Custom Mini PC. Pls recommend.

[intrance]

Hi guys..
Im not well versed on PC configuration. All along using laptop at home..

I need a PC for photo editing and play online game such as World of Tank.
Im looking at Mini ITX with liquid cooled.
Say my budget is $800 include OS but exclude monitor..
Im not sure if my budget could get me a decent PC for my intended use or I need to save up more..

If you could recommend/suggest a suitable parts will be very much appreciated.

Many thanks in advance

 

[delson_tan]

ITX items are always at a premium, plus do you really need liquid cooling or is it a want? It's because you may need to save up more for what you want.

 

[intrance]

ITX items are always at a premium, plus do you really need liquid cooling or is it a want? It's because you may need to save up more for what you want.

wifey doesnt want to get a PC if the electric consumption is much higher than laptop, and i guess with liquid cooling.. it will bring down the electric consumption compare to ordinary cooling.

Maybe you would like to recommend me and let me see how much to save up eventually before getting one..

Thanks

 

[Jian19]

With ur budget going for mini itx is impossible, and u wan liquid cooling somemore, have to be more realistic with ur budget

i5-3350p + Asrock b75m dgs ~ $271
Crucial 8 gb ddr3 ~ $90
Wd blue 1tb ~ $74
Zotac gtx 750 ~ $169
CM 311 + Fsp hexa 500 ~ $105
Win7 64 oem ~ $115

$824 buy and diy @ tradepac ask for discount

 

[royfrosty]

wifey doesnt want to get a PC if the electric consumption is much higher than laptop, and i guess with liquid cooling.. it will bring down the electric consumption compare to ordinary cooling.

Maybe you would like to recommend me and let me see how much to save up eventually before getting one..

Thanks

A laptop is very low powered compared to a desktop. And the desktop is more powerful than a laptop.

And cooling it with water does not equate with more energy savings.

 

[DeenzX]

A laptop is very low powered compared to a desktop. And the desktop is more powerful than a laptop.

And cooling it with water does not equate with more energy savings.

First time I hear Liquid Cooling consumes lesser power than fans. They should consume more shouldn't it?

 

[tamjinhang]

Wanted to send links but inbox full. Go clear it! lol

Anyway, 800 with watercooling is gg to be hard. m-atx would be more suitable perhaps?

 

[t258jgn]

CoolerMaster Elite 130 Mini-ITX Case (Black)
CoolerMaster ELITE POWER 400w PSU
MSI H87I H87 Skt1150 Mini-ITX MoBo with WiFi b/g/n & Bluetooth
Intel i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core
Kingston 2x 4GB 1600 DDR3 Value Rams
WD Blue 1TB 3.5" SATA 6GB/s 7200 64
CoolerMaster SEIDON 120V WATERCOOLING KIT
Zotac gtx 750
@ $890 from Sim Lim

 

[DeenzX]

Or you can get from ^ himself..

 

[yusoffb01]

Wow 890 can fit in water cooling

 

[shadow84]

Have AIO but no ssd. I rather forgo AIO and get ssd.

 

[intrance]

Hi guys.. many thanks for ur response

First time I hear Liquid Cooling consumes lesser power than fans. They should consume more shouldn't it?

Hmm.. so the liquid cooling is not more saving than using fan? Im confused now..

Wanted to send links but inbox full. Go clear it! lol

Anyway, 800 with watercooling is gg to be hard. m-atx would be more suitable perhaps?

Bro.. inbox clear.. do send the links..
I got small table so need small PC.. tho im looking at 24" monitor subsequently..

 

[intrance]

CoolerMaster Elite 130 Mini-ITX Case (Black)
CoolerMaster ELITE POWER 400w PSU
MSI H87I H87 Skt1150 Mini-ITX MoBo with WiFi b/g/n & Bluetooth
Intel i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core
Kingston 2x 4GB 1600 DDR3 Value Rams
WD Blue 1TB 3.5" SATA 6GB/s 7200 64
CoolerMaster SEIDON 120V WATERCOOLING KIT
Zotac gtx 750
@ $890 from Sim Lim

Bro many thanks.. will look into it..

Have AIO but no ssd. I rather forgo AIO and get ssd.

Yes.. i thinking getting SSD too..
so need to save more..
but if the whole system too ex.. then no choice.. have to use fan

 

[hengheng220]

Hi guys.. many thanks for ur response



Hmm.. so the liquid cooling is not more saving than using fan? Im confused now..



Bro.. inbox clear.. do send the links..
I got small table so need small PC.. tho im looking at 24" monitor subsequently..

Bro aio also need to power at least one fan on the rad to work ma... So usually will consume more electric than normal fan.

 

[shadow84]

Difference between heatsink with fan and aio is that for the former, only the fan uses power. The heatsink passively transfers heat away frm cpu and fan pushes the heat out.

