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Converted from intern but do not like the job and wanna jump ship which format better?

Exec April-Present
Intern Jan-March

or

Just list intern experience.

or

Exec Jan-April

Main concern is that I'm afraid of giving the wrong impression of job hopper. I actually rejected the offer to convert but was re-offered and decided to take the rational approach of finding a new job with a pay rather than being jobless.
 

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Converted from intern but do not like the job and wanna jump ship which format better?

Exec April-Present
Intern Jan-March

or

Just list intern experience.

or

Exec Jan-April

Main concern is that I'm afraid of giving the wrong impression of job hopper. I actually rejected the offer to convert but was re-offered and decided to take the rational approach of finding a new job with a pay rather than being jobless.

how old are u ?

u join edmw so early , not fresh grad anymore right . . . ? not fresh grad still can find intern to do ah..
 

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HH,
i accepted an offer and signed the contract....my current co. counter-offered me....what repercussions will I face if I back out from that contract? pls kindly advise. thanks,
 

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HH,
i accepted an offer and signed the contract....my current co. counter-offered me....what repercussions will I face if I back out from that contract? pls kindly advise. thanks,

Firstly, in my opinion, you should never ever take a counter offer for a few reasons

1) Spoil your name in the industry, especially if the new company that offers you is in the same industry as your current company. (and a direct competitor). Word will spread around very fast and next time you want to move it won't be so easy.

2) Your current company will know that you are looking to leave, and therefore your "mistakes" will be scrutinized more closely. You will also most likely become harder to get promoted vs other people.

Which means, your company will most likely get another person to be groomed to be more senior.

However, do note that if you don't take up the offer with the other company, there is no repercussions (other than spoiling your reputation)
 

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Converted from intern but do not like the job and wanna jump ship which format better?

Exec April-Present
Intern Jan-March

or

Just list intern experience.

or

Exec Jan-April

Main concern is that I'm afraid of giving the wrong impression of job hopper. I actually rejected the offer to convert but was re-offered and decided to take the rational approach of finding a new job with a pay rather than being jobless.

You can easy, Jan to Present - company name
Then Jan to March - Intern
April to Present - Executive
 

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Hi HH,

I attended sort of an informal interview with the regional head when he was in SG. I meet all criteria except for experience. He asked me to think about 'it' and what is it that I really want, then inform him. He will consider me for the position if I'm still keen. Is this said mainly out of politeless or there is a chance I will be considered for the position?

I take it is a very junior position?

The reason why he told you to think about "it" is because, if he hires you, he doesn't want you to quit the company within a certain time frame (because in the first year, he will have to invest substantial time and resources to train you to be experienced, and the company will only reap the benefits of your training after the first year)

Worse case is, he hires you, trains you, then after one year, you quit the company because you feel the role is not suitable, or you go to a competitor (which has not invested any time whatsoever to train you)
 

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Hi HH, I'll like to ask in accounting jobs (full sets), is accounting software exposure really one of the main criteria?? I have 3 yrs plus of General accounting exp but didn't really handle the system cos it's outsource.

Generally, exposure to accounting software, if you have it is good, but if you don't have it, is negligible.

It is far more important usually from a company's point of view to hire someone experienced and train the person in software, rather than hire someone who is good in software, to train in accounting.


Most of it does not apply to Singapore due to cultural differences.
 

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Firstly, in my opinion, you should never ever take a counter offer for a few reasons

1) Spoil your name in the industry, especially if the new company that offers you is in the same industry as your current company. (and a direct competitor). Word will spread around very fast and next time you want to move it won't be so easy.

2) Your current company will know that you are looking to leave, and therefore your "mistakes" will be scrutinized more closely. You will also most likely become harder to get promoted vs other people.

Which means, your company will most likely get another person to be groomed to be more senior.

However, do note that if you don't take up the offer with the other company, there is no repercussions (other than spoiling your reputation)

thanks for the advice. I will through carefully. Fortunately, both co. are not in the same industry...will the other party pursue legal action since there is a contract ?
 

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thanks for the advice. I will through carefully. Fortunately, both co. are not in the same industry...will the other party pursue legal action since there is a contract ?

The company cannot claim from you under the employment act.

They can however, engage a lawyer to sue you (although that is highly unlikely because it costs $$, unless your role you are applying for is super senior management)

Only thing is, your reputation with this company, and with this manager, will be ruined. (which means even if the manager moves to another company, he will not hire you)
 

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I take it is a very junior position?

The reason why he told you to think about "it" is because, if he hires you, he doesn't want you to quit the company within a certain time frame (because in the first year, he will have to invest substantial time and resources to train you to be experienced, and the company will only reap the benefits of your training after the first year)

Worse case is, he hires you, trains you, then after one year, you quit the company because you feel the role is not suitable, or you go to a competitor (which has not invested any time whatsoever to train you)
They are looking for someone with 6 to 9 years of sales experience. It's not a direct sales job. Supporting the dealer. I used to work in their competitor company. There's only so many companies in the industry. No more competitor company I can join.
 

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HH, within 6 months of joining a firm, will it be reasonable to change Job again if competitor comes with a 200% increment?
 

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HH, within 6 months of joining a firm, will it be reasonable to change Job again if competitor comes with a 200% increment?

Depends on what you want in life?

I have had candidates who took 30 to 50% pay cuts because they could leave by 5 pm every day, so that they can spend more time with their children who are doing their PSLE/O levels
 

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do u managed to find jobs for undischarged bankrupts, like in non-finanical industries?

are they at a very disadvantage position?

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Won't say they are extremely disadvantaged.

Depends on which industry and which position they are applying for. Some are more strict than others.


They are looking for someone with 6 to 9 years of sales experience. It's not a direct sales job. Supporting the dealer. I used to work in their competitor company. There's only so many companies in the industry. No more competitor company I can join.

If there are only so many competitors in the industry like what you said, then sometimes better to choose to stay and progress up, because it will get to a point one day where you cannot go any other companies (Since the industry is small and you have been to all competitors)

Sometimes better to look at the long run rather than the short run.
 

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The company cannot claim from you under the employment act.

They can however, engage a lawyer to sue you (although that is highly unlikely because it costs $$, unless your role you are applying for is super senior management)

Only thing is, your reputation with this company, and with this manager, will be ruined. (which means even if the manager moves to another company, he will not hire you)
They can sue? I signed a contract with one co but then now I might have another better offer, will have to reject the first one if I want to accept the 2nd one. Shouldn't be a big prob right?
 

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U talk so much until birds come home
Do you have any jobs above $3k for me

This thread isn't for lazy people with high expectations. It is a platform to provide free career advice to help those who seeks help in understanding how hiring processes work. I am deeply grateful to HH who has been very patient and honest about providing free advice on this area which I believe, has benefited many people, including myself.



Please keep this thread constructive and free of trolling. If you are a sincere job seeker, you may start by reading up on the various ways to make yourself more marketable. A good way to start is to brush up on your resume, submit it online to various sites (monster, efinancial etc). I have received several calls/emails on potential job opportunities.
 
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