BCAA and protein

[Hakkaa]

Gonna apologise for the creating so many threads, anyway i have some questions regarding BCAAs and Protein for my current workout.

I'm currently 77Kg, 168cm and have a body fat of about 20%, going through a caloric deficit diet, and would like to ask if taking BCAAs would be a good choice for me, considering that i am weightlifting in the morning, and doing light cardio during night time. Usually a 15minute run for 3 days a week.

Initially planned to get protein powder instead to replace my pre-workout meal, but after reading online, i get a rough idea that BCAA promotes protein synthesis, muscle sparing, recovery and endurance?
So short to say, if i were to take BCAAs during my workout periods, i would be able to have that energy boost to continue working out, and at the same time BCAA would prevent lean muscle loss since i am going through a caloric deficit diet.

Am i right up till this point?


If so, should i ditch the idea of getting protein powder, and just get BCAA instead, or should i go ahead and get both of them?

Protein powder wise, i would probably be getting BSN Syntha-6 as it has a higher carb value per serving. Something which i probably would need, as i have no plans of taking in any rice/bread or any carb source after my breakfast, which is my first meal. Planning to cap my carb at about 50g per day or maybe slightly more during workout days.


Thanks and sorry for the trouble.

 

[Bel.SG]

No need to go under 50g of carbs thats ridiculous, and protein powder will be sufficient BCAAs are good for fasted training.. If you have the money go ahead buy some bcaas, but theres really no need

 

[lee_tired_sheep]

BCAAs are a staple

 

[Hakkaa]

No need to go under 50g of carbs thats ridiculous, and protein powder will be sufficient BCAAs are good for fasted training.. If you have the money go ahead buy some bcaas, but theres really no need

thanks for the input, kind of hesitant in getting BCAAs since the prices for it are a little too high for my budget.

and woops on the 50g per day part, i meant per meal, since if i were to follow IIFYM, i should be taking in about 50g per meal.

BCAAs are a staple

any difference in training with and without? Especially for someone on a caloric deficit.

 

[frostbyte88]

any difference in training with and without? Especially for someone on a caloric deficit.

Meats and dairy are actually really high in BCAAs. If you are eating a significant amount of protein, there really isnt a need to go out of the way to consume supplemental BCAAs in my opinion.

I have trained with and without BCAAs and felt no difference (since i eat a lot of meat/dairy). I have also found no use/results from creatine supplementation (which is also found in red meat).

6oz = 170grams

If you were on a deficit and find it difficult to keep to your daily caloric intake, then BCAAs may be useful since they do not have any calories. Also, if you were say, running fasted in the morning, you wont need to deal with a loaded digestive system from consuming meat/dairy for BCAAs.

This being said, i only train 3-4 times a week. I also do NOT train fasted. If, for example, you were training twice a day, 5-6 times a week, there probably is a good reason to supplement.

My advice is not to get too reliant on ANY supplement, even whey, so when the day comes when you dont have access to it, you wont freak out psychologically and panic thinking youll lose all your gainz. Hope that helps!

 

[Jowa__]

bcaas on a caloric deficit is highly recommended if you want to preserve muscle mass. don't wanna get catabolic, lost gainz

 

[derrickgyn]

Bcaa is a staple.

Oh wait sheep has already mentioned. It makes a very big difference for me. Caloric deficit or not.

 

[galapogos]

How much supplemental BCAAs are yall taking, and when?

 

[jokerk]

Personally, in the grand scheme of things(and at this point in time), fix the your daily nutrition before anything else.

Whether bcaas are important/not important applies once you have main diet in check.

Don't major in the minors - Jim Wendler.

 

[axxomarketing]

Gonna apologise for the creating so many threads, anyway i have some questions regarding BCAAs and Protein for my current workout.

I'm currently 77Kg, 168cm and have a body fat of about 20%, going through a caloric deficit diet, and would like to ask if taking BCAAs would be a good choice for me, considering that i am weightlifting in the morning, and doing light cardio during night time. Usually a 15minute run for 3 days a week.

