[CONSOLIDATED] 柯文哲 Ko P Discussion Thread

[rizhal]

How come got people say Lai is corrupted?

Lai has no corruption record.

I used to support DPP. Few things below made me disappointed.

Lots of duty free cigarette in Cai’s official plane. But no one was penalized, Cai said their staff overbought them.

Whole party supported Lin ZJ on his fraud master thesis

Chen Ju resigned from Kaohsiung Mayor with about 1 year remaining; she joined central government. Really not fulfilling responsibilities on Kaohsiung. Overly complacent.

Supported local Vaccine, this is good to encourage local product; but too over, and now they were accused of benefiting as stock shareholders.

 

[rizhal]

How come got people say Ke P has no integrity?

my opinion.

KP’s mouth is faster than brain.

Pulled out from KMT agreement on technicalities. In fact, he was too confident to give KMT handicaps earlier. Should entered the agreement with more thoughts and constraints.

His mind is based on Practicality and Science, when new info comes, he will switch mind.

His gray stand on China is difficult to maintain unlike blue and green team, which is pro and anti respectively.

 

[mgx-alander]

You really think there's not talent in KMT nor good politicians? It's all a show between Zhu and DPP to share power between them. Imo KMT hot more intellectuals than DPP, 张亚中 is chairman material. Zhu Li Lun always act blur but very intelligent and sly

But sleep during debate

Like our mp sleep in parliament

 

[menthol28]

talented taiwanese rapper on the current government

 

[menthol28]

Lai has no corruption record.

I used to support DPP. Few things below made me disappointed.

Lots of duty free cigarette in Cai’s official plane. But no one was penalized, Cai said their staff overbought them.

Whole party supported Lin ZJ on his fraud master thesis

Chen Ju resigned from Kaohsiung Mayor with about 1 year remaining; she joined central government. Really not fulfilling responsibilities on Kaohsiung. Overly complacent.

Supported local Vaccine, this is good to encourage local product; but too over, and now they were accused of benefiting as stock shareholders.

But his illegally occupying state land to build a house is a form of corruption, using his political means to gain state land. If it's not corruption what is? Every taiwanese can start occupying land and claimed it's their fathers land and start crying

 

[mgx-alander]

But his illegally occupying state land to build a house is a form of corruption, using his political means to gain state land. If it's not corruption what is? Every taiwanese can start occupying land and claimed it's their fathers land and start crying

Build smth on top of his owned land that he declared without authorization

Nv pay property tax on it when he say have cos city govt no record of the house

Say its his father old hse but tio sexposed with gpgt it was not when he was li wei in 2003
Bcos his house is not declared, not on his asset listing, thus not in a trust when it is mandatory for p and vp

Got MP to guard the house when he was vp, gvgt 22 beds got out of it for 4 years, each MP is said to earned 80-100k (4-5ksgd) twd per mth, waste of their armed forces resources

Say ish small building, but tio sexposed got 3 small hse behind it, garden well trimmed, got koi pond

His abuse of power jin lihai

 

[rizhal]

But his illegally occupying state land to build a house is a form of corruption, using his political means to gain state land. If it's not corruption what is? Every taiwanese can start occupying land and claimed it's their fathers land and start crying

If I am not mistaken, his point was a lot of miners families are affected. There is no law governing this gray area; if not the local official would have jump and evict them long ago.

But he claims to pledge illegal house to a trust is something I cannot understand.

 

[mgx-alander]

If I am not mistaken, his point was a lot of miners families are affected. There is no law governing this gray area; if not the local official would have jump and evict them long ago.

But he claims to pledge illegal house to a trust is something I cannot understand.

His land is legal but his building on the land is not as it is built in 2003, it has no bearing to the miners

His land on offical documents say no house but drone gpgt ish 4 buildings.. there is nth to tax or trust bcos the building dont exist on paper

 

[rizhal]

But his illegally occupying state land to build a house is a form of corruption, using his political means to gain state land. If it's not corruption what is? Every taiwanese can start occupying land and claimed it's their fathers land and start crying

There are many such illegal squatting example in Taiwan.

Taipei 社子島

When KP was the mayor, he wanted to remove illegal installation of top roof shelters.

When they came to 社子島 to remove illegal shelters, they discovered these house are actually squatters. Then the amazing thing is these houses has valid addresses!!! Who gives them the official addresses????

very messy for KP to handle as a mayor.

so when we read crazy news from TW, actually they are convoluted with many historical blunders and oversights.

