Copying LARGE data over KILLED my HDDs

[86technie]

Inside the PC HDD cages
Suspecting electric currents killed the HDDs when moving data?

External or internat?
If External, HDD drives usually won't last.
FYI for external HDD it is recommend to shutdown before disconnecting the drive.

Cuz Windows safely remove does not stop the drive so it is still spining.
Only if you shutdown than the HDD will stop spining than you can safely remove.
Like others mention it's best to move, if your intention is to savage those old drives.

No point seriously they are more than 10 years than HDD is slowly starting to die.
Just get it replace and move on.

 

[Viper0402]

External or internat?
If External, HDD drives usually won't last.
FYI for external HDD it is recommend to shutdown before disconnecting the drive.

Cuz Windows safely remove does not stop the drive so it is still spining.
Only if you shutdown than the HDD will stop spining than you can safely remove.
Like others mention it's best to move, if your intention is to savage those old drives.

No point seriously they are more than 10 years than HDD is slowly starting to die.
Just get it replace and move on.

Internal...
Btw, I have WD Book Live 2TB External Ethernet... I always perform shutdown until the blue light goes out then power off.

 

[Viper0402]

Just did a CHKDSK
reported 120KB in bad sectors on the WD VelociRaptor(DHTZ) 1TB

 

[TanKianW]

Just did a CHKDSK
reported 120KB in bad sectors on the WD VelociRaptor(DHTZ) 1TB

Before your HDD developed bad sectors, there could be lots of causes to it. It could be both hardware and software, accumulated over a period of time.

In a competent storage filesystem, even a loose cabling can trigger errors/faults or prevent a write/overwrite onto an important file sector. Data will always be checked, verified, before writing onto your disk. Reducing the risk of developing bad sectors and writing corrupted data over and over again. A good storage file system also go through a constant check and “take stock” process, performing the “healing” process where necessary….competently. Therefore, just by checking the disk or the disk to report errors (SMART) when you know it has developed bad sector over time is always too late and a “reactive” way of data protection.​

 

[BlackWing1977]

Case 1
Bought new Seagate 4TB External HDD so copy all data from a 15-year old perfect working Samsung SpinPoint F1 750GB SATA-II HDD KILLED the Samsung HDD (completely dead with tok tok tok sounds). About 600GB of data transferred.

Case 2
Bought a new WD Blue 1TB HDD to replace the abovementioned DEAD Samsung HDD.
Have the same data on my WD VelociRaptor(DHTZ) 1TB 10kRPM SATA HDD and transferred almost 260GB of data over to the new WD Blue 1TB.
Now the old WD VelociRaptor(DHTZ) 1TB is showing errors when scanning and CrystalDiskInfo shows "CAUTION" Health Status for the VelociRaptor(DHTZ) 1TB omg

Anyone have experiences copying large data all at once killed their source HDDs?

I know the HDD already having issues then I start moving the data out to a external HDD. My recent building a new rig, I got to retire 3 HDD, then now using 2 internal one and 2 external one. On motheboard using a nvme SSD WD_BLACK SN850X 2TB as OS and game drive and a external WD_BLACK D30 2TB SSD as game drive also.

If possible I want to replace all HDD with SSD.

 

[BlackWing1977]

Good news is if your requirement for storage not super high. SSD are actually cheap enough to replace them.

 

[keenklee]

IMHO.
Actually moving large amount of data between storage is really PITA at times.

I was consolidating data from 2 smaller drives to a larger capacity drive.
I have 2 larger capacity drives so I made 2 sets of the data.
When I did a full compare the the files between the 2 larger capacity drivers, some files are not the same!

 

[BlackWing1977]

IMHO.
Actually moving large amount of data between storage is really PITA at times.

I was consolidating data from 2 smaller drives to a larger capacity drive.
I have 2 larger capacity drives so I made 2 sets of the data.
When I did a full compare the the files between the 2 larger capacity drivers, some files are not the same!

It is very painful copying files out from old failing HDD out to external drive.