For aio, there is a built in pump and fans to push heat out. The pump will circulate water along its rad and the fan will cool it down. Both fans n pump uses power.

So, which you think is more energy saving?

Your budget isnt high, dun go for high end stuff. Just forgo the aio and get a ssd. If still got some moola left, de get a cheapo heatsink like deepcool gammaxx 200.

 

[royfrosty]

First i would say i would not recommend an AIO. It does not save in terms of energy.

It does not mean that by cooling the CPU it will save energy. The amount of volts going in to the CPU is still the same.

Traditional heatsinks has a fan attached to it, it draws heat away from the CPU and the fan just cools the fins of the heatsink. The heatsink is aka the heat exchanger.

AIO has a pump in it. It moves the water from the radiator (aka heat exchanger) back to the pump head (which has a copper heads) to draw the heat away from the CPU and leads to the heat exchanger, which has a fan attached to it. The fan will then cools the fins of the radiator and return cool water back to the pump head.

Also take note that even the thermal output of 100w comes out from the cpu it is still 100w worth of heat. Where ever it goes to, be it a AIO radiator or the traditional heatsink.

Only good thing about AIO is that it is slightly efficient than traditional heatsink. It allows the heat to be dissipated better and push out of the chassis easier. Unlike traditional heatsinks, the hot air pushed out is still within the chassis. And you will take time to exhaust the hot air within it.

Lastly with that kind of budget, no point going an AIO. You are better off with an SSD like what shadow84 had mentioned. And also a mATX board would give you more better value.

Asrock B75m DGS + i5-3350p ~ $271
Crucial 4gb 1600mhz ~ $45
Crucial m500 120gb ~ $115
Zotac GTX750 1gb ~ $169
CM311 + FSP Hexa 500w 80+ ~ $105
Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit OEM ~ $110

Total ~ $815. Buy at tradepac. DIY

When you save up the extra money, just go for a WD 1tb Blue ~ $75.

 

[intrance]

Bro aio also need to power at least one fan on the rad to work ma... So usually will consume more electric than normal fan.

Difference between heatsink with fan and aio is that for the former, only the fan uses power. The heatsink passively transfers heat away frm cpu and fan pushes the heat out.

For aio, there is a built in pump and fans to push heat out. The pump will circulate water along its rad and the fan will cool it down. Both fans n pump uses power.

So, which you think is more energy saving?

Your budget isnt high, dun go for high end stuff. Just forgo the aio and get a ssd. If still got some moola left, de get a cheapo heatsink like deepcool gammaxx 200.

First i would say i would not recommend an AIO. It does not save in terms of energy.

It does not mean that by cooling the CPU it will save energy. The amount of volts going in to the CPU is still the same.

Traditional heatsinks has a fan attached to it, it draws heat away from the CPU and the fan just cools the fins of the heatsink. The heatsink is aka the heat exchanger.

AIO has a pump in it. It moves the water from the radiator (aka heat exchanger) back to the pump head (which has a copper heads) to draw the heat away from the CPU and leads to the heat exchanger, which has a fan attached to it. The fan will then cools the fins of the radiator and return cool water back to the pump head.

Also take note that even the thermal output of 100w comes out from the cpu it is still 100w worth of heat. Where ever it goes to, be it a AIO radiator or the traditional heatsink.

Only good thing about AIO is that it is slightly efficient than traditional heatsink. It allows the heat to be dissipated better and push out of the chassis easier. Unlike traditional heatsinks, the hot air pushed out is still within the chassis. And you will take time to exhaust the hot air within it.

Lastly with that kind of budget, no point going an AIO. You are better off with an SSD like what shadow84 had mentioned. And also a mATX board would give you more better value.

so thats mean.. the real advantage of liquid cooling is more efficient in dissipating the heat rather than saving the electric bill..
learn a new thing today.. many many thanks bros...

to the bros who posted the recommendation pc parts/configuration, i really appreciate.. thanks

 

[shadow84]

so thats mean.. the real advantage of liquid cooling is more efficient in dissipating the heat rather than saving the electric bill..
learn a new thing today.. many many thanks bros...

to the bros who posted the recommendation pc parts/configuration, i really appreciate.. thanks

The amount of heat output is still the same, jus that the heat is being transfered away from the cpu and pushed out elsewhere.

 

[hoven00]

I wouldn't go for water cooling if you're on a budget. Heatsink is more than sufficient.
Anyway, if you're looking for small compact cases, I really like Jonsbo U3 (matx)

Slightly more expensive than other cases at ~$130 though. Looking at this case makes me drool

 

[erwinrommel]

I know it's going to be an anti climax, but i recommend a Mac mini. Just nice for your needs, can play your game and fits your budget.