$4k budget, full on gaming PC

[timpeh82]

And use a z170? For that price I rather go 1070 sli with x99 platform. And titan X sli??? You know how much is one titan X or not?

top up to $5k if he needs titan X SLi
the way he put it, money is never an issue

 

[stickyex]

Thanks for the recommendation guys.

Isn't sli not worth it? How would titan X sli help?

If need be, i can up my budget to $5k. Planning to overhaul not just PC, but get a good table and gaming chair too. So I'm willing to spend.

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[ZrE0_Cha0s]

Thanks for the recommendation guys.

Isn't sli not worth it? How would titan X sli help?

If need be, i can up my budget to $5k. Planning to overhaul not just PC, but get a good table and gaming chair too. So I'm willing to spend.

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tbh spending on sli titan X with a 34 isn't worth it. should get a triple 4k setup to fully utilize it.

 

[wacko]

Thanks for the recommendation guys.

Isn't sli not worth it? How would titan X sli help?

If need be, i can up my budget to $5k. Planning to overhaul not just PC, but get a good table and gaming chair too. So I'm willing to spend.

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worth or not worth is entirely up to you to decide, as it is subjective. most PC items can be charted as per below, the cost vs performance curve is objective, based on hard figures. but the tolerance zones are unique to each individual, and hence you have to decide for yourself what is acceptable for you.

http://image.slidesharecdn.com/leandesignwithve-090706175726-phpapp01/95/lean-designwith-ve-42-728.jpg?**=1246903144

 

[greatgreenman]

why do people always recommend overrated designer RAM? If you don't care about looks, any budget 2x8gb RAM is enough for running AAA games at max settings, assuming your GPU and CPU are top notch. RAM speed differences is virtually unnoticeable unless you're benchmarking

 

[ragnarok95]

Why don't you just fix a budget and let people here recommend the best for you?

 

[Gattberserk]

And use a z170? For that price I rather go 1070 sli with x99 platform. And titan X sli??? You know how much is one titan X or not?

I thought i was the only one who will pick this choice.


X99 with 1070 sli over z170 with 1080 sli.


The problem with 1080 sli is that the performance different from 1070 sli is even smaller than the different between single 1080 vs 1070. Especially for resolution below 4k.


At time like far cry primal you get even lower performance than a 1070 sli. Which is why 1070 is the best sli for the price.


However for 4k things are different, 1080 sli will shine so is titan xp sli.

 

[Gattberserk]

why do people always recommend overrated designer RAM? If you don't care about looks, any budget 2x8gb RAM is enough for running AAA games at max settings, assuming your GPU and CPU are top notch. RAM speed differences is virtually unnoticeable unless you're benchmarking

Digital foundry prove otherwise. Go see their memory overclock video and fps.

At 3200mhz, games actually give better fps vs 2133 although i believe doesnt apply to every game.


Titan x single gpu is the best you can ever have for a ultra wide 1440p, and a x99 6800k or a z170 6700k for cpu are equally good as well.

Some ppl have raised issue over non-k skylake performance drop especially when using avx instruction. The disabling of pch seem to have caused some inherit problem (including power saving option) although i cant really claim it really the case as i do not own one (smth to do with bclk). You can more google for it.

Again its better to do some research and know what you want. If you dont mind overclocking, it can be done very easily on high end board since everything is just set "auto" and the board will auto clock for you as long as u set the clock speed yourself. (Only applicable for light oc)

Rule of thumb is dont set 200mhz above boost clock especially if you are new to oc and dunwan to read up all the technical term for handling voltages

 

[roylike]

Thanks for the recommendation guys.

Isn't sli not worth it? How would titan X sli help?

If need be, i can up my budget to $5k. Planning to overhaul not just PC, but get a good table and gaming chair too. So I'm willing to spend.

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SLI scaling is all over the place. You can have one game that scales extremely well, one game that you hardly get any increase and some games like Gears of War 4 that actually perform worse with SLI enabled compared with a single card. This situation will likely get worse with DX12.

A single GPU is always the best solution but if you mostly play games that scale well then it can be worth it - whether it is or not is 100pct subjective.