Initially planned to get protein powder instead to replace my pre-workout meal, but after reading online, i get a rough idea that BCAA promotes protein synthesis, muscle sparing, recovery and endurance?
So short to say, if i were to take BCAAs during my workout periods, i would be able to have that energy boost to continue working out, and at the same time BCAA would prevent lean muscle loss since i am going through a caloric deficit diet.

Am i right up till this point?


If so, should i ditch the idea of getting protein powder, and just get BCAA instead, or should i go ahead and get both of them?

Protein powder wise, i would probably be getting BSN Syntha-6 as it has a higher carb value per serving. Something which i probably would need, as i have no plans of taking in any rice/bread or any carb source after my breakfast, which is my first meal. Planning to cap my carb at about 50g per day or maybe slightly more during workout days.


Thanks and sorry for the trouble.

from the desk of gh15:
top 10 GARBAGE useless scam over the counter supplements and what the athlete should use insted in ( )

10. CQ-10. (centrum multi vitamin if ones feel like...not a must)
9. hydroxycut. (herbs vitamins minerals)
8. carbohit-maltodextrin. (white rice with honey)
7. waxy maze/vitargo. (pineapple juice)
6. bcaa. (food)
5. whey protein. (egg white protein)
4. creatine. (anavar,, turinabol/halodrol)
3. Nitric Oxide. (anadrol and equipoise,, if lucky..
FDA gh and Insulin...and if won the
lottery pharmaceutical igf INCRELEX)

2. glutamine. (garlic and vitamin C pills)

1. PROHORMONES. (designer/real steroids)
gh15 approved
lion of Judah
march 10,, 2014

** in creating the above list there was more taken into consideration than the actual junk/individual substance,, I took into consideration the over all impact of the garbage/scam on generations of athletes and thus created this gh15 approved top 10 list,,it was not based on me hating on whey putting it at 5th place and not 10th..it was based on the impact the product had integrated to the psychological effect and the disillusion brought to the athlete... and its magnitude
yes yes its gh15 ..I know how to write well when I want lol,,
dedicated to the next generation athletes,

gh15 approved

 

[lee_tired_sheep]

Bcaa is a staple.

Oh wait sheep has already mentioned. It makes a very big difference for me. Caloric deficit or not.

Unless you're a peptobro

 

[derrickgyn]

from the desk of gh15:
top 10 GARBAGE useless scam over the counter supplements and what the athlete should use insted in ( )

10. CQ-10. (centrum multi vitamin if ones feel like...not a must)
9. hydroxycut. (herbs vitamins minerals)
8. carbohit-maltodextrin. (white rice with honey)
7. waxy maze/vitargo. (pineapple juice)
6. bcaa. (food)
5. whey protein. (egg white protein)
4. creatine. (anavar,, turinabol/halodrol)
3. Nitric Oxide. (anadrol and equipoise,, if lucky..
FDA gh and Insulin...and if won the
lottery pharmaceutical igf INCRELEX)

2. glutamine. (garlic and vitamin C pills)

1. PROHORMONES. (designer/real steroids)
gh15 approved
lion of Judah
march 10,, 2014

** in creating the above list there was more taken into consideration than the actual junk/individual substance,, I took into consideration the over all impact of the garbage/scam on generations of athletes and thus created this gh15 approved top 10 list,,it was not based on me hating on whey putting it at 5th place and not 10th..it was based on the impact the product had integrated to the psychological effect and the disillusion brought to the athlete... and its magnitude
yes yes its gh15 ..I know how to write well when I want lol,,
dedicated to the next generation athletes,

gh15 approved

His list is pretty much accurate if you take in the context of liberal use of trenbolona, HGH and insulin.

 

[derrickgyn]

Unless you're a peptobro

Home made PLAZMA ftw

 

[Hakkaa]

Thanks for the replies guys, i have a planned out meal plan, but i was afraid that alone would not supply me with sufficient protein and BCAA. Especially when i am on the go, i tend to miss my meal time sometimes, which made me think if i should have a protein on hand so i could just drink em up if i am unable to find time for my meal.

