[CONSOLIDATED] Israel & Palestine Hamas conflict updates [History Discussion and stirring against any religion NOT ALLOWED]

[edwardZ]

how true? but won't be surprised anyway at all these behind the scenes high level people playing god.

 

[Ghostpel]

this is somebody's else war, why make it your war? too free is it?

why fight with fellow singaporeans over outsiders? unless you are no Singaporeans, maybe you shouldnt be in this thread then

Agree. Unfortunately, tribalism run strong in a certain group here. I am disappointed that our gov didn’t address the issue of tribalistic thinking in the recent parliament sitting. The lack of political will to point this out and denounce it is akin to condoning it.

 

[Evil Slayer]

how true? but won't be surprised anyway at all these behind the scenes high level people playing god.

Well, the lack of any punitive military action from any big players in the Middle East speaks a lot as this is an unprecedented chance for the big boys in the area to rid themselves of an extremist organisation that wants to create a theocracy in place of a Monarchy/Democracy at the cost of zero lives lost in their own military.

Of course, they want the IDF to continue lah. Heck, they might even splash the cash just to lobby the big political parties in Israel to continue the anti-terrorism operation.

 

[Ghostpel]

Freed Israeli hostages tell families of beatings and death threats​

“Deborah Cohen told France's BFM TV she had been told her 12-year-old nephew Eitan Yahalomi and others were beaten by Gazan residents on arrival in the enclave after the Hamas rampage. She said his captors made him watch footage of the Hamas violence.

"I had to put my ear close to her mouth to hear. In captivity she was told not to make any noise. You can see the terror in her eyes,"

“Officials at Israeli hospitals say hostages experienced poor nutritional health, and many with chronic diseases were denied medical treatment, causing serious health problems.

Elma Avraham, 84, released on Sunday, was in a "fight for her life," according to hospital staff.

They held her in terrible conditions," daughter Tali Amano said. My mother arrived hours before we would have lost her."

He told CNN the children thought they were being taken to the toilet but the militants "handcuffed them, blindfolded them, (and) took them to the car that took them to the place where they were being handed over to the Red Cross."

https://www.reuters.com/world/middl...l-families-beatings-death-threats-2023-11-29/

 

[Ghostpel]

Another piece of evidence showing the waving is wayang.



Teenager hostage shrugged off after hamas left.

 

[Ghostpel]

Women were held in cages, Israeli hostage testimonies expose​

These testimonies sharply contradict Hamas' claims of humane treatment or propaganda images of smiling abductees waving to their captors

claim supported by videos from Hamas' Telegram channel in the aftermath of the October 7 attacks.

https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/isra...d-in-cages-israeli-hostage-testimonies-expose

 

[doogyhatts]

Tunnel is 15 meters deep.

 

[SkyShroud]

Very scary

 

[enigmastar]

muahahahahahahaha
let see if israel can get the ny times editor fired



"Israel knew Hamas’ plan one YEAR ago “Israeli officials were in possession of a 40-page battle plan, code-named “Jericho Wall,” that detailed a hypothetical Hamas attack” This is called LIHOP — Let it Happen on Purpose. Perfect excuse for ethnic cleansing and annexing Gaza."


https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/30/world/middleeast/israel-hamas-attack-intelligence.html

Do you mind showing where is this line in the nyt article?

Israel knew Hamas’ plan one YEAR ago “Israeli officials were in possession of a 40-"page battle plan, code-named “Jericho Wall,” that detailed a hypothetical Hamas attack” This is called LIHOP — Let it Happen on Purpose. Perfect excuse for ethnic cleansing and annexing Gaza."

I read the article its seem to indicate Israel dismissed as an inspiration as it was too difficult to carry it out. Where did the LIHOP come in?

 

[doogyhatts]

 

[DFR6868]

Do you mind showing where is this line in the nyt article?

Israel knew Hamas’ plan one YEAR ago “Israeli officials were in possession of a 40-"page battle plan, code-named “Jericho Wall,” that detailed a hypothetical Hamas attack” This is called LIHOP — Let it Happen on Purpose. Perfect excuse for ethnic cleansing and annexing Gaza."

I read the article its seem to indicate Israel dismissed as an inspiration as it was too difficult to carry it out. Where did the LIHOP come in?

abductive reasoning needed or rather not being shown here.

 

[SkyShroud]

HAMA united Israel

 

[enigmastar]

abductive reasoning needed or rather not being shown here.

