[CONSOLIDATED] Israel & Palestine Hamas conflict updates [History Discussion and stirring against any religion NOT ALLOWED]

Who’s fault is it that Palestine are suffering/dying now

  • Israel

    Votes: 116 15.6%

  • Hamas

    Votes: 518 69.6%

  • Others

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Search for Israel + Samson Option

Then come here and tell us what you think of these fine people.
 
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thailover said:
You over estimate hamas la
They are at best Murong Fu
Useless one
Israel is dun want wipe them out for fear of international backlash
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Erm no
Trying very hard to wipe our Hamas or you can choose to believe they are Killing Palestinians under pretext of killing Hamas
 
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enigmastar said:
"Strike on Sdot Micha base triggered a blaze close to storage facilities and sensitive weapons"

"The report said the Hamas rocket hit inside the perimeter of the Sdot Micha base, which is located 25 miles northeast of Gaza and 15 miles west of Jerusalem. It struck at 10am and appeared to land in a small ravine. The explosion started a fire in the dry vegetations."

Sensational reporting. It started a fire in the dry vegetations in a small ravine. Maybe thats why iron dorm don't brother to intercept it. Hamas can shoot as many missile into the ravine and start as many fire in dry vegetation, it does not harm the base and the people at all.
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I have a different opinion.

I am more concerned how hamas have access to so many rockets despite the blockade.

So much of their resources can be used for the betterment of the gaza civilians but hamas hcose to use their very limited resources for missiles and tunnels.

West bank, governed by fatah, is a different story. I have watched numerous youtube videos on west bank and it is a beautiful, prosperous place albeit the israeli checkpoints and settlements. But still, west bank is way better than gaza.
 
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Fiddler said:
Search for Israel + Samson Option

Then come here and tell us what you think of these fine people.
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Whats is wrong with it? I pretty sure every country with nuclear weapon will launch their nuclear weapons if they are soon to be eliminated. Its called mutual destruction. Its also why nuclear secrets is purposely leaked to soviet union so to ensure these two power don't come head to head war during the cold war.

You may search for nuclear deterrent and tell us what is the use for nuclear weapons. Hints: Its not actually to be used on enemy rather it is to make sure noone dare to invade u.
 
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#19232 enigmastar:
Whats is wrong with it? I pretty sure every country with nuclear weapon will launch their nuclear weapons if they are soon to be eliminated. Its called mutual destruction.

Another geo-political "expert" LOL
Its not mutual destruction...it's mutually assured destruction

And Israel claims the Samson Option will be triggered even if they are not attacked by nuclear
weapons. The stance seems to be that if we go down (by ANY means) we are taking the rest
of you with us. (whether you were the ones who specifically attacked us or not...wtf!)
 
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Fiddler said:
#19232 enigmastar:
Whats is wrong with it? I pretty sure every country with nuclear weapon will launch their nuclear weapons if they are soon to be eliminated. Its called mutual destruction.

Another geo-political "expert" LOL
Its not mutual destruction...it's mutually assured destruction

And Israel claims the Samson Option will be triggered even if they are not attacked by nuclear
weapons. The stance seems to be that if we go down (by ANY means) we are taking the rest
of you with us.
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Please reread. It has the same meaning and i didn't say it has to be nuclear. That's why its mutual destruction aka u destroy us ,we will destroy you , we both be destroyed. I think that is as simple as i can make it for u lol.
 
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Fiddler said:
You haven't added anything to the conversation besides your customary drivel
Don't even know the context of my remarks
In what universe of rational thought is it ok to send nuclear missiles to destroy the world
when you have NOT been attacked with nuclear weapons?
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I dont want to derail this topic since it has been merged into Israel thread. But with regards to nuclear country response with nuclear weapons, you may google with what putin said at the start of the war in the scenario Ukraine dare to attack russia mainland.

Any countries being invaded will attempt to hurt you back with whatever they have especially if they are on the bink of destruction. They have nothing to lose. Its pretty much common sense.

And i didn't say using nuclear to destroy the world, i don't know where in your rational thought think i said that.

I will stop here since the previous thread has been merged with Israel, i will not reply you in this thread about nuclear option. Do feel free to start another thread or pm me to continue the conversation.
 
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haigeonos said:
Nevertheless, this does not justify the even much greater number of mutilating and deaths inflicted upon the innocent Palestinian civilians. How can anyone feel sad for Oct 7 victims but not sad for the greater number of sufferings in Gaza

No nation will do such thing to "ensure such event never happen again", except Israel and Nazi Germany. To use the crimes of a few as a lousy excuse to conduct an ethnic cleansing and to exterminate an entire community sounds like Kristallnacht.




Besides, Israel army itself believes in using rappe as a weapon to defeat the enemy:


Israel army names new chief rabbi criticised over rape comments​

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-36775036.amp
- ... criticised for remarks he made in the past that seemed to condone the rape of non-Jewish women in war.
- Col. Eyal Karim, the IDF's intended next chief rabbi, has previously provided misogynistic interpretations of Jewish law that permits raping as a way to keep up morale

Israeli Guards Rape Palestinian Women​

https://www.cair.com/cair_in_the_news/israeli-guards-rape-palestinian-women/
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Do you have source of mutilating of innocence Palestinian civilians, ethic cleansing and extermination of entire community?

You know the difference of saying something and the actual act being committed?

And the website u used as a source which is as dubious as it can be. I just link one, there is more if you willing to read the page below.

"In November 2014, CAIR was designated a terrorist organization by the United Arab Emirates,[123] due to alleged ties to the Muslim Brotherhood."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_on_American–Islamic_Relations
 
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