 

[BlackWing1977]

Even a External SSD with 10Gbps still faster then SATA III SSD which max out at 6Gbps.

 

[keenklee]

It is very painful copying files out from old failing HDD out to external drive.

IMHO.
I have that experience as well. Failing notebook HDD.
But this experience, the drives weren't even failing.
Now looking at ways to verify the files integrity quickly.

 

[keenklee]

Even a External SSD with 10Gbps still faster then SATA III SSD which max out at 6Gbps.

IMHO.
Eh... SSD now can go 10Gbps !?!? I thought usually is around 5xx ?

 

[BlackWing1977]

IMHO.
Eh... SSD now can go 10Gbps !?!? I thought usually is around 5xx ?

As long as your USB port is 10Gbps, my current motherboard all 7 of them are 10 Gbps, so they are all faster than a SATA and I have 2 x 20Gbps type C port ( 1 internal and 1 external) and 2 x USB4 ports also. Lots of expansion possibility.

 

[keenklee]

As long as your USB port is 10Gbps, my current motherboard all 7 of them are 10 Gbps, so they are all faster than a SATA and I have 2 x 20Gbps type C port ( 1 internal and 1 external) and 2 x USB4 ports also. Lots of expansion possibility.

IMHO.
My HDDs cannot run so fast.

 

[BlackWing1977]

IMHO.
My HDDs cannot run so fast.

It is a difference of night and day loading Total War Warhammer III on HDD and SSD. On HDD I can probably go toilet pangsai then come back and it is still loading.

 

[keenklee]

It is a difference of night and day loading Total War Warhammer III on HDD and SSD.

IMHO.
Normal use of cause is SSD or Nvme.
Storage/Backup if the requirement is small is ok.
Start I already have 2x ext 8TB to backup.

 

[Viper0402]

I know the HDD already having issues then I start moving the data out to a external HDD. My recent building a new rig, I got to retire 3 HDD, then now using 2 internal one and 2 external one. On motheboard using a nvme SSD WD_BLACK SN850X 2TB as OS and game drive and a external WD_BLACK D30 2TB SSD as game drive also.

If possible I want to replace all HDD with SSD.

As long as your USB port is 10Gbps, my current motherboard all 7 of them are 10 Gbps, so they are all faster than a SATA and I have 2 x 20Gbps type C port ( 1 internal and 1 external) and 2 x USB4 ports also. Lots of expansion possibility.

I have alot of SSDs as well... Samsung 970 EVO Plus 1TB PCIe® for my Gaming PC
Transcend SSD230S SATA III 6Gb/s - 1TB SSD, Crucial MX500 500GB SATA SSD, Samsung 860 EVO 2.5" SATA3 SSD 500GB, Kingston 240GB SSD and some other 256GB SSDs.
I will never use SSDs as storage because I have one that died SUDDENLY without warning at all, common for SSDs.

 

[BlackWing1977]

I have alot of SSDs as well... Samsung 970 EVO Plus 1TB PCIe® for my Gaming PC
Transcend SSD230S SATA III 6Gb/s - 1TB SSD, Crucial MX500 500GB SATA SSD, Samsung 860 EVO 2.5" SATA3 SSD 500GB, Kingston 240GB SSD and some other 256GB SSDs.
I will never use SSDs as storage because I have one that died SUDDENLY without warning at all, common for SSDs.

Then combining SSD and HDD is a good compromise then..

 

[jtjt00]

Good news is if your requirement for storage not super high. SSD are actually cheap enough to replace them.

Agreed, recently upgraded my DS418 NAS to DS923+ with 4x 2TB Crucial MX500 SSD.
Previous DS418 was using Toshiba 2TB HDD.

 

[blackie83]

Seagate cannot buy one leh. they always got promo.

Get toshiba. if data really important. run it in mirror or raid.

 

[86technie]

Seagate cannot buy one leh. they always got promo.

Get toshiba. if data really important. run it in mirror or raid.

Seagate is OK for me.
Not a fan of Toshiba mainly due to fact their drive isn't fast as Seagate or WD.