You seem to have a long shopping list so I would absolutely suggest to go for a single card and then spend your money first on other items. To keep your options open get a PSU that would be capable of providing enough power for two cards and you can always add a second GPU further down the line if/when you want...

 

[royfrosty]

I think mostly the recommendations here doesnt seems to conclude anything lol.

Even if he were to buy a X34 monitor. At that resolution, you dont need a 1070 SLI? Mind that, 3440x1440 isnt far from 2560x1440.

Lets filter out what we think its recommendable. SLI and Xfire doesnt seems to benefit anything in any of the current gaming titles. Neither does it scale that well.

By adding additional card, it doesnt give you x2 performance. At most its gonna add 20-30fps range more. But with frame variance all over the place, it is not worth adding the 2nd card. So a dual SLI 1070/1080 is out.

Next, what does Z170 has that will benefit TS? Does he even planning to overclock? Neither does he use any of the features of Z170. Yet alone an unlock i7. Or even the next gen Kaby Lake.

When TS dont intend to overclock, there is no need for watercooling, neither does he need a large heatsink, a simple cooler will do other than Intel heatsink if he has aesthetics in mind.

In all i would recommend a normal B150 mobo with a lock skylake i7 6700. Attached it with a single GTX 1080. Together with a bigger SSD perhaps 1tb and do away with HDD (not unless TS installs a lot of things then i would recommend a 480gb/512gb ssd together with 2tb HDD). A good PSU 600w probably from Superflower, Seasonic X series. And add on with a good standard heatsink cooler, and lastly a pc case that TS desires that looks good.

All this should not add up to the cost of $2.5k

 

[Donten]

Yea, shouldn't cost more than 2.5k. Don't know wtf you guys recommending.

 

[Gattberserk]

6700k comes with higher clock if that matters.


B or h170 will do though if no overclock, as i mention previously.


Like i mentioned titan x is the best setup he can get for 4k budget, but if he is ok to settle with one gtx 1080, den 2.5k is doable.

 

[ragnarok95]

6700 is fine. It can turbo boost to 4Ghz, which is 6700K speed.

 

[Gattberserk]

6700 is fine. It can turbo boost to 4Ghz, which is 6700K speed.

I thought 6700k turbo boost to 4.2ghz?

 

[fffrozzz]

bookmarked, plan to build about same budget once I'm back home.

 

[MoneyFace =p]

I think mostly the recommendations here doesnt seems to conclude anything lol.

Even if he were to buy a X34 monitor. At that resolution, you dont need a 1070 SLI? Mind that, 3440x1440 isnt far from 2560x1440.

Lets filter out what we think its recommendable. SLI and Xfire doesnt seems to benefit anything in any of the current gaming titles. Neither does it scale that well.

By adding additional card, it doesnt give you x2 performance. At most its gonna add 20-30fps range more. But with frame variance all over the place, it is not worth adding the 2nd card. So a dual SLI 1070/1080 is out.

Next, what does Z170 has that will benefit TS? Does he even planning to overclock? Neither does he use any of the features of Z170. Yet alone an unlock i7. Or even the next gen Kaby Lake.

When TS dont intend to overclock, there is no need for watercooling, neither does he need a large heatsink, a simple cooler will do other than Intel heatsink if he has aesthetics in mind.

In all i would recommend a normal B150 mobo with a lock skylake i7 6700. Attached it with a single GTX 1080. Together with a bigger SSD perhaps 1tb and do away with HDD (not unless TS installs a lot of things then i would recommend a 480gb/512gb ssd together with 2tb HDD). A good PSU 600w probably from Superflower, Seasonic X series. And add on with a good standard heatsink cooler, and lastly a pc case that TS desires that looks good.

All this should not add up to the cost of $2.5k

This is also why i haven't recommend anything yet...

$2.5K only enough for PC alone without monitor FYI...

And again, with $4K budget TS should wait till next gen for pride....

 

[royfrosty]

This is also why i haven't recommend anything yet...

$2.5K only enough for PC alone without monitor FYI...

And again, with $4K budget TS should wait till next gen for pride....

Yeap yeap. 2.5k for cpu only lol.

 

[MoneyFace =p]

Black + RGB themed....

