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Hi,

Am looking for recruiter position here as I just recently for my diploma in Human Resource. May I know whether which recruitment agency is good to work for? Like maybe: Hudson/ Kelly Services/ PrimeStaff/ RecruitPlus/ RGF Executive? Any comments or review about any agencies I'd listed?

Or may worst to worst I would like to know about Recruit Express Tampines branch, like how is the office/ environment/ people like?
There is no good entry level agency

Recruit express or its sister companies are good for fresh grads though

Adecco, manpower and Kelly services are also not too bad

I seldom see companies like Hudson hire fresh grads

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Is 20% increment a big jump? Attended an interview yesterday, the interviewer say its not realistic for a huge gap
 

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Hi, if a company is looking for fresh grad engineers, what are the avenues to locate them and get them interested? (Other than the traditional posting on job portals)

post ad in forums where the engineers will visit?

No lah.. Im asking cuz if i put senior exec salary is a v big pay jump...
this kind of salary thing no one can advise u de... everyone has their different requirement and will feel contented with different amounts.

But when u put, bear in mind, what your competitors will also put. And how strong your resume is.

for meself the final decision i make will be based on the company staff benefits, e.g. annual leave, aws, bonus, mobile allowance, food, transport, medical, insurance, dental, etc...

It shows that the management is more likely to be kind and considerate towards employees... this is the type of bosses i will want to work for and won't mind the lower pay.


Have a good cover letter
i have a cover letter, but i hardly use it, coz i thought its for formality purposes only and i suspect that most of the hiring managers/hr do not really read it since they have like SO MANY resumes to read tey'll rather just read the most important parts and not the cover letter (Am i wrong?)


Is 20% increment a big jump? Attended an interview yesterday, the interviewer say its not realistic for a huge gap
If u can justify on the 20% jump , e.g. u have all along been paid under market rate and you can do what the company asks for and much more, then why not?
 

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I've come across companies that do not refer to last drawn salary but instead offer a certain amount based on the value of the role. ie. there is already a price tag for the position.

HH, is the above common?
 
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fresh grad here... jus want to ask...

izzit appropriate to ask for a delayed start date?

Initially, i told them im okay with commencing around june/july (no specific date was given) when they first gave me a verbal offer. And they said something like earlier the better as they r quite keen to start the new 'initiative'.

now they emailed and ask if im okay with starting on 1st June as they are preparing the contracts, etc for me to sign. so, izzit okay if i request the start date to be delayed for about 2 weeks? will the hr think its a nuisance?

there's no particular reason for the delay tho... just wan to have a proper rest and spend more time with my family and gf before i transits to the next phrase in life.

sorry for the noob question. first job... no experience... don't know what are the do's and dont's.
 

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fresh grad here... jus want to ask...

izzit appropriate to ask for a delayed start date?

Initially, i told them im okay with commencing around june/july (no specific date was given) when they first gave me a verbal offer. And they said something like earlier the better as they r quite keen to start the new 'initiative'.

now they emailed and ask if im okay with starting on 1st June as they are preparing the contracts, etc for me to sign. so, izzit okay if i request the start date to be delayed for about 2 weeks? will the hr think its a nuisance?

there's no particular reason for the delay tho... just wan to have a proper rest and spend more time with my family and gf before i transits to the next phrase in life.

sorry for the noob question. first job... no experience... don't know what are the do's and dont's.

If u REALLY NEED the rest, just make an excuse or tell them u have holiday plans and see what they say.

But if Im the hr, i will just hire someone else who show more enthusiasm about the job / someone do not mind giving up holiday plans to start work.
 

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If u REALLY NEED the rest, just make an excuse or tell them u have holiday plans and see what they say.

But if Im the hr, i will just hire someone else who show more enthusiasm about the job / someone do not mind giving up holiday plans to start work.


Don't think they will retract the offer at this stage. And they have difficulties finding ppl that fit the role as it requires a rather unique combination of majors and experience that not many students have.... otherwise, I wouldnt even be able to get the offer given my poor interview performance... and the hr had to ask me for some recommendations after offering me. So, i unabashedly think that i have 1 or 2 cents worth of bargaining chips... but then, i don't want to go out of the line if asking for a 2 weeks delay is not acceptable.
 

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Don't think they will retract the offer at this stage. And they have difficulties finding ppl that fit the role as it requires a rather unique combination of majors and experience that not many students have.... otherwise, I wouldnt even be able to get the offer given my poor interview performance... and the hr had to ask me for some recommendations after offering me. So, i unabashedly think that i have 1 or 2 cents worth of bargaining chips... but then, i don't want to go out of the line if asking for a 2 weeks delay is not acceptable.
this hr sound so desperate lol :s22:

then u can try and ask for ur 2 week delay since you are sure they have difficulties finding suitable ppl .. btw what specialist are they looking for so hard to find?
 

