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I bought JM (for convenience) as well as protocol max budle with daybreak.

after i used the protocol, i just never used the JM. Hence JM will be my backup

Actually there is one i think i might get next upgrade. Yu9que.
 

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I bought JM (for convenience) as well as protocol max budle with daybreak.

after i used the protocol, i just never used the JM. Hence JM will be my backup

Actually there is one i think i might get next upgrade. Yu9que.
Protocol Max reminds me of FiiO KA13... :ROFLMAO:
 

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Definitely don't get the IE200 at 150 USD... It's not worth at that price point. I got mine at 120+ SGD 2 years ago.

I'm surprised to see IE200 still being recommended (even by actual humans) at this price point. Personally, I feel that there are sets out there that cost the same or less that sound better out of the box than IE200. But they are indeed super comfortable, like they've disappeared while wearing it, and compatible for side sleepers. The sound profile is also relatively inoffensive. Downsides are the gimmicky ear tips and the (personal opinion) crappy thin twisted cable. (Both of which I spent more money to "rectify", but it's a small price to pay)

After getting KZ PRX, I'm more inclined to sell my current S12, than to let go of my IE200, to put it simply.
Actually I've been wanting to upgrade my very old IE8. I only recently came back to this hobby.
 

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Actually I've been wanting to upgrade my very old IE8. I only recently came back to this hobby.
Can try Chifi lor... I only ask for KZ and CCA since these are IEMs I am more familiar with, but KZ Castor you can look at the newer upgraded KZ Castor Pro (Bass Enhanced Edition), these are dual dynamic drivers IEM.

CCA Trio is fine... KZ is Vader and Vader now have an upgraded version KZ Vader Pro, these are triple dynamic drivers.

KZ ZS10 Pro X I think is older model the better and more famous model I think is KZ ZS10 Pro 2, these are single dynamic driver + 4 Balanced Armature hybrids.

(AI Overview

The KZ ZS10 Pro 2 is a refined successor to the ZS10 Pro X, offering a cleaner, smoother, and more balanced sound with better mids/vocals and less peaky treble, thanks to updated drivers and a new crossover, plus helpful tuning switches, while the Pro X has a punchier, more V-shaped sound with more sub-bass and a fun, energetic vibe, making the Pro 2 better for balanced listening (rock, classical) and the Pro X great for bass-heavy genres, despite the Pro X having a metal nozzle and the Pro 2 a plastic one.
Here's a breakdown of the key differences:
KZ ZS10 Pro X (The Fun V-Shape)
  • Sound Profile: Energetic, fun, V-shaped, with emphasized bass (especially sub-bass) and treble.
  • Bass: More boominess, fuller sub-bass, good for bass-heavy music.
  • Mids: More recessed compared to the Pro 2.
  • Treble: Can have a peaky, slightly harsh 8kHz region, but provides zing.
  • Nozzle: Metal.
  • Tuning: No physical switches.
KZ ZS10 Pro 2 (The Refined Upgrade)
  • Sound Profile: Cleaner, more mature, refined, balanced, with a smoother, less peaky presentation.
  • Bass: Better controlled, cleaner, but can still achieve significant bass with switches.
  • Mids: More forward and clearer vocals/instruments.
  • Treble: Smoother, more detailed sparkle without the harshness of the Pro X.
  • Nozzle: Plastic.
  • Tuning: Features 4 physical switches for sound customization (bass/treble adjustments).
Which to Choose?
  • Choose the Pro X if: You love a strong, bassy, energetic sound and don't mind some potential treble peakiness for fun, or if you want a great value "fun" IEM.
  • Choose the Pro 2 if: You want a significant step up in clarity, better vocals, smoother treble, more versatile tuning options via switches, and a more balanced, detailed sound for various genres.
In essence: The ZS10 Pro 2 is an evolution, offering a more technically proficient and versatile experience over the already popular ZS10 Pro X. )

And these ranges from under SGD $20 (Castor Pro), to around $30 (Vader Pro), to $42++ (ZS10 Pro 2) on shopee. You buy a single IE200... I think you can get all 3 to play around with and still got change to spare. :ROFLMAO:


AI Overview

Many current Chi-Fi IEMs from KZ and CCA offer a significant
technical upgrade in clarity, detail retrieval, and tuning compared to the older Sennheiser IE8. The main difference you may notice is a more refined sound, though you might need to select models known for a warmer, bassier signature to match the IE8's characteristic low-end "thump" and natural timbre.
Here are some possible KZ and CCA upgrades, focusing on models generally well-regarded for their performance and potentially suitable sound profile:

