To davidktw:
1) My upbringing teach me that I am on my own if you are unemployed or try to survive another day of daily expenses because government is not going to feed or/and care for me & my family when I am down unlike other 1st world countries.
First statement made in this post, "CONTRADICTION" to what you are practicing.
By interpretation of "My upbringing teach me that I am on my own", I don't see how it applies to TS. If you really value you upbringing, it would be how you practice it and apply it in your life.
If you truly believe in that "You are on your own", then your actions of helping TS to do his/her homework is not trying to practice the TRUTH of how TS can be on his/her own. In fact, it is CONTRADICTION to your upbringing, which is asking TS to be dependent on others even for his/her homework. With this CONTRADICTION in light, I hardly see how your belief is valid. Neither does it holds in any form and with any credibility.
Next is you have quoted a hypothesis. As much as if one is unemployed and survival is critical, that doesn't imply in anyway that one's character and integrity should be at stake. Don't compare with the 1st world countries that your behaviour is nowhere near. As much as I can observe, your belief and actions are 1st class from the back.
As such, up to this point, I find your argument weak, unconvincing and naturally non-creditable .
2) When we do research & reveal our competitors' Compensation and benefits information to our organization which we can indirectly call it spying, is it right? When we head hunt potential candidate & approach them to join our organization which we can indirectly call it stealing, is it right?
I don't see how you babble these paragraph of nonsense has anything to do with our discussion on how wrong it is for you to render your service to help TS with his/her assignment which is naturally his/her due diligence and not your responsibility. TS can ask for advice, you can render your advice, but helping him/her to do the assignment is in no way helping.
I will gladly disregarding this irrelevant paragraph.
3) Our government give free scholarship without bond to foreigner for goodies like FTA at our expend of our own citizens. I learn from government that I will consider to do this for my family to survive our daily expenses at a little expend of my Morality.
How the government exercise their policies is in no way relevant to our discussion. Seemingly you have an issue keeping a discussion contained within a reasonable relevancy. As such I do question your capability to keep a issue discussion in focus. I believe TS assignment might be in peril if he/she will to engage your service at all.
Allow me to put things in perspective and back on track. The discussion here is on how unethical and a misconduct on both parts of TS and you, to collaborate in an unscrupulous manner over TS's assignment. As such please kindly keep government's policies and largely politics out of this discussion. This is a discussion on the involved integrity, character and personally. I stress again, it has NOTHING to do with how government govern the country and her education policy.
先有家，再有国，你连自己都故不好，还谈什么国家大事。连自己的道德都可以出卖，还有什么资格去批评国家的政策。
If you really care about how the country should be run and how the current policy is inadequate, first go and reflect on what you are doing. Is what you are doing a good reflection of your own character. Without a person with good character and ethics, how can the public entrust you in making good decision and what you recommend is credible ?
Start with how you do things first, don't just casually criticise that the government this and that.
从根本做起，不要颠倒秩序。
4) I am only selling my 'executive summary' to my 'customer' & I do not care how is he going to use it which most of the organizations is doing it.
This statement EXACTLY point out how unscrupulous it is on your part involved in this unethical business transaction. Of course you don't care, if you really care, why would you be involved at all. The only possible reasoning of your doings is "you don't care".
5) He do not know my creditably & competency which is the reason why he is at 'RISK' to pay at this price which I consider the rate is reasonable to him/her as a student. If I used a managerial/consultant position from a BIG/consultation organization, I will charge him a lot more since he know our creditably & competency.
Indeed that TS has no knowledge on your capability and to engage in your service knowing the risk involved is naturally his/her incompetency. Your responsibility in this whole transaction is neither bright nor honourable either.
6) We all know students do homework, project & exam is to gauge the student's competency & forcing them to do is to indirectly letting them learn new things. If the student do not care about his own education like learning new things at undergraduate level, why should I care about him when he is old enough to make a decision?
The only person whom is forcing yourself to do something is when you look upon it as forcing. Quoting the following statement "If the student do not care about his own education like learning new things at undergraduate level, why should I care about him when he is old enough to make a decision" spell out 2 things.
First, to TS, you are first a joker to engage in this fella service. Obviously as far as he is concern, you are nothing more that a moola endpoint. I do understand this part, since this is an explicit business transaction.
Second, it reinforce your character and integrity and for all to see how low you are willing to stoop.
7) Employer do not care how you get your degree. As long as you have the experiences, qualification & perform in interview, you get the job. Can perform your job mean promotion. What we look at is finial result like saleman. Singapore is the only 1st world country that do not needs foreigner to have local experiences & qualification to be assess by professional bodies to work in Singapore. So if foreigner from 3rd world country can used an unknown university degree to work in Singapore which is allow by the government, why should employer or me complaint about how our employee get his degree?
First and foremost, I have expressed my reluctance to get political in this discussion. So please wake up your idea and don't get out of focus. Re-read my statement made with regards the topic of this discussion and don't stray out of topic.
8) This is the real world. Learn it well!
Link:
Glengarry Glen Ross speech - YouTube
I am utterly amused. So your last statement to all these at most relate to a movie. I do agree life can be like a movie, but if all you got to support your claim is upon a movie, please wake up from your dream.
Additionally I would like to add the following.
Human are not saint, we make mistake. Our faith and belief sway, but it is often possible to get back on track using a simple truth. We believe parents naturally love their offspring. All it takes is if you are going to do something, ask yourself if you will teach that to your own kids. If you are willing to do so, you probably is on the right track. However this rule is not absolute. Even some impossible parents are willing to lead their own kids astray. As such, there is nothing except for the rest of the world to understand while the kids could be at fault, the parent make up the largest part of the responsibility. “
养不教，父之过。教不严，师之惰。子不学，非所宜。幼不学，老何为”
Since you seems to have so much belief in what you are practicing is honourable and correct, I challenge you to please pass on such values to your kid and let them suffer. I hope that by that time, you will be honourable and proud of your kids achievement when they end up like TS, asking around for someone else to do their homework for them.
My debate in this thread is not about to change anything between TS and you. As much as I can say, I believe in some sense you should understand. However if you insist on your unethical and unscrupulous doing, be my guest. Time will tell if eventually you will REAP what you SOW. No one can escape from the simple cause and effect that this world is experiencing. Eventually what you believe in and how you practice and exercise them will reciprocate appropriately.
If my post here is helpful at all to anyone, I'm glad of these readers. If they are not, eventually it will end up in the archives of this forum. Either way, it doesn't really bother me at all.
As much as we are in the same space-time continuum, however I don't find how your real world and my real world coincide. My real world revolve around honour, ethics and morality. I can't say the same about your real world.
Take care then. Hope it all turn out well for you.