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i find it to be extremely rude when some recruiters ask for your expected salary but REFUSED to tell the salary range for the job position when you ask them back. Sometimes they just tell that what you have expected is not within their budget and the rest is Confidential. wtf.

this interview has to be a 2 way thing okay... you ask us, we tell you and you have to be honest enugh to let us know back when we make our inquiries!

(just ranting, not targeting at ts)
 

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NOt sure if it has been asked before. Do you have any good example of how to write/format CV? Those online seems to be cater more for Ang Mo countries.
 

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I've come across companies that do not refer to last drawn salary but instead offer a certain amount based on the value of the role. ie. there is already a price tag for the position.

HH, is the above common?

No it is not common. As stated, companies use 3 things, both of which are equally as important to calculate salary increment.

1) Quality of person (including no of years of experience)
2) Internal equity
3) Salary budget

Do note that, even if the company can pay up to 100k, but you are currently at 50k, doesn't mean you will get 80k. In fact, salary budget is the worst way for a candidate to judge if they can give you an increment of how many %. (the best way is internal equity, but you won't know the info because it is P&C to the company)

fresh grad here... jus want to ask...

izzit appropriate to ask for a delayed start date?

Initially, i told them im okay with commencing around june/july (no specific date was given) when they first gave me a verbal offer. And they said something like earlier the better as they r quite keen to start the new 'initiative'.

now they emailed and ask if im okay with starting on 1st June as they are preparing the contracts, etc for me to sign. so, izzit okay if i request the start date to be delayed for about 2 weeks? will the hr think its a nuisance?

there's no particular reason for the delay tho... just wan to have a proper rest and spend more time with my family and gf before i transits to the next phrase in life.

sorry for the noob question. first job... no experience... don't know what are the do's and dont's.

Depends on the real reason why you want to start late. If you have certain things you have already pre booked (eg: Holiday) before you even sign the contract, then it is fine. But if you have previously agreed upon a start date, the most they can usually give you is a few days (1 to 2 days) difference but definitely not 2 weeks.

just curious
Strategy Consulting in a tier 2 firm
Technology Consulting

Especially for tech, since I feel asia sees it as a cost center

Tech is not "that" hot in Asia IMO. most of the top tier consulting firms are all based in the USA.

That's also where the money is.

Dear headhunter,

I went for interview and the recruiter called me back and say the interviewer ask for my salary expectation. What can I derive from this? He say It's positive news. Isit they ask for comparison sake or cause Nve ask during interview. I am very worried of having false hope

Means they are potentially interested to offer you, but it also means they want to compare you with another person whom they have also interviewed and see who is more worth it. (possibly) Do note that just because your salary is higher doesn't mean anything, because if lets say, your salary is 5k, asking 6k, but the other candidate is 6k, asking 7.5k, but he has 5 more years of experience than you, they will most likely hire him instead.

i find it to be extremely rude when some recruiters ask for your expected salary but REFUSED to tell the salary range for the job position when you ask them back. Sometimes they just tell that what you have expected is not within their budget and the rest is Confidential. wtf.

this interview has to be a 2 way thing okay... you ask us, we tell you and you have to be honest enugh to let us know back when we make our inquiries!

(just ranting, not targeting at ts)

Because, salary budgets very often, especially in big companies, are inflexible.

For example, got this big MNC whom i recently got someone a job in, they stated at first, the max they can pay is 100k per annum.

However, the person i recommended to them, was currently already on 120k.

They still hired the person in the end, and paid him 140k, simply because he was simply head and above much much better than the rest.
 

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NOt sure if it has been asked before. Do you have any good example of how to write/format CV? Those online seems to be cater more for Ang Mo countries.

No hard and fast rule, as long as it is clear, no spelling errors, not difficult to view in various formats, (like word, PDF, etc) then it is fine
 

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No hard and fast rule, as long as it is clear, no spelling errors, not difficult to view in various formats, (like word, PDF, etc) then it is fine

Can i ask why headhunters always like to ask for WORD doc even tho i have already emailed them the PDF file... if they wanted to edit the text, don't they know that the text in PDF can also be copied?
 

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Can i ask why headhunters always like to ask for WORD doc even tho i have already emailed them the PDF file... if they wanted to edit the text, don't they know that the text in PDF can also be copied?

Because, when they present your cv to their client, it needs to be formatted according to their company standard (and it will exclude your contact details, your email, personal details, etc)

It is far easier to reformat a cv if it is in word format compared to PDF format.
 

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Because, when they present your cv to their client, it needs to be formatted according to their company standard (and it will exclude your contact details, your email, personal details, etc)

It is far easier to reformat a cv if it is in word format compared to PDF format.

i see some job ad only got 1 vacancy but over 150 applicants.

Am i right to assume that the company will not read every single resume that is being sent to them.? And they will just pick a few to read and select frm there
 

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Thanks TS, for confirming my assumption. Based on observation and light convo I always assumed that SG does not value tech consulting compared to many country.
 
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