any threads on Detention Barracks (DB)?

dnsfpl

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jsbn said:
Correction on this.

DB = Prison

And in the future, if you are filling in any job application forms which has the question, "Have you ever been charged in a Court of Justice?" you must tick yes.

If you tick 'no', its just 3 words - You are lying. And depending on the company's policy, you may/may not be hired.

In the first place, just think before committing any military offences.
DB != Prison
only garment sector and SOME private sector are concern of pple goin to DB

depend on how the question is ask, eg "Have you ever been charged in a Court of Justice?"
i believe the answer is NO
 

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jsbn said:
Gambling and vice wise I may not be the know-all and will give wrong information. But trust me on the DB thing.

Had seen someone first hand given marching orders a long time ago due to his DB offence and on the thinking that 'DB is not a criminal record' and he ticked on the 'no' under 'have you been tried in a Court of Law?'

And given marching orders simply because of 1 single error and the assumption that DB != Prison? Its not funny.

I think its because of the company policy bah, i think under the law DB is not = Prison. Because DB stands for Detention Barracks? People don't need to get court martialed to go to DB right or someone correct me if I'm wrong. If you don't go to a court, whether military or civil, you are not charged? Anyway Tried and Convicted is different, i think you mean convictred right?
 

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I think you forgot to mention about:

- laceless boots and oversized no.4
- synchronised brushing of teeth
- palm on table saying the national pledge
- 1st timer basketball court / 2nd timer field
- sandbags in haversack chin ups
- sandbags in haversack forced march and runs
- ****ting part is interesting too

:s22:

db is the place where they train people like Rambo ha ha... even the commandos or guards cannot fight their body!
 

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this is an interesting read.

regarding whether being DB-ed means getting charged in a Court of Justice anot, i'm not sure.

but all along, i've been under the impression that only if u exceeed a certain amount of days (is it 10?) then it'll be taken down as a criminal record.
 

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victorian07 said:
this is an interesting read.

regarding whether being DB-ed means getting charged in a Court of Justice anot, i'm not sure.

but all along, i've been under the impression that only if u exceeed a certain amount of days (is it 10?) then it'll be taken down as a criminal record.

OC (JDO or Junior Disciplinary Officer ) can sentence soldiers up to 7 days in DB for offences such as AWOL, fighting or misfire live rounds.

CO (SDO or Senior Disciplinary Officer) can sentence soldiers up to 14 days.

Anything beyond that will be court Martial.

Officers can only be charged by Bde Comd or Div Comd
 

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im not too surebut from what i know... going to DB will not be recorded under your criminal record. It will be under your military record tho, which i think some goverment sectors will take into consideration. But its best that you just clarify that you were once a military offender la so as to avoid any complications in the future.


and im not too sure about this but i heard your record of going to DB will disappear after 3 years from the date you were court martialled. heard that from a clerk from my unit. Is it true ?
 

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okay since a few want me to share i will just share what i have experienced not a lot since i am only a short term stayer over there. Depending on your situation, if you got arrested for AWOL outside by the MP (military police) you will be handcuffed to the DB place (not very sure camp name and where since i was arrested at night just know its near mowbay road). they will take down your particulars while your handcuffed and asked to face the wall...take urine test to check if you are under drugs and you will be ask to hand over ur belongings, even spectacles unless its plastic(prob scared u commit suicide),strip and wear a yellow t-shirt with blue colored shorts and then you get send to a holding cell...same like db cell. there is a small gap in the bottom side of the cell big enuf for ur hand to slide thru so you get ur food/drink over there. You stay there for like up to a day while you wait for your sentence. Inside the cell theres a wall and theres toilet (squatting type), a small type of well with a bucket for you to bath, drink, brush ur teeth. Once you get charged and you only pay a fine you get out otherwise if they decide to investigate further/sentenced to go to DB you will be brought to DB. If you get charged in camp you would most prob be sent to DB directly.

Inside DB you have to address all SAF MPs as sir. After that you will be brought to the main building with an orange gate. Theres a yellow line and you must note that every time you see a yellow line, you must stop and say, "permission to carry on sir!' or if theres 2 and more of you being brought to a place, 1 detainee would have to say, "1,2,3 and everyone of the detainee would have to say permission to carry on sir! and you will carry on if the SAF MP gives you the permission. If its an orange gate you have to say good morning sir and ask for permission like what i said above, more than 1 detainee to cross the gate one guy say, "greet 1,2,3, then everyone say good morning sir!, 1,2,3, permission to carry on sir!" and if your the first to cross the gate you must say, "1 sir!', next guy that cross say, "2 sir!' till the last guy that cross the gate must say his no xxx sir but also say, 'xxx number is the last number sir!' must be synchronised when you say that, like marching else you will be ask to repeat again.


