the difference between your supplier stock and taobao stock?
Made in China or made in Japan?
What is the exact brand for these shampoo?
You can't simply change the product branding overnight right?
If it's really kanebo, branded of course it justifies the price right?
But it's a China brand but made in Japan why not?
But if it's a China brand but made in China, then why in the first place you told us is imported from Japan?

Just a little confused here. Because I also do recommend my customers to buy from you and I don't want us to have a bad name.

Anyway both the cheaper source and your source have a imprinted brand call Qinye with a piano as logo. Take a look man. You maybe cheated.
Just helping a friend out here but if you're so defensive then no choice lo
Cheers

Anyway, here's the uploaded image of the back of the vogne shampoo that i am carrying. How one wish to intepret is up to oneself. I cannot comment on other sources but what i can do is to say that this is brought in from my source which i trust reliably thus far. This is not to prove that the one i am carrying is more superior or something but just to share with you guys more if there is a need to find out more. The reason why this product was even brought in was because i used it myself and i find it good. Just sharing these decent products which i liked, with the community of people here. Throughout the 2 years that TPJ was set up, i hope i earn the trust of the people who transacted with me. If i did not, i apologise again. But for the bros who have faith in me, i thank you again for the support and assurance that was given to me all these while. Ultimately, i am just a small reseller with a small shop name whom i guess only the people here will hear about it. So, as honest as i can be, there is no need to lie about it. Cheers

 

[leejhong]

May I ask, if I use, say the by vilain gold digger, it washes off quite easily, should I shampoo my hair or is it not really needed? My friends say they don't shampoo everytime else their hair feels very dry. Any truth in that?

Whenever you use styling products, it is only basic hygiene that these impurities have to be cleansed off and removed properly. Hence, you have to shampoo it everytime u style. If you did not, you may reduce your frequency of washing but for myself, i style everyday unless if i did not go out, then i will not wash my hair that day, depending on the activities too.

If you stop washing the hair because the hair is dry, then it is a big NO NO. Simply because you can get hydration and moisture from conditioner. Shampoo's main responsibility is cleansing and in some cases, some provide bonuses of additional hydration (e.g. vogne or pote shampo). Conditioner's main responsibilities are not only to provide hydration, but to replenish the loss of proteins from the hair and it targets the cortex layer (main layer) whereas shampoo targets the cuticle (outermost) layer. So please get your friends and yourself to wash their hair everytime they style. This can be related to females applying makeover on their faces but didnt remove with makeup remover. U can do so but it will hit back at you one fine day when all your pores are clogged.

 

[leejhong]

yeah. my hair is not very long and if conditioner touches the scalp does it cause dandruff?

Conditioner is usually oily. Because of the contents in it, it is sometimes used to remove hard-to-wash-away styling products on the hair. Because it is oily, it is often discouraged to let the conditioner get in contact with the scalp directly as there is possibility that it might clog the pores. Especially for people with sensitive scalp.

Dandruff, on the other hand, is usually created when the scalp is dry. The flakes are created due to the peel off from the scalp and it is usually not caused by conditioner getting in touch with the scalp. I might be wrong too but this is what i understand.

 

[leejhong]

by vilain skyline breeze shampoo/conditioner 250ml for $24-$26 - paraben-free
vogne aka kanebo aka qinye shampoo/conditioner 800ml for $34 - contains Paraben
carbolic ORGANIC shampoo/conditioner 420ml for $25 - contains Methylparaben
pote natural ORGANIC shampoo 768ml for $34 - likely to contain paraben but unable to find this product info at all besides from TPJ web.

So which 1 to choose?

Buy one which suits your needs, bro. Some serves distinct purposes while some serve more generic purposes. Nowadays i am using more of carbolic as the weather nowadays is very hot. Using it to perform deep cleansing and to give myself a more refreshing feel after shower.

Pote is manufactured in China and it is repackaged. I always make it a point to make clear about the source if i am aware of it so on this, i apologise as i really couldnt find the ingredients involved. But so far, it is a decent shampoo that i have to say. More importantly, it has to be something that you are okay with buying.

 

[3xistence]

I apologise if i did cause any unhappiness here. i was sharing my experience of getting it from tb cause there was a period leejhong stop carrying kanebo and letting the people here know that theres a difference in packaging.

 

[leejhong]

currently using bodyshop ginger shampoo.. saw a video that says washing hair every 2 days is better. i started washing every 2 days and a lot dandruff started to form.. any solution?

It varies across people due to the different factors involved. If you are a blue collar, washing once per 2days will get personal hygiene into the picture. If you're a white collar, perhaps it's possible but it is also influenced by other factors. Try using another shampoo in the meantime. Your scalp is peeling and the flakes are created - dandruff. Many reasons and i am definitely not up to those standards to say why. But common sense would tell us that it might be not suitable or you might need some changes to how you use it - reduce frequency etc.