[CONSOLIDATED] Israel & Palestine Hamas conflict updates [History Discussion and stirring against any religion NOT ALLOWED]

Who’s fault is it that Palestine are suffering/dying now

  • Israel

    Votes: 116 15.7%
  • Hamas

    Votes: 515 69.5%
  • Others

    Votes: 110 14.8%

  • Total voters
    741

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Biden satki, visited israel and secured hostages release. He'll be re-elected.

Will xi go there next to secure release of the half chinese hostage?
don't think he will care about the few dead the whole china social media is 跟党走 ultra pro-hamas for some reason
 

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1. You seem to be saying things that do not accurate convey what you mean. You said that you are not convinced. But yet, you drew two picture to prove your point that it's not possible for the explosions to happen behind the path of the rockets.

2. Well, if an air burst munition had went off, it would had resulted in broken windows and leave behind shrapnel marks on the buildings and parking lots. No evidence of that. Air burst munition would not had caused the fireball either. But let's assume that was a fuel air explosive, but if it's a FAE, windows would be blown out and there would be indications of a point of detonation radiating outwards.

3. Now you are the one introducing the label of channel 4 stooping down to uneducated wild guesses. I did not say nor mean that, but if that's what you think, good by me.

Assessments may be made in good faith and turn out to be incorrect. There are different theories by different credible aviation experts around the world over the disappearances of MH370. One of them could be right, or it could turn out that all of them are wrong. But that don't by default earn them the label of uneducated wild guesses. And I certainly did not imply that. I worry for your penchant to jump to illogical conclusions.

4. I certainly did not say that we should believe the most parroted news available because there is no independent and neutral party in the world. First let me correct you by pointing out that you said independent and totally neutral organisation or persons. Note the operative word totally, which you conveniently omitted when you responded to me. Next, I did not allude that we should believe the most "parroted news", which by the way is a term you introduced and I did not say that. My point is very clear. There is no such a thing as totally neutral organization. We can term an organization as generally neutral, claimed to be neutral, largely neutral, by and far neutral. But totally neutral? Name me one.

You had on numerous occasions claimed that people are putting words in your mouth. But what I see instead is that you are creatively and/or wrongly reading into what people actually meant, and putting words and claims into their mouths instead. This is concerning.
because the facts does not fit the narratives i am trying to paint :D
 

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Bro i applaud your efforts in trying to correct him but you are wasting your effort.

You are talking to a guy who once claimed a female hk protestor who was blinded in one eye by a police shotgun bean bag shot was actually being injured by a guy standing behind her using a slingshot. Yes you heard it right, he claimed that it was a guy standing behind her who managed to shoot her in the eye while she was looking infront. He draw a picture claiming the shot somehow managed to bounce off two surface and did a 180 degree turn to hit her in the eye. Sound ridiculous but this is how he twist and turn facts to fit his narrative.

It was clear that it was a failed rocket that landed on the carpark area and not a jdam missile. Even if its a jdam shot, i don't know how firing a missile at a carpark area that resulted in no crater but can kill 500 people without any portion of the hospital collapsing.
he is the mathematician/scientist we do not deserve.
 

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US rly is evil

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ISIS digs tunnels hundreds of meters underground so no need to go back to vietwar.

Tunnels are not much use today, but Gaza is different because the tunnels are below civilian buildings so Israel can't use the special tunnel busters that Americans supply them as it will cause the entire city blocks to collapse. These tunnel ordnances can suck up the air in the tunnels, creating a vacuum and the entire tunnel system will collapse.
Gaza is next to the sea, cant they just flood it? Then send iserali version of seals in?

Sure the hundreds of tunnels might not be connected, find one fill it up and suba in, find fifty fill fifty up and scuba in.

Salt water is free anyway.

The irony is this requires the navy and combat engineers, which the navy is like a ghost since day 1. Not a single news on them.
 

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Should be better than being stuck under HAMAS. Israel should also consider buying that strip of land from PA for strategic & logistic reasons, FATAH can get the money to help their own people ( and enrich themselves) and improve the security forces required to root out HAMAS scums.

Once it is bought over, Palestine can focus on becoming an official country while Israel can focus on internal rooting out of HAMAS in Gaza Strip. Iran can only JJWW....

Once Gaza folks tasted the good life, even after elections , they will not go back to HAMAS....HAMAS would then be defeated once and for all.

Good idea, @ZedMaster?
 
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