 

[menthol28]

If I am not mistaken, his point was a lot of miners families are affected. There is no law governing this gray area; if not the local official would have jump and evict them long ago.

But he claims to pledge illegal house to a trust is something I cannot understand.

If the house itself is still an illegal building, how to pledge it to trust? Just like I've got 1 kg of substance that's illegal drugs, can I pledge it to someone or a trust thus making it and myself legalized?the root of the problem is that it's built illegally, so meaning there's no legal binding title deeds, any ah ter ah gou also can claim it's theirs. I really dunno how William Lai ad current VP and his entire cabinet of ministers and President Cai can ignore and choose to act blur on such laws. Even Hou as current mayor of which the illegal house is on, is acting blur. I seriously dun understand their society

 

[menthol28]

I think taiwanese overall tolerance level of corruption and 闭案 is boh bian just accept or dun care, very alike our neighbour Malaysia. That's why their government can go to extreme and just dun need to give accountability to the people, Cai can just dun go parliament for long period.
I prefer a country based on rule of law, illegal is illegal dun have grey areas and leave to interpretations

 

[mgx-alander]

If the house itself is still an illegal building, how to pledge it to trust? Just like I've got 1 kg of substance that's illegal drugs, can I pledge it to someone or a trust thus making it and myself legalized?the root of the problem is that it's built illegally, so meaning there's no legal binding title deeds, any ah ter ah gou also can claim it's theirs. I really dunno how William Lai ad current VP and his entire cabinet of ministers and President Cai can ignore and choose to act blur on such laws. Even Hou as current mayor of which the illegal house is on, is acting blur. I seriously dun understand their society

Eng veg say ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ duno lol
His green mp trying to cover him but pichiak lobang by hou city gahment

As to why hou didnt do anything until election.. god knows.. maybe he wants to use it to his political advantage or 蓝绿一家亲

 

[menthol28]

Eng veg say ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ duno lol
His green mp trying to cover him but pichiak lobang but hou city gahment

As to why hou didnt do anything until election.. god knows.. maybe he wants to use it to his political advantage or 蓝绿一家亲

Based on Hou handling of this case and his past dissertation on HGY, I seriously dun understand why KMT supporters can back Hou, if I ever am a taiwanese and supporting blue I will loathe Hou

 

[rizhal]

I think taiwanese overall tolerance level of corruption and 闭案 is boh bian just accept or dun care, very alike our neighbour Malaysia. That's why their government can go to extreme and just dun need to give accountability to the people, Cai can just dun go parliament for long period.
I prefer a country based on rule of law, illegal is illegal dun have grey areas and leave to interpretations

Yeah

Seems like there is no perfect politician in TW.

KP seems like a good bet for the future, notwithstanding his blunders.

 

[mgx-alander]

Based on Hou handling of this case and his past dissertation on HGY, I seriously dun understand why KMT supporters can back Hou, if I ever am a taiwanese and supporting blue I will loathe Hou

Zhu say wat jiu wat ma

 

[OrLengJuz]

So drama Taiwan politics

They think they acting in some movie

Really pattern more than pattern

if it works why not? if you find it disgusting, maybe you are not its intended audience. lol

 

[mgx-alander]

KP likes our lky spp hor say wanna send his army of twmms here for training

Where our hot fav gillian will teach them

 

[menthol28]

Build smth on top of his owned land that he declared without authorization

Nv pay property tax on it when he say have cos city govt no record of the house

Say its his father old hse but tio sexposed with gpgt it was not when he was li wei in 2003
Bcos his house is not declared, not on his asset listing, thus not in a trust when it is mandatory for p and vp

Got MP to guard the house when he was vp, gvgt 22 beds got out of it for 4 years, each MP is said to earned 80-100k (4-5ksgd) twd per mth, waste of their armed forces resources

Say ish small building, but tio sexposed got 3 small hse behind it, garden well trimmed, got koi pond

His abuse of power jin lihai

And I remembered that Qiu Yi or someone pointed out, the land and the house was never his deceased father's to begin with.... Really wtf

 

[testart]

if it works why not? if you find it disgusting, maybe you are not its intended audience. lol

Is not natural. Like machiam got conversation lines. 对白。

Only drama and movie do until like that.

 

[mgx-alander]

Funny thing ish eng veg angry dun even wanna let lai answer during 1/1 speech ask him go answer urself in ur own press conference