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Hello everyone, I'm looking to build a gaming PC with ryzen 7 2700k, plan to OC and future proof for another 5 years. Usage mainly gaming and open many VMs. Does not require monitor, keyboard, mouse, speaker. Anyone has recommendations? Any advice would be appreciated and thank you in advance!

Budget abt 2 to 2.5k
 
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Hello everyone, I'm looking to build a gaming PC with ryzen 7 2700k, plan to OC and future proof for another 5 years. Usage mainly gaming and open many VMs. Does not require monitor, keyboard, mouse, speaker. Anyone has recommendations? Any advice would be appreciated and thank you in advance!

Budget abt 1.5 to 2k

ryzen 7 1700x will save u the money for more ram. Head to newegg for ddr4 2x16Gb kits & 2tb SSDs. You will need it for VMs

sample build.

https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/hardware-clinic-2/please-help-optimise-build-5984256.html
 
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if you wanna overclock, get x370 / x470 mobo, b450 not good for OC

idk about you. but i've been running 1700x at 3.925ghz at 1.325v for about a year on a b450 bo taiji sia.

so i cannot justify the x470 purchase/premium unless u really going for extreme overclocks
 

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Any compatibility issue for this G.SKILL Sniper X ram ?
Which x470 board should i get?
 

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Any compatibility issue for this G.SKILL Sniper X ram ?
Which x470 board should i get?

for ram. any ddr4 you can run at least 2666mhz stable confirmed. This one to run at the rated might be a little risky as i only see intel boards tested.

x470 need ask other people liao. For me i so far build ryzen builds all quite lucky. mostly can hit the optimum ghz with the minimal voltage regardless of board. except one b350m asrock la. that board damn ****. LOL
 

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Hello everyone, I'm looking to build a gaming PC with ryzen 7 2700k, plan to OC and future proof for another 5 years. Usage mainly gaming and open many VMs. Does not require monitor, keyboard, mouse, speaker. Anyone has recommendations? Any advice would be appreciated and thank you in advance!

Budget abt 2 to 2.5k

first thing to consider when overclocking

1) get a motherboard with extended VRM heatsink as shown in the pics below


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idk about you. but i've been running 1700x at 3.925ghz at 1.325v for about a year on a b450 bo taiji sia.

so i cannot justify the x470 purchase/premium unless u really going for extreme overclocks


Also depending on which b450 u buy la. Need to have good vrm
 

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1st of all why overclock? I prefer to fine tune running smoothly with lower temps. I don't want a heater beside me with loud fans running try to cool the cpu. Sg very hot.

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To oc rams, wat speed to get?

Ddr4 2666,2933,3000 or 3200?
 

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Which board is a better option : GIGABYTE X470 AORUS ULTRA GAMING Or MSI X470 GAMING PLUS? If not any other options to recommend?
What happen if the ram is 3600 is placed, can it work aka get reduced speed ?
 

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Which board is a better option : GIGABYTE X470 AORUS ULTRA GAMING Or MSI X470 GAMING PLUS? If not any other options to recommend?
What happen if the ram is 3600 is placed, can it work aka get reduced speed ?

Yes you may. All ddr4 ram will work on any b350 b450 x370 x470 boards. By right all default bios will run all rams at 2133mhz when you first insert it.

So how it works is. You buy a 3600mhz rated ram. You plug it into a new motherboard. Straight away when you turn it on. The rams will run at 2133mhz. You have 2 choices.

1 is to turn on xmp, if your bios allows it. What xmp is that its a profile that is set by the "maker" of the rams, clock speed, voltage that allows it to run at the rated speed. Its important that if you want to purely use xmp profile, you have to search for ryzen rated ram. This is because xmp is generally tested on intel boards.

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here are some examples of ryzen ram. I loosely use the term ryzen ram because the "makers" have already tested these rams on ryzen boards and know that those settings will work.

2. is to manually overclock ram, rams although rated to run at a certain speed sometimes can be overclocked. that being said. Sometimes the xmp profile may not be stable on your board, reason being maybe you bought a non ryzen tested ram and the xmp profile just does not work. Or you are just unlucky and you got bad ram. Usually 2666mhz is the safe speed. Because all 2666mhz and above ram regardless of what board you are using intel or ryzen. It will be able to run at 2666mhz MINIMUM no problem. anything above that you will have to test the stability of the ram yourself.

The basic idea of overclocking ram is similar to overclocking a processor. You first increase the speed. Test for stability, then increase again. Until you get a unstable speed. Increase the voltage. Test again. Rinse and repeat. I recommend that you do a little research before you overclock your ram, and try to never go above 1.35v for ram voltage.
 

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Good read.
Is there a safe list of rams to buy that will work with any amd board?

There r so many brands, corsair, gskill patriot, Kingston, geil, Team, crucial.
And within each brand so many series
During sale like GF, really difficult to decide when all become cheaper
 

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Good read.
Is there a safe list of rams to buy that will work with any amd board?

There r so many brands, corsair, gskill patriot, Kingston, geil, Team, crucial.
And within each brand so many series
During sale like GF, really difficult to decide when all become cheaper

You can go google for the official website site, individual motherboard where they will list of tested ram.
 

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If want to overclock, just take note that Ryzen CPU don't have too much room for OC. (Not like Intel k CPU)

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If want to overclock, just take note that Ryzen CPU don't have too much room for OC. (Not like Intel k CPU)

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Depends on the mobo. Ryzen cpus OC to a lower speed across MORE cores. Which is not the same as 'less room'. Theres a reason intel cpus even when OC'd dont ever beat Ryzen chips in multicore scores and performance.
 

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I think what he meant is that generally intel cpus can experience a 15 to 20% boost when you max overclock.
For eg 4.2ghz to 5.1ghz

But ryzen you only gain maybe 5 to 10% 3.8ghz to 4.2ghz

but yes multitasking wise ryzen is a beast. I have a ryzen 1700x 3.925ghz all cores and i can forget to turn off csgo and play pubg sometimes. Lol

Depends on the mobo. Ryzen cpus OC to a lower speed across MORE cores. Which is not the same as 'less room'. Theres a reason intel cpus even when OC'd dont ever beat Ryzen chips in multicore scores and performance.
 

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I think what he meant is that generally intel cpus can experience a 15 to 20% boost when you max overclock.
For eg 4.2ghz to 5.1ghz

But ryzen you only gain maybe 5 to 10% 3.8ghz to 4.2ghz

but yes multitasking wise ryzen is a beast. I have a ryzen 1700x 3.925ghz all cores and i can forget to turn off csgo and play pubg sometimes. Lol

My point exactly. The comparison cant be made linearly core to core since you're comparing say, 4.8ghz across 6 cores to 4.3ghz across 8 cores.
 
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