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Any1 here know anything abt vans? coz i want to start a service business will need to get a small van. Im thinking of various..like opel combo, fiat, renault, citreon. even suzuki carry.
Now commercial cars coe is so high..
but i want to noe which is better, ppl say fiat is not good blah blah. But i want to find out more before i go down and have a test drive
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Japanese makes are more economical as they are cheaper to maintain. Parts can be found easily too. Continental makes are expensive to maintain and not many workshops is keen to service or repair them.
 
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jap is ex leh.. im in love with nissan nv200 but wah so expensive..im thinking of opel combo 1.7. cheapest among all..any suggestions on that?
 

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if u r starting out a new biz without predictable cashflow...
try to avoid buying new and expensive vans

a second hand van is probably enough...
my father has bought 2 vans from the previous owners who are overzealous in their biz but things didnt turn out as good.....
they ended up selling the veh after 1 year with a lot of losses

a 2004 kangoo or liteace will probably cost u less than 10k
 

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jap is ex leh.. im in love with nissan nv200 but wah so expensive..im thinking of opel combo 1.7. cheapest among all..any suggestions on that?
seriously.. nv200 is small and is quite underpowered and is very overpriced for its small size. it doesnt come with auto transmission.

i drive a fiat doblo 1.9 manual, when it comes to business, the manual transmission makes life difficult when it comes to multitasking in the car.

dont believe when someone tells you continental vans are difficult to service as parts are rare. look at the roads, everywhere you go you can see continental vans. almost all the workshop can service those vans. besides, there are plenty of workshop recommendations online. yes, parts are more expensive than japanese vans, but they are no astronomically expensive.

one more thing, like all continental vehicles, it has a very strong sturdy build. if you happen to meet any accident into any japanese vehicles, you can expect your van to look just as it is while the japanese counterpart looks as if its missing something

opel combo is good. u can try vw caddy too.
 

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I personally have driven a toyota liteace for the past 7.5 yrs and it has never given me any mechanical problems. The $ spent is always just the regular servicing.

My neighbour who drives a peugeot partner says it's a nightmare to repair. He spent more than a few thousand to repair it recently.

I bought my van in 2003 when the most common model vans on the roads were the citroen berlingo and renault kangoo. I wanted 1 like that myself because such euro-vans are more car-like and the reason my family bought a van at that time was to use was because we couldn't afford a car. However my dad steadfast demanded a liteace and hence we had to buy it. On hindsight, that probably was a very good decision.

Today, the liteace is probably the most common van leftover from those years still on the roads. No surprise where most of the berlingos and kangoos went; the scrapyard. I think that in itself is testimonial to the reliability of the liteace. if you can, just get a 2nd hand liteace with some years left. It is truly a workhorse.
 

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Jap vans require less maintanence and their parts are cheap , but, their initial cost is almost x2 or x3 that of a eurovan , when it comes to 2nd hand purchases, their depreciation is normally 6k to 9 k , compared to eurovans which have a average of 3k to 4k

Renault parts are the cheapest among the euro van types, but they just arent built to last.

opel parts are very expensive, as the engine components are larger than the rest, most powerful among the eurovans , but when it reaches the 100k milage , good luck . you can buy a new 2nd hand van from the repair cost thats gona incurr over the years.

vw parts are cheaper than opel and quite lasting , but , the way they construct the vehicle is absurdly complicated and u better have a workshop who knows what they are doing , most workshop dont know and they make a mess out of it , i.e problems arises after servicing etc, dont mess with their electrical system if you dont know what you;re doing.

peugeot dont even consider, most number of breakdowns compared to the other brands

citroen , i dont know much abt it , but yeah , its pretty similar to peugeot , except for maybe their engine .

Fiat parts are DAMN expensive , but they have the nicest comfort among all the vans , and yeah , you have to wait for their spare parts. and they cost a bomb , but im pretty sure oem parts can be found in the market now .

jap vans generally have lesser problems , but they cost a whole lot more . at the start.
 

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oh yeah, one more thing, do the environment a favour.. be it jap or euro, do make sure it is the latest euro 4/5 model.

continental vans are generally euro 4/5, but older vans are euro 2/3.

so if you are getting 2nd hand, please think of the environment :D
 

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Anyone can share with me how to register a commerical van under my company? Do i just to a 2nd hand dealer ask him to register the van under my company? Then insurance is to my company or to the named driver?
 

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Anyone can share with me how to register a commerical van under my company? Do i just to a 2nd hand dealer ask him to register the van under my company? Then insurance is to my company or to the named driver?

Dun really need a company. A business also can. The insurance is under the company or business.
 

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hi, if i'm a Sole-Proprietorship , able to register those van myself under my Sole-Proprietorship ?
 

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hi, if i'm a Sole-Proprietorship , able to register those van myself under my Sole-Proprietorship ?
yup. if in tpt.biz, can apply pa plate to add fixed seats. else, can hv loose sofa unfixed during inspection. Panel btwn. cabin and back can be removed. can fix glass on side panels.
 

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Any1 here know anything abt vans? coz i want to start a service business will need to get a small van. Im thinking of various..like opel combo, fiat, renault, citreon. even suzuki carry.
Now commercial cars coe is so high..
but i want to noe which is better, ppl say fiat is not good blah blah. But i want to find out more before i go down and have a test drive
Thanks

Before u buy that G plate, first ask yourself what your service business requires. Since u are only looking at a small van, my suggestion is to go straight for a used private plate station wagon eg toyota wish.

G plate cars got speed limit. I already see many G plate going on e-way 1st lane travelling at 90-100. Lesen akan gantung sooner or later.

Dont waste time on a G plate. Buy a car, remove the seats if u really need to. Best is just leave them there. Fold it down can already. This is what some LTA road and mrt contractors do. Also seen private aircon service cars using S plate with pax seat filled with tools and parts.

Time is money. Get S plate and go full speed on lane 1. Better yet, just use existing family car and test out your business idea. See can jalan or not.
 
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Frankly speaking, would not say Jap Van spare sparts are cheaper but there are more options for you (new, refurbished and scrap parts)

Got a Nissan urvan and after 8 years, all sorts or problems came up. Took my time to repair and 1yr after renewing Coe, still serving me well. My load can be quite heavy one

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Before u buy that G plate, first ask yourself what your service business requires. Since u are only looking at a small van, my suggestion is to go straight for a used private plate station wagon eg toyota wish.

G plate cars got speed limit. I already see many G plate going on e-way 1st lane travelling at 90-100. Lesen akan gantung sooner or later.

Dont waste time on a G plate. Buy a car, remove the seats if u really need to. Best is just leave them there. Fold it down can already. This is what some LTA road and mrt contractors do. Also seen private aircon service cars using S plate with pax seat filled with tools and parts.

Time is money. Get S plate and go full speed on lane 1. Better yet, just use existing family car and test out your business idea. See can jalan or not.
S plate expenses is non tax deductible.
Petrol not cheap.

Unless you low mileage,than ok.

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