Rather its your own conclusion and not actually shown / suggested in the article you posted.

And your conclusion definitely will not "let see if israel can get the ny times editor fired" cause in the article it did not suggest anything about "LIHOP" or "Perfect excuse for ethnic cleansing and annexing Gaza."

Hope that is clear.

 

[andyhtc]

It looks like Israel wants to wipe out Palestine in Gaza.

My take is Israel will take over the administration of Gaza after the war and Gaza effectively becomes a pseudo-Israel state.

Israel presses ground offensive in southern Gaza, air strikes intensify​

https://www.straitstimes.com/world/...to-hit-zones-declared-safe-for-gaza-civilians

 

[duatiaoloh]

Hamas rocket hit Israeli base containing nuclear missiles, says report​

Hamas fired a barrage of rockets into Israel on Oct 7

An Israeli military base where nuclear weapons are said to be stored, was struck by a missile fired by Hamas on Oct 7, according to a media report.

The report said while the nuclear-capable missiles themselves were not hit, the attack triggered a blaze close to storage facilities and other sensitive weaponry.

The Israeli Defence Force (IDF) has so far refused to comment on the claims, made in a report by The New York Times.

The report said the Hamas rocket hit inside the perimeter of the Sdot Micha base, which is located 25 miles northeast of Gaza and 15 miles west of Jerusalem. It struck at 10am and appeared to land in a small ravine. The explosion started a fire in the dry vegetation.

The assertion, based on photographic evidence, comes as the Israeli military continues its operations throughout Gaza, and with partners such as the US calling on Israel to minimise the number of civilian casualties.

The Health Ministry in Hamas-run Gaza said the death toll in the territory since Oct 7 has now surpassed 15,500.

If the report is confirmed it would only trigger more concern in Israel and the wider region.

Hamas’s Oct 7 assault on Israel, which killed at least 1,200 people and saw up to 250 taken hostage, began with the firing of thousands of rockets by Hamas into Israel from Gaza. The intention was to act as both a diversion and overwhelm Israel’s Iron Dome air defence system.

An Israeli tank fires on Hamas positions on Monday




The report said it was unclear whether the strike at the base was simply part of general barrage, or if Hamas knew it was striking a base with nuclear-capable missiles. Hamas has yet to comment on the report.
In what it has termed a tactic of intentional strategic ambiguity, Israel has never confirmed or denied reports of possessing a nuclear arsenal.
But reports say it may have developed its first weapon in the late 1960s, after the end of the 1967 Six-Day War.
The Washington-DC-based non-profit The Arms Control Association calculates that Israel possesses around 90 warheads.
If that it the case, Israel would be 8th in a list of nations possessing nuclear weapons, behind Russia, the US, China, France, the UK, Pakistan, and India. It would be ahead of North Korea, which is believed to have 30 such weapons.
Daryl Kimball, executive director of the Arms Control Association, told The Telegraph it was unclear whether Hamas “targeted that facility because they thought that it might involve nuclear armed Jericho missiles or not.”
He added: “But this is one of the inherent risks when a country that’s armed with nuclear weapons, is involved in a hot war”.
Mr Kimball said: “The same kind of risks exist at times in Pakistan, when you have terrorist networks operating. Pakistani military facilities have been subjected to attack in the past. So this is similar.”


Hans Kristensen, director of the Federation of American Scientists’ Nuclear Information Project, told The New York Times that there could be 25 to 50 nuclear-capable so-called “Jericho” missile launchers at the base, which was built in 1962. These missiles are equipped to carry nuclear warheads.

He said even if the fire had reached the missiles, their underground storage facilities were built to protect them.

Nevertheless, he added: “All sorts of things can go wrong.”

The IDF did not respond to inquiries.




https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-n...aeli-base-containing-nuclear-missiles-report/

 

[anonym]

Hamas is Middle East number 1 big cannon fairy.

Sadly many actually believe them

 

[MoeLanYong]

Funny that people expect countries to declare their nuclear capability.

Its as bizarre as going to a stranger's house and demanding his wife undress for us to see everything.

 

[capcow]

suddenly got budget for nuclear weapon??

 

[jkohlc2]

israel never admitted they have nukes or not

 

[1982-1994]

These two countries reminds me of the feud between萧远山and慕容博

The ending of all needs the power of an almighty god, just like扫地僧