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Alibaba shares erased gains in premarket trading, down around 1.5% after the results.
Henry RenEquities Reporter

look at pre market

Pre-market 93.32 +2.74 (3.02%)

Classic doomberg fake news
The doomberg fake news works siah. Whole world need to ban these kind of news.
 

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The doomberg fake news works siah. Whole world need to ban these kind of news.
From up 4% premarket to down 2%

Other US coy talk about AI is instant up 30% but for alibaba it became like this

Doomberg:
"Alibaba's stock turns lower as investments to meet Al demand hurt profitability DJ 9 hours ago"
 

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IF there is demand, this port would be there long ago. Throwing a big port and expect export business to grow is like putting cart before the horse.
https://wits.worldbank.org/CountryProfile/en/Country/PER/Year/LTST/TradeFlow/Export/Partner/all/
Peru's largest export is China and China's export is to US and EU.
That port was planned FIVE YEARS AGO to serve trans-shipments throughout LatAm, not just Peru. In fact, the entire port strategy centred on Chancay was Peru's idea since 2008. (ref: SCMP)
You're not up to date about LatAm too.

China’s Online Retail Giants Transform Shopping Habits in Latin America
https://ticotimes.net/2024/11/13/ch...ts-transform-shopping-habits-in-latin-america

For Isidora Olave, shopping malls are a thing of the past. This young Chilean shops on Shein, Temu, or AliExpress—the ultra-cheap Chinese online stores whose aggressive competition is pushing Latin America to protect its retail trade.University-aged women, active on social media but above all lovers of “ultra-fast fashion” (very low-priced fast fashion), Olave and her group of friends are part of the global trend of on-demand consumers.

“I bought from Shein because I needed it for a specific occasion and it was cheaper than buying it here in Chile,” says this 20-year-old dentistry student.She has just opened the latest package sent from China: a T-shirt, a skirt, and a set of adhesive glitter. They cost 15 dollars, half of what she would have paid in a local store, she assures.

According to Statista, the specialized data site, in 2022 online commerce moved 122 billion dollars in Latin America and could reach 200 billion in 2026.AliExpress, Shein, and Temu are behind this formidable expansion, confirming China’s weight in the region, historically an area of influence for the United States.

In an additional sign of its advancement, China plans to inaugurate the mega-port of Chancay in Peru during the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) summit being held this week in Lima.

BYD’s first factory warehouse in Brazil to be ready in October​

https://valorinternational.globo.co...ehouse-in-brazil-to-be-ready-in-october.ghtml

Reviewing a photo gallery on his cell phone, BYD Brasil’s vice-president, Alexandre Baldy, beams with pride at a particular image: a vast 120,000 square meter warehouse under construction in Camaçari, Bahia. This warehouse marks the initial phase of BYD’s expansive project in Brazil. The first production line is expected to launch in October, and the inaugural BYD vehicles assembled in the 210-million-people country will be rolled out later this year.

Though the image was initially intended for internal use, it symbolizes the significant strides BYD, China’s largest electric vehicle manufacturer, is making in its global industrial expansion.

Currently, approximately 1,200 workers are transforming the site, previously occupied by a Ford factory until 2021. The site’s transformation is a testament to the shift from its American automotive past.

The Camaçari project is bustling with technicians and engineers on site who are focused not just on construction activities but also on a vibrant exchange of knowledge and expertise. This international collaboration is further highlighted as around 100 Brazilian employees prepare for a trip to China in September, complemented by Chinese colleagues who continue to arrive in Brazil.

According to Mr. Baldy, initially, the cars at the nascent facility will be assembled using parts kits shipped from China. Complete localization, including sourcing components from suppliers for ethanol-powered hybrid vehicles, is slated to begin in 2025.

The equipment for the assembly line is also being sourced from Asia. “It’s already at sea, on its way here,”
explains Mr. Baldy, who hails from Goiás and holds a law degree. After an extensive stint in the public sector, he transitioned to BYD, quickly ascending the company’s career ladder.

BYD established its presence in Brazil in 2013, initially focusing on commercial vehicles. It constructed an assembly line for buses and photovoltaic modules in Campinas, in the state of São Paulo, and later set up a lithium iron phosphate battery assembly plant in Manaus. The company also imports fully electric trucks and machinery, such as forklifts, and is engaged in a monorail project in São Paulo (Line 17-Ouro of the metro).
In March, BYD’s management finalized a deal with the government of Bahia, acquiring the land and factory previously owned by Ford for R$287.8 million. The site spans 4.6 million square meters.

That same month, BYD’s global vice-president, Stella Li, met with Governor Jerônimo Rodrigues of Bahia to announce an increase in the company’s investment in Camaçari, from R$3 billion to R$5.5 billion. Earlier, in January, the group had raised its initial employment projection in Bahia from 5,000 to 10,000 jobs.
When asked whether becoming a local producer would lead to joining the National Association of Motor Vehicle Manufacturers (ANFAVEA), Mr. Baldy said, “We haven’t thought about it yet. But we want to gain the consumer’s trust so that they see us as a Brazilian brand.”