You will find that every room has a yellow line you will be taken to a room where your asked to strip (check for injuries and tattoos)and wear another yellow t-shirt with blue shorts. You will be classified under 3 categories: CA (stands for close arrest), CD(stands for corrective detainee) for first timer, SUS(stands for soldier under sentence) second and subsequent timer. This new yellow T-shirt will have the Abbreviation on which category u belong to with a number below it. E.g. if your a second timer, you will be given a yellow t-shirt with the words SUS and a number below it. You wear plastic slippers thru the remainder of your sentence. There you will be given a straw mat, a green colored cup with the number samed as your T-shirt no, toothbrush with the same no, shaver with the same no, green colored blanket,exercise book, soap container with soap, a card holder with a white paper inside it that states your particulars, offence committed. sort of a 11B and your asked to pick a religious book. This and particulars done, fill up parent visit form(parents allowed to visit on mon,wed,fri unless special parent visit is granted for half an hr), your taken to a cell same as the holding cell i mentioned earlier. under a building which also classifies you into first timer, second timer, third and subsequent timer e.t.c.

90% of people in DB are awolees, the extreme cases being charged for going out for 15 mins to buy food and end up 7 days db, or 8 months awol charged 5 days db.
no mirrors in toilet, only plastic specs allowed (prob scared u commit suicide). Mon-Fri have to do regime (sandbag drill) for first timer, less for subsequent timers, sandbag around 20kg (like field pack). Before you do sandbag, they will get MO to check if your fit to do sandbag drill according to your PES status. Regime's around 8:30 to 10:30, not sure of time cos never see the time, around 8 pm rollcoll, 9 pm to 6 am lights out (sleep).

You will realise everything in DB you have to ask for permission, even
when you have to take your food in from the cell! my cellmate who been to changi prison told me even prison dont have something like this. Lamest thing ever. Most MPs are ok, but there are some guai lan ones including one chinese fat guy who wear specs that make u knock it down 20 if you dont greet properly/if ur voice is not loud enuf during rollcall. Can try complaining abt MPs when ur released, but you guys know how SAF is like.


JW (jehovah witness) are given the same outfit except they wear white T-shirts with no number. They have to serve for 3 years 3 months inside DB, never allowed to go home and when they leave the army, no reservist for them. They basically do the "household chores" in DB (cook the food, wash the clothes), e.t.c. However, they do not need to ask for permission this and that or call SAF MPs and sir and they can walk around DB/ play basketball


and yes, time in DB do not count in NS, altho a general guideline for Awolees is 1 day db = 2 day of awol, but not every case turn out that way like i mentioned earlier. This guideline, however, only applies to first-timers ONLY. Subsequent awol cases is treated as 1 day awol = 1 day DB. So if you already decided to awol, might as well awol as long as u can since the time u awol is counted as doing NS. just remember that after 21 days, theres a warrant of arrest out for you and if you get caught and court-martialed, the sentence is heavier and will not follow the guideline, so don't open the door lolx if you see 4 plain clothes guy knocking on the door and dont stay at home for like say the 1st month

I dun think you tio as a detainee loh, sound like you are a MP there. anyway i got frds who work as MPs in DB loh, many things had changed. let me ask u if there medical center in the cell? u give me the name who u say is guai lan chinese fat guy who wear specs i go and ask my frd see got this person or not.
 

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Eros said:
But what the time of AWOL den get yourself lock up...
I know there are real cases where by the PC or any of the commanders are **** up and screw ur life in there but if we can't take it, we have to find solution to solve it.
By AWOLing, is that the best solution unless you can be a rich f*** who can run oversea and stay there dun come back... Otherwise, where is the point of wasting time running, hiding den get caught throw in DB...


if you run oversea and hide or not coming back is not AWOL is call defaulters, defaulters sentence is more harsh than AWOL, remember in a few years ago a singaporean who go oversea when he was young to learn piano and nv come back to serve NS, then he come back to have a concert in SG after many years, and tio defaulters end up he pay a hugh fine and leave SG without having the concert. Frankly speaking AWOL is not a wise choice, in SG guys have to go though NS, if u cant take it go chiong pes status downgrade, relax relax complete NS, if tio C9L3 more song can say no reservist liao, so i personally see there is reason y ppl want to go AWOL.
 

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hesperus said:
heh.. the OC is also at fault lei for trying to dare him.. but anyway, anything happen to the OC?

if your hero is clever/smart enough, he shld not have accept his challenge, he shld have note it down and bring up to the CO or your GRC MP, and the OC will tio until he blur because as a officer he shld know that provoking his man is wrong. he will be warned for his behaviour, Officer shld take care of his men and challenge.
 

