[2023] Apple Vision Pro Discusssion Thread

[bluerhino]

I think most people just dont like mounting something that large on their head for hours at a time. Very niche product. My 2 cents. USA only when it initially launches though.

This is the first version. Eventually it will get smaller and smaller till the size of a typical pair of wraparound sunglasses.

 

[endlssorrow]

I don’t think many will buy la
$5k that’s crazy price man
Buy laptop better

 

[reddevil0728]

I don’t think many will buy la
$5k that’s crazy price man
Buy laptop better

First gen will attract enthusiasts, not the masses

 

[limmk]

 

[elvintay07]

https://www.gizchina.com/2023/06/12...on-pro-name-in-china-apple-may-face-troubles/

Aiya, just pay them royalty fees lo. Just like Apple Pay > $100m to Creative for simi MP3 patent. It is not about who owns what name but who has the power to generate more revenue

 

[limmk]

 

[szeli]

 

[Ray1976]

Until more developers are on board to create more apps that can utilise the Vision OS, I just can't see myself getting this. Price is one thing but the apps which will determine the utility is equally important as well. But I do see the future of computing going "spatial" where we will no longer be bound to our desks to get things done. Thanks to Apple for letting us have a glimpse of the future.

 

[Computeron]

if I have I sure wear it n walk into Apple Store at orchard...lol

 

[limmk]

 

[elvintay07]

Forget about Singapore la. They will complain why can’t side load and no 3D porn.

 

[Ray1976]

I'm wearing specs and Apple is making it difficult for me to get this new product. For now, you will need to have an optician certification from the US for Apple's lens partner, Zeiss to even make the custom len insert possible. What the heck!

I have been reading up on the Vision Pro reviews and realize there are ways to overcome the limitations. At the current stage, Vision Pro is a half-baked product but I am pretty sure Apple will continue to improve on the Vision OS in the next one year.

 

[lordlad0]

I was in Boston last week so i Booked an appointment in the Apple Store for a 1-to-1 private demo of the Apple Vision Pro. As a VR enthusiast for the past decade, here are some of my thoughts:

- Pixel density is definitely the highest of the current consumer headsets I've experienced though it's not that big of a jump coming from the Meta Quest 2/3 and PlayStation VR2.

- It supports eyeball tracking and supposedly foveated rendering like the PlayStation VR2 which both the Quest 2 & 3 lacks. Tracks pretty accurate when using it to pinpoint objects.

- The augmented/mixed reality aspect is definitely much better than all the headsets I've tried. PlayStation VR2 & Quest 2 only supports black & white passthrough, Quest 3 colored passthrough is full of 'wobbly' artefacts when near the edge. Because of this, the gesture interface is fast & responsive

- screendoor effect is almost non-existent, solving a problem that plagues most current consumer headset.

- The fit with the default head strap is pretty terrible, almost as bad if not worse than the default quest 2 head strap. Due to the default head strap being just a fiber rubber strap with no weights, the entire thing is front heavy with no balance. This thing is gonna cause some stiff necks unless you fork out more money for a pro strap. I've used so many headsets through the years and this is like the bottom of the tier in terms of comfort. Apple definitely sacrificed comfort so that their headset can look 'hip'.

- the dangling battery pack looks ridiculous no matter how you look at it. This thing is definitely going back to the drawing board when or if there's a vision pro 2.

- panaromic photos and 3D videos performed as good as expected and definitely can be extremely impressive for new time VR/AR users but for VR veterans like myself already consuming such experiences for years, the media experience is up to par but not mind-blowing.

All in all, it's a decent first effort from apple and i will probably haul this hunk back to Singapore if not for the ridiculous asking price of USD3500. This thing is just too expensive for it to be accepted for the regular joe. Even an early adopter of new tech such as myself can't justify buying it as the current price, especially when there's barely an games for it. No beat saber, no resident evil 8 VR no half life alyx, no google earth VR. With its narrow use case of being an only 3D media consumption device or maybe a macbook centric extended workspace for silicon valley hipsters, the apple vision pro at its current iteration will be destined to be an even more niche product than existing VR/AR headsets.

A few things for apple to fix:

- incorporate the battery pack to the headset and bapance out the weight

- open the device so that it can interface with windows/android (highly unlikely to happen going by apple past behavior)

- the price.... seriously, not everyone can drop USD3500 for a niche device with such a narrow use case.