CPU+MB: Intel Core i7-6700K + MSI B150A GAMING PRO @ $715 (PC Themes)
Runs at base 4 GHz out of the box. No need to overclock.
Enough to eliminate any possible CPU bottleneck.
HSF: Cryorig M9i @ $34" (Lazada SG)
K CPU doesn't comes with CPU cooler.
Basic CPU cooler is sufficient.
RAM: Kingston HyperX Savage DDR4-2400 CL12 16GB Dual Channel Kit [Black HSF + Black PCB] @ $122` (Lazada SG)
GPU: Zotac GTX 1080 8GB AMP! @ $843^ (Qoo10 SG)
SSD: 1TB SSD X2 @ $600 (Amazon US)
Wait for possible Amazon Black Friday USD 199.99 SSD deals.
One for OS, games and programs. The other for storage.
PSU: Super Flower Leadex Silver 650W [80 Plus Silver] @ $115 (t258jgn)
CASE: Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ATX Tempered Glass @ $260 (t258jgn)
OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Education 64-bit Product Key @ $28 (Reddit)
Check buyers' review first.
DSP: Acer Predator X34 34" 1440p 100Hz 21:9 Curved [AH-IPS] @ $1297* (Qoo10 SG)

Total: $4014

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For November purchase.

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[enenyi]

Black + RGB themed....

CPU+MB: Intel Core i7-6700K + MSI B150A GAMING PRO @ $715 (PC Themes)
Runs at base 4 GHz out of the box. No need to overclock.
Enough to eliminate any possible CPU bottleneck.
HSF: Cryorig M9i @ $34" (Lazada SG)
K CPU doesn't comes with CPU cooler.
Basic CPU cooler is sufficient.
RAM: Kingston HyperX Savage DDR4-2400 CL12 16GB Dual Channel Kit [Black HSF + Black PCB] @ $122` (Lazada SG)
GPU: Zotac GTX 1080 8GB AMP! @ $843^ (Qoo10 SG)
SSD: 1TB SSD X2 @ $600 (Amazon US)
Wait for possible Amazon Black Friday USD 199.99 SSD deals.
One for OS, games and programs. The other for storage.
PSU: Super Flower Leadex Silver 650W [80 Plus Silver] @ $115 (t258jgn)
CASE: Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ATX Tempered Glass @ $260 (t258jgn)
OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Education 64-bit Product Key @ $28 (Reddit)
Check buyers' review first.
DSP: Acer Predator X34 34" 1440p 100Hz 21:9 Curved [AH-IPS] @ $1297* (Qoo10 SG)

Total: $4014

*Qoo10 discount as follows:
$10 off min $100 spending MasterCard Item Coupon [Redeemable every Wednesday]
$100 off min $600 spending SuperSale Cart Coupon [TBA]
3% rebates for 10x $100 Qoo10 Gift Cards
For November purchase.

^Qoo10 discount as follows:
$10 off min $100 spending MasterCard Item Coupon [Redeemable every Wednesday]
$100 off min $600 spending SuperSale Cart Coupon [TBA]
3% rebates for 8x $100 Qoo10 Gift Cards
For December purchase.

`Price after Lazada Online Revolution 2016 Wheel Spin $5 off min $30 spending discount code
"Price after Lazada App DBS/POSB FriYaYs FRIYAYS 10% off max $20 discount

Can drop to i7-6700 and get stock cooler since most games are GPU-bound anyway. Difference between running i7-6700 at stock and i7-6700k at some 4.5GHz is prob at most 2-3fps, not that significant considering TS will prob be churning out more than 100fps with the 1080. Money saved can be invested in getting better keyboard or mouse.

 

[MoneyFace =p]

Can drop to i7-6700 and get stock cooler since most games are GPU-bound anyway. Difference between running i7-6700 at stock and i7-6700k at some 4.5GHz is prob at most 2-3fps, not that significant considering TS will prob be churning out more than 100fps with the 1080. Money saved can be invested in getting better keyboard or mouse.

Im thinking more of a long run situation since TS doesn't seem to know what he is meddling with. Next time can simply upgrade graphics card...

Witcher 3 is pretty CPU bound no?

And TS mentioned no requiring peripherals. Hence, i am assuming he already have those....