Recommended KZ & CCA IEM Upgrades
  • KZ Castor (Bass Enhanced Edition)
    • Sound Profile: This model is specifically tuned for bass lovers, offering deep, impactful bass that can be quite satisfying for those coming from a bass-heavy IEM like the IE8. It features dual dynamic drivers and customizable tuning switches that allow you to adjust the bass levels to your preference.
    • Why it's an upgrade: The Castor provides excellent value for money with robust bass performance and much better overall clarity than older dynamic driver IEMs, especially when paired with a good source and eartips.
  • CCA Trio
    • Sound Profile: The CCA Trio (which is very similar to the KZ Vader) is a triple dynamic driver IEM praised for its wide soundstage and strong bass slam. Like the Castor, it includes tuning switches to tailor the sound. Reviewers note it offers impressive technical performance and a very engaging, cinematic experience.
    • Why it's an upgrade: This IEM delivers a big sound with great dynamics and imaging for its price point, surpassing the technical limitations of older designs like the IE8.
  • KZ ZS10 Pro X
    • Sound Profile: An upgraded version of a very popular model, the ZS10 Pro X uses a hybrid setup (1 dynamic driver + 4 balanced armatures) to deliver a more balanced and detailed sound compared to the purely dynamic IE8. It provides crisp treble and clear mids, while the dynamic driver ensures a present and punchy, though perhaps less overwhelming, bass than the dedicated "bass edition" models.
    • Why it's an upgrade: If you want a more analytical sound with greater precision across all frequencies while still retaining solid bass, the ZS10 Pro X is a versatile and technically capable option.

Key Considerations for Your Upgrade
  • Eartips are Crucial: The fit and seal of Chi-Fi IEMs can sometimes be hit-or-miss with the stock eartips. Upgrading to aftermarket eartips (like Moondrop Spring Tips or SpinFits) often significantly improves comfort, seal, and sound quality, especially the bass response.
  • Source Pairing: Modern Chi-Fi IEMs are generally efficient, but a decent DAC/Amp or even a simple dongle DAC can sometimes further enhance their performance and soundstage, depending on the model.
Ultimately, an IEM from the current KZ or CCA lineup in the sub-$50 price range will likely offer a noticeable step up in modern audio fidelity and build quality over an aging IE8.
 

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I missed the days of listening to my Westone 3 on my Sansa clip

These days just using wireless Bluetooth earphones from my phone

Maybe time to get back to IEMs for the warm fuzzy feeling? Mostly nostalgia haha
 

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I missed the days of listening to my Westone 3 on my Sansa clip

These days just using wireless Bluetooth earphones from my phone

Maybe time to get back to IEMs for the warm fuzzy feeling? Mostly nostalgia haha

Last night, I also pulled out my Sony MH755 and Koss KSC75 to use with my 换身-iPod. To "relive" an era I never had a chance to experience myself back then. :o

After a few tracks, I was back to my Sundara and modern DAC+amp dongle. :s13:
 

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I missed the days of listening to my Westone 3 on my Sansa clip

These days just using wireless Bluetooth earphones from my phone

Maybe time to get back to IEMs for the warm fuzzy feeling? Mostly nostalgia haha
Me too. :s13:

Lightweight.

Now i use Ibasso DX340 + my old school IE8. Still considering whether to change because i use custom tip.
 

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yes! after i got my first iem, i was introduced to these!
I wont be so rash to upgrade hahaha just looking out for future deals and potential while learning more about these world. They even have thosefrequency graph which i was shoked.

As for headphone. i also just recently buy xm6 before the iem to rotate. this is a slippery slope hahahaha.
This one got a lot of hype recently :)

Fiio JT7

 

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This one got a lot of hype recently :)

Fiio JT7


For headphone, I stick to 1 brand only because I love their sound signature but then again, now all chuck 1 side totally never use.

I have MX 330, DT 770 Pro (250) and DT 990 Pro(600).
 

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Single Dynamic Driver IEM.. around $50 USD... price wise quite close to KZ Zenith I think but the accessories actually quite nice.

Saw on Shopee around $62... so cheaper than KZ Zenith..
 

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Can someone explain why I can no longer enjoy 8D songs? I used to be able to hear the sound moving around my head, but now it's just going from soft to loud—there's no more surround effect.
 
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