All in all, i came out of the demo feeling the same way exactly what i think it's going to be before I tried it. Strictly for consumers heavily invested in the apple ecosystem with too much money to spare.

Addendum: I saw a guy walking outside the streets with the Vision Pro...some of these silicon valley bros are out of their minds

 

[Thunderlip]

Vision Pro could launch in Singapore after WWDC (10-14 June).

”the company is training workers from Germany, France, Australia, Japan, South Korea, Singapore and China, indicating that those areas will be some of the first international markets for the device”

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...on-pro-headset-internationally-for-first-time

 

[juliancho]

Now scalpers selling $500 below RRP-FX. Wondering if there are SKU differences between US and SG sets, if not maybe can just buy scalper sets since Apple would probably sell the SG version higher than US RRP-FX.

 

[elvintay07]

I was in Boston last week so i Booked an appointment in the Apple Store for a 1-to-1 private demo of the Apple Vision Pro. As a VR enthusiast for the past decade, here are some of my thoughts:

- Pixel density is definitely the highest of the current consumer headsets I've experienced though it's not that big of a jump coming from the Meta Quest 2/3 and PlayStation VR2.

- It supports eyeball tracking and supposedly foveated rendering like the PlayStation VR2 which both the Quest 2 & 3 lacks. Tracks pretty accurate when using it to pinpoint objects.

- The augmented/mixed reality aspect is definitely much better than all the headsets I've tried. PlayStation VR2 & Quest 2 only supports black & white passthrough, Quest 3 colored passthrough is full of 'wobbly' artefacts when near the edge. Because of this, the gesture interface is fast & responsive

- screendoor effect is almost non-existent, solving a problem that plagues most current consumer headset.

- The fit with the default head strap is pretty terrible, almost as bad if not worse than the default quest 2 head strap. Due to the default head strap being just a fiber rubber strap with no weights, the entire thing is front heavy with no balance. This thing is gonna cause some stiff necks unless you fork out more money for a pro strap. I've used so many headsets through the years and this is like the bottom of the tier in terms of comfort. Apple definitely sacrificed comfort so that their headset can look 'hip'.

- the dangling battery pack looks ridiculous no matter how you look at it. This thing is definitely going back to the drawing board when or if there's a vision pro 2.

- panaromic photos and 3D videos performed as good as expected and definitely can be extremely impressive for new time VR/AR users but for VR veterans like myself already consuming such experiences for years, the media experience is up to par but not mind-blowing.

All in all, it's a decent first effort from apple and i will probably haul this hunk back to Singapore if not for the ridiculous asking price of USD3500. This thing is just too expensive for it to be accepted for the regular joe. Even an early adopter of new tech such as myself can't justify buying it as the current price, especially when there's barely an games for it. No beat saber, no resident evil 8 VR no half life alyx, no google earth VR. With its narrow use case of being an only 3D media consumption device or maybe a macbook centric extended workspace for silicon valley hipsters, the apple vision pro at its current iteration will be destined to be an even more niche product than existing VR/AR headsets.

A few things for apple to fix:

- incorporate the battery pack to the headset and bapance out the weight

- open the device so that it can interface with windows/android (highly unlikely to happen going by apple past behavior)

- the price.... seriously, not everyone can drop USD3500 for a niche device with such a narrow use case.

All in all, i came out of the demo feeling the same way exactly what i think it's going to be before I tried it. Strictly for consumers heavily invested in the apple ecosystem with too much money to spare.

Addendum: I saw a guy walking outside the streets with the Vision Pro...some of these silicon valley bros are out of their minds

US$3,500 is reasonable based on the EDMw bros who earned $30k a month. Seriously today if we are not elite, then just use quest 3 lo.

So far I think quest 3 is reasonable at $700+. I think Apple Vision Pro no matter how steady, shouldn’t cost more than $3,000. But Apple being Apple, they sell super ex. ! Shareholders Huat

 

[tec_geek]

 

[rvyne7]

Despite its high cost and limited practical use, Netflix and YouTube have not acknowledged it yet, so no official apps have been released.

 

[elvintay07]

Despite its high cost and limited practical use, Netflix and YouTube have not acknowledged it yet, so no official apps have been released.

Don’t need both of them. Maybe new content creator

 

[rvyne7]

Don’t need both of them. Maybe new content creator

for my self I can only maximized usage for apple vision pro for entertainment specially when traveling. But yes maybe for others they may find it useful and can afford 5.3k SGD.