6oz = 170grams

And from the above table does that mean i could take about 6oz of chicken breast, or 6 egg whites 30min - 1hour before my cardio at night?

 

[frostbyte88]

Thanks for the replies guys, i have a planned out meal plan, but i was afraid that alone would not supply me with sufficient protein and BCAA. Especially when i am on the go, i tend to miss my meal time sometimes, which made me think if i should have a protein on hand so i could just drink em up if i am unable to find time for my meal.

6oz = 170grams

And from the above table does that mean i could take about 6oz of chicken breast, or 6 egg whites 30min - 1hour before my cardio at night?

Depends on what youre actually using your cardio for. If you still need calories for the day, then go for it. But whether you need to eat before or after a run doesnt really matter if you had already eaten a meal a few hours before.

 

[axxomarketing]

His list is pretty much accurate if you take in the context of liberal use of trenbolona, HGH and insulin.

no man, his list is literally the truth. stop wasting ur time with scam products.

 

[Hakkaa]

Depends on what youre actually using your cardio for. If you still need calories for the day, then go for it. But whether you need to eat before or after a run doesnt really matter if you had already eaten a meal a few hours before.

Hey man thanks, great help.
Am using Cardio, mainly jogging for weight loss and also to improve on my stamina.
My jog timing varies, could range from a short intense run, to a long endurance run that could last about 50 minutes.

I used to do Insanity, but that was months back when i stopped gymming and focused mainly on weight loss. Managed to get my weight from 94 all the way down to about 80, where i recently decided to start going back to gym.

Have a goal of hitting below 15% body fat before september, not sure if i am too ambitious, and also further lower my weight to about 65 ~ 70.

 

[axxomarketing]

Protein powder wise, i would probably be getting BSN Syntha-6 as it has a higher carb value per serving. Something which i probably would need, as i have no plans of taking in any rice/bread or any carb source after my breakfast, which is my first meal. Planning to cap my carb at about 50g per day or maybe slightly more during workout days.

first of all, ditch the protein. i had a few links where they did a research and these protein powders dont have the protein content shown in the label. the best is still Optimum Nutrition, even them are not exactly 25 g of protein tested in lab. more like 21-22 gram. so products like BSN is worse.

next, change ur protein to egg whites. stop eating shite products like protein powder. and u will see ur midsection.

if you dont wanna take rice or bread, then take coconut oil extra virgin, i get mine from iherb, nutiva brand. coconut oil stops my carb/sugar cravings easily.

 

[Hakkaa]

first of all, ditch the protein. i had a few links where they did a research and these protein powders dont have the protein content shown in the label. the best is still Optimum Nutrition, even them are not exactly 25 g of protein tested in lab. more like 21-22 gram. so products like BSN is worse.

next, change ur protein to egg whites. stop eating shite products like protein powder. and u will see ur midsection.

if you dont wanna take rice or bread, then take coconut oil extra virgin, i get mine from iherb, nutiva brand. coconut oil stops my carb/sugar cravings easily.

Thanks for the advice!
I'm not taking any supplements for now, was just wondering if i would need BCAA and protein. Yeap, i do take egg whites, always using the 4:1 ratio, where i will take 3 egg whites and 1 full egg.

Speaking of which, what do you guys do with the egg yolks? Seems like a waste to throw them away. Do NTUC or cold storage sell those kind of egg whites in a carton like they do in the states?

 

[axxomarketing]

Thanks for the advice!
I'm not taking any supplements for now, was just wondering if i would need BCAA and protein. Yeap, i do take egg whites, always using the 4:1 ratio, where i will take 3 egg whites and 1 full egg.

Speaking of which, what do you guys do with the egg yolks? Seems like a waste to throw them away. Do NTUC or cold storage sell those kind of egg whites in a carton like they do in the states?

no, they dont lol. sg dont really sell egg whites... so u need to separate urself.

i personally dont separate it. i take in all half cooked. actually vince gironda advised to take it raw.

when u go to supermarket, look for freedom range eggs. google on why it is good.

stop taking bcaa and protein powders, those are scams. i get big just by taking organic eggs. 6-12 eggs per day. i eat the yolks too.