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LaMission said:
OC (JDO or Junior Disciplinary Officer ) can sentence soldiers up to 7 days in DB for offences such as AWOL, fighting or misfire live rounds.

CO (SDO or Senior Disciplinary Officer) can sentence soldiers up to 14 days.

Anything beyond that will be court Martial.

Officers can only be charged by Bde Comd or Div Comd
i'm not asking abt who can charge..

i'm asking how many days then will it become an official criminal record that will even carry on when you are a civilian.

i know go DB is considered have military record liao... but i rmb is must exceed certain no. of days, then local unis won't accept you, civil service n all etc..
 

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victorian07 said:
i'm not asking abt who can charge..

i'm asking how many days then will it become an official criminal record that will even carry on when you are a civilian.

i know go DB is considered have military record liao... but i rmb is must exceed certain no. of days, then local unis won't accept you, civil service n all etc..

I dun think there is any criminal record if you are being charged in the SAF.

However if a soldier commited an offence (e.g. taking drugs) and was charged in the civil court, The SAF will also charge him in the military court.
 

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When can i start visiting my bf who's in db?

I need answers urgenlty and asap.
My bf has been caught consumption of drugs like 1 month ago.
He's currenlty in db, although court date not told yet.
He was held up in db because, he's urine test proved positve.

His parents have started to visit him 2 times already, i wonder when can girlfriends start to visit him? Will it be possible?

And one more thing, he signed on as navy, but currently studying and on busary thingy.
What most likely will he be charged?
I heard it will be 18 months, then minus off the weekends and holidays will be around 1 year.
No less? I need answers asap. Thanks!
 

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I need answers urgenlty and asap.
My bf has been caught consumption of drugs like 1 month ago.
He's currenlty in db, although court date not told yet.
He was held up in db because, he's urine test proved positve.

His parents have started to visit him 2 times already, i wonder when can girlfriends start to visit him? Will it be possible?

And one more thing, he signed on as navy, but currently studying and on busary thingy.
What most likely will he be charged?
I heard it will be 18 months, then minus off the weekends and holidays will be around 1 year.
No less? I need answers asap. Thanks!

not very sure,mabe you can follow ur bf's parents to visit him ~~
 

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Take drug ah ? He got caught from outside by police or tio check up one ?

If DB i think maybe 1 year, maybe lesser really depeends one

Regular most likely will tio kick out ba...i got a fren take drugs during NS also..but he got caught outside of camp

When in jail for 1 and half year i think, after that when back for his NS

gd luck
 

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I need answers urgenlty and asap.
My bf has been caught consumption of drugs like 1 month ago.
He's currenlty in db, although court date not told yet.
He was held up in db because, he's urine test proved positve.

His parents have started to visit him 2 times already, i wonder when can girlfriends start to visit him? Will it be possible?

And one more thing, he signed on as navy, but currently studying and on busary thingy.
What most likely will he be charged?
I heard it will be 18 months, then minus off the weekends and holidays will be around 1 year.
No less? I need answers asap. Thanks!

you wont be able to visit him, unless you are legally wed
 

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Only immediate family members can visit detainees. So, prepare yourself; you ain't seeing your stead for quite some time.

Your boyfriend will be charged after they complete their investigations, which can take as long as they need. The time your boyfriend is serving now will count towards his sentence. Pray he gets a good JDO to defend him and lessens his charge.

I had a drug user in my unit sentenced to DB for four months as he was a first-timer. Depending on your boyfriend's conduct in the unit and what his superiors recommend, it can be really short or up to 18 months.
 
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when he come out, dont ask him to take drugs again....

not worth it....

like my friend, when i post to the unit, he already inside, :s22: he got caught outside taking drugs during nsf, he got good performances inside so they let him out early for the first time.

then he made the same mistakes again :s22: this time caught by the cnb :s22: and next day he inside and he still there for all i know, that is about 1.5 years already and i still havent not seen him when i ord :s22: and i serve 2.5 years until they lessen it to 2 years :(

he really like serving army alot since he is a nsf for only 5mths plus only :s22:
 
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when he come out, dont ask him to take drugs again....

not worth it....

like my friend, when i post to the unit, he already inside, :s22: he got caught outside taking drugs during nsf, he got good performances inside so they let him out early for the first time.

then he made the same mistakes again :s22: this time caught by the cnb :s22: and next day he inside and he still there for all i know, that is about 1.5 years already and i still havent not seen him when i ord :s22: and i serve 2.5 years until they lessen it to 2 years :(

he really like serving army alot since he is a nsf for only 5mths plus only :s22:

lol. serve so long. patriotic siah...
 
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