Translation: Todd Harkin
 
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IF there is demand, this port would be there long ago. Throwing a big port and expect export business to grow is like putting cart before the horse.
https://wits.worldbank.org/CountryProfile/en/Country/PER/Year/LTST/TradeFlow/Export/Partner/all/
Peru's largest export is China and China's export is to US and EU.

A port with 4 berths is not a very big port, PSA has 55 berths in Singapore. COSCO plans to use it as a transhipment point to other LATAM countries. The total cost of US$3.5b is for a full build-up, for now, the cost is a third of that.

Also, the port may be more than just a commercial port. The water there is deep enough to accommodate the largest commercial and non-commercial vessels.

https://maritime-executive.com/article/china-s-navy-could-use-peru-s-new-mega-port
 

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Realistic bearish assessment. Policies still DO NOT promote consumption. Structural issue.
I fully agree. Me here in Singapore also not spending alot relative to savings rate.


It’s like what I said some time ago, they are keeping dry powder for trade war 2.0 with Trump, no reason for them to frontrun the tariffs with stimulus.

SG is a tiny economy lah, trade is 3x our gdp but nobody cares because we are small, no way China’s economy can be modelled like ours in the long run.
 

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A port with 4 berths is not a very big port, PSA has 55 berths in Singapore. COSCO plans to use it as a transhipment point to other LATAM countries. The total cost of US$3.5b is for a full build-up, for now, the cost is a third of that.

Also, the port may be more than just a commercial port. The water there is deep enough to accommodate the largest commercial and non-commercial vessels.

https://maritime-executive.com/article/china-s-navy-could-use-peru-s-new-mega-port
https://merics.org/en/comment/mapping-chinas-global-port-network-backfoot-2024-still-well-entrenched

They are everywhere. What had happened to Sri Lanka? I hope it's just an isolated case.
 

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https://merics.org/en/comment/mapping-chinas-global-port-network-backfoot-2024-still-well-entrenched

They are everywhere. What had happened to Sri Lanka? I hope it's just an isolated case.

Which Sri Lanka port? The HIPG? It seems that they have been doing very well lately after the Chinese took over. This was reported by SCMP.
https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/econ..._Recommended_for_you_In-house&pgtype=homepage

If cannot read the full article on SCMP. Someone has extracted them over here.
https://defencepk.com/forums/thread...et-to-debunk-narrative-with-its-success.7608/

Growth this year is expected to be 40% to 50% which should indeed be isolated because other ports within CMP do not register similar growth. The other CICT port in Sri Lanka which CMP also have a stake only grew at a rate of 8.5% in 1H 24. CMP is listed on HKex, the operating stats are public.
https://www.hellenicshippingnews.com/hambantota-international-port-projects-50-growth/
 
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CSRC Issues Guidelines on Mkt Cap Mgmt, Asks Listing Companies to Raise Profitability​

China Securities Regulatory Commission (CSRC) issued the “Regulatory Guidelines for Listed Companies No. 10 - Market Cap Management”, which will come into effect on the date of issuance, in order to thoroughly implement the Certain Opinions of the State Council on Strengthening Supervision and Preventing Risks and Promoting the High-quality Development of Capital Markets, further guide listed companies to pay heed to their investment value and enhance investor returns

The Guidelines require listed companies to take improvement of the quality of the company as the foundation, enhance operational efficiency and profitability, and make use of mergers and acquisitions, reorganizations, equity incentives, employee stock ownership plans, cash dividends, investor relations management, information disclosure, share repurchases and other means in accordance with the law and regulations in the light of the actual situation, so as to promote the value of the listed company's investments to reflect the quality of the listed company in a reasonable manner.

http://www.aastocks.com/en/stocks/news/aafn-con/NOW.1397114/latest-news/AAFN

Chinese banks surge as CSRC guideline urging more shareholder returns lifts confidence​

https://www.scmp.com/business/china...ing-more-shareholder-returns-lifts-confidence
 

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Midea (300.HK), just recently IPOed, is now consolidating at a horizontal support, but still below the 10-day EMA (i.e. momentum is still downwards).

For theory about trading new IPOs, refer to:
(becareful of one-hit wonders)
 
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Looks like it. When even the staunchest bulls drop out means it is the lowest point liao. 😂
Should be around these two weeks till early Dec.

I think he too stressed
Hyped China but market don't reflect
His followers prolly everyday hound him why why why 😓
He'll have to learn the hard way. I trade the gold and silver sector, and I maintain my sanity by selling into strength & locking in profits instead of bagholding through corrections. Once he learns to swing trade instead of holding long-term every single stock, his portfolio equity curve will improve alot.
 
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