[CONSOLIDATED] 柯文哲 Ko P Discussion Thread

[Kiwi8]

Breaking

KP going out on bail. NT70M

Yeah, there is no more political purpose to detaining KP further since 726 and 823 ended in lao sai for Lai and DPP.

To detain further will just drag down DPP's support level further.

 

[TUV2008]

The emperor-wanna-be dun dare to hold him anymore. His party is going against him ever since he lao sai non-stop.

HGM is the saddest man now, he has to handover chairmanship back to KP

 

[twosix]

HGM is the saddest man now, he has to handover chairmanship back to KP

Why should he? He is officially nominated and elected. Dun think Kp will want to be chairman anymore.

 

[Kiwi8]

HGM is the saddest man now, he has to handover chairmanship back to KP

Who is HGM? Or u meant HGC?

 

[TUV2008]

Who is HGM? Or u meant HGC?

Typo, I mean 亡国娼

 

[Kiwi8]

Typo, I mean 亡国娼

I thought why u used HGM, I thought u were referring to Huang Guo Ming.

 

[ZaiNan]

柯文哲延長羈押庭致詞片段：


我被押一年了，我、陳佩琪、三子女、李文宗、李文娟、我的秘書、助理、黨職高層都被抄家，你們到底查到什麼？


民進黨沒想到民眾黨那麼窮，那麼乾淨，因為乾所以淨，因為清所以白。你們搞錯了、沒有那麼多壞人。


這個案子只是為了對付柯文哲一個人，但連累了太多人，前天我看到彭振聲真的很想問他，你認什麼罪？我也沒有交代他做任何事，他家破人亡⋯⋯


但我看到他實在問不出口，（對著檢察官質問）他需要這樣嗎？家破人亡了⋯（哽咽無法言語）


李文宗，是我高中同學，相識50年，只是總統大選來當我的財務長，京華城案與他完全無關，只因為一通簡訊，被羅織罪名，關了10個月，求刑十年，褫奪公權5年，台灣民主化三十年了，居然還有這樣的冤獄。
我身邊的人一一被傳訊、折磨、修理，只因為他們資助民眾黨。


我以後一定要推動一件事，考上司法官先去關一週，你們知道什麼是＃羈押禁見 嗎？


一般坐牢的人每天還可以出去活動，有打飯班、去收餐盤，可以去工場活動，還有很多人抽煙聊天，跟當兵很像，但羈押禁見完全不一樣，是完全和外面斷訊。


我24小時都關在三坪大房間，只有點名時候會開小小的窗口，只能趴在地上，透過送飯口聽到聲音、看不到人，陽光也照不進來，就這樣一年了。


我可能是朝廷要員，每次我律見出去的時候，人員要暫停工作，人要面壁站、要迴避，第一晚，我同房的對我說阿北加油！隔天就被移走，我那區也只剩我那房有人，其他都被移走⋯


讓我關一年也好，讓我可以看到台灣最底層的人，你們知道錢卡嗎？有三個跟我同房的獄友錢卡是零元，他們只有一套衣服，不能換洗，晚上洗好晾乾，就直接光著身體睡覺，還有人沒有棉被⋯⋯


關一年也好，讓我看到了台灣社會最底層最邊緣的人…


還是引用我自己的話，人生最難的不是遇到挫折打擊，而是面對挫折打擊，不放棄人生的希望。心存善念、盡力而為，希望台灣因為有我們而更好，我也要感謝這一年來鼓勵我的人。

The green party is really evil. To make someone wife jump

Politics only mah need to stooped til this low level

 

[TUV2008]

The green party is really evil. To make someone wife jump

Politics only mah need to stooped til this low level

HGC and KP always say 科学，理性，务实, so my question is what proof do they have is the green party made someone wife jump??? All argument are just hypothetical, no proof also

 

[ZaiNan]

HGC and KP always say 科学，理性，务实, so my question is what proof do they have is the green party made someone wife jump??? All argument are just hypothetical, no proof also

As if the prosecution got solid proof? Did you even read his court statement which is legal and binding.

1 year in custody, he saw his colleague who plead guilty. He dont understand in the first place why he admit wrongdoing when they all go through SOP and that is during covid pandemic period. But upon seeing his white hair 75 yo liao how to tahan all these grilling.

Quote SG case example Ong Beng Seng was spare jail time due to his age and illness. Not many people can tahan all these sufferings unless you are really political motivated / justice in heart. Come on this is just a civil post. Just work to earn a living leh

需要搞到家破人亡？if got real evidence also won't drag one year. Joke is one excel file can become solid evidence for corruption.

 

[TUV2008]

As if the prosecution got solid proof? Did you even read his court statement which is legal and binding.

1 year in custody, he saw his colleague who plead guilty. He dont understand in the first place why he admit wrongdoing when they all go through SOP and that is during covid pandemic period. But upon seeing his white hair 75 yo liao how to tahan all these grilling.

Quote SG case example Ong Beng Seng was spare jail time due to his age and illness. Not many people can tahan all these sufferings unless you are really political motivated / justice in heart. Come on this is just a civil post. Just work to earn a living leh

需要搞到家破人亡？if got real evidence also won't drag one year. Joke is one excel file can become solid evidence for corruption.

We are talking of Taiwan politic here. That's their culture. If you are not the ruling party just have to play by their rule.

 

[ZaiNan]

We are talking of Taiwan politic here. That's their culture. If you are not the ruling party just have to play by their rule.

Disagree. There are pros and cons of a democratic country. When the ruling party choose to not play by the rules, stoop to such a low level for political motivation or retain power. People who are pan green will also defect accordingly.

 

[twosix]

Disagree. There are pros and cons of a democratic country. When the ruling party choose to not play by the rules, stoop to such a low level for political motivation or retain power. People who are pan green will also defect accordingly.

Haha... dem9cratic in name only. More like feduallism at work.

 

[TUV2008]

Disagree. There are pros and cons of a democratic country. When the ruling party choose to not play by the rules, stoop to such a low level for political motivation or retain power. People who are pan green will also defect accordingly.

When come to politics that is no clean game.

Even LKY once said to the opposition: play by my rule and if not happy replace me at the poll.

I am sure if one day blue or white rule taiwan, they will play the same dirty politics game also.

 

[TUV2008]

I will be frank la: 柯文哲 玩火 and 得罪到不可以得罪的人，所以就 硬硬 判他有罪 羈押他（讓他坐牢）。

If not for 柯文哲 third party came and dilute the 2024 votes, KMT could have won. End up: neither DPP or KMT had more than 50%. 柯文哲 really prevented a change of party to KMT, neither has he given DPP more than 50% support. The Taiwan political share tio ****ed up by 柯文哲, and that’s why he tio imprisoned for one year.

Moral of the story: 不要玩火 (do not play with fire).

The recommended course of action for 柯文哲 would be to dissolve his party and leave politics for good. 不要再參與政治了.

KP political career is over....his party will be dissolved by HGC once he joins KMT

So he just do nothing and sit back relax enjoy HGC show time

 

[ApeTruelove]

tiagong he going home tomorrow

 

[TUV2008]

tiagong he going home tomorrow

Don't be surprised if he refuse to go home tmr. He wants to use this as political leverage by continue to stay behind the bar

 

[16/8IF]

saw this youtube last few days

Nice sound :--

 

[twosix]

2 more months and he can go home for free, no bail required.

 

[Dilemma6]

We are talking of Taiwan politic here. That's their culture. If you are not the ruling party just have to play by their rule.

Hahahahaha nope, since when taiwan 在野党 play by the rules?

remember 太阳花?
Go out and protest?
在野党 do funny things like locking up door, running away with bills etc etc

 

[Dilemma6]

I will be frank la: 柯文哲 玩火 and 得罪到不可以得罪的人，所以就 硬硬 判他有罪 羈押他（讓他坐牢）。

If not for 柯文哲 third party came and dilute the 2024 votes, KMT could have won. End up: neither DPP or KMT had more than 50%. 柯文哲 really prevented a change of party to KMT, neither has he given DPP more than 50% support. The Taiwan political share tio ****ed up by 柯文哲, and that’s why he tio imprisoned for one year.

Moral of the story: 不要玩火 (do not play with fire).

The recommended course of action for 柯文哲 would be to dissolve his party and leave politics for good. 不要再參與政治了.

Your explanation doesnt really make sense

It is obvious Ke P threatened DPP who is current govt. it is Lai and his gang that is behind all these attack, not because of "得罪到不可以得罪的人"
with or without TPP, KMT will never win, because they are already branded as 舔共

However with existance of TPP, DPP position is threatened.

DPP position - pro independent, go with USA
KMT position - work closely with china, dont want independent
TPP provided Taiwanese the third solution - maintain status quo and have good relation with both China and USA (kinda like SG)

TPP is the biggest threat to DPP

2020 election - DPP 57.13% vs KMT 38.61%
2024 election - DPP 40.05% vs KMT 33.49% vs TPP 26.46%

A huge 17% went to TPP from DPP in just 4 years

If im Ke P, ill continue to work hard to get the middle ground.
current DPP govt is in shambles after the recent recall votes failure

Work something out with KMT and attack