Discussion | Beverage Container Return Scheme BCRS

[VEF888]

Nope but pretty sure they don't use their free time cause it make more sense to be looking through the bin while they are collecting and throwing the rubbish.. if they had thrown the rubbish then there will be no cans left to collect.. so they must definitely do it during their work time..

that's one possible scenario, but certainly not the only one. the cans could be collected after being left in common areas, or yes, they could look through the bins before they're tied up and thrown away. it's no different from an office worker using the desktop to browse the internet, check stock prices or take care of personal stuff, as long as the job gets done. what's the big fuss about bah?

 

[Heriophant]

Alot of BCRS haters in this thread... BCRS wan suiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

 

[pohw0008]

that's one possible scenario, but certainly not the only one. the cans could be collected after being left in common areas, or yes, they could look through the bins before they're tied up and thrown away. it's no different from an office worker using the desktop to browse the internet, check stock prices or take care of personal stuff, as long as the job gets done. what's the big fuss about bah?

Well if no one say anything then so be it.. but if people complain then be prepared to be warn as the company won't like to see them doing such thing during work hours.. there are cleaners being warn etc to be seen picking up or collecting cardboard from work place to take home even before this bcrs thing..

It's like fighting with each other for resources and now so happen that the cans are the resources..

 

[whatheheck]

TT link

 

[Joseph12]

no la, bbt hardly sell canned drinks, why would they cannibalize their sales?
one group is a supermarket, the other group is a charity org

Ohhh
You have much to learn my young Apprentice
You learn something from sleeping next to Machine 16 hours a day when you are not trawling

 

[Joseph12]

You know the cleaner don't have to rummage into the bin for their job right..

The just have to take the whole bag out and tight then throw.. if they spend time looking for the cans mean that they are spending work time to do personal things no?

I don't know why you posted such things to me
I am not advocating the cleaners must have the exemption they continue to have
I am saying what happened to that law and an exemption was given to them which you can argue they are abusing, though the argument can be made they aren't & they still can be charged

Anyway they do rummage the bins in public as part of their job

 

[coldish]

what rubbish...the sinkies chose to discard the cans in this case, no?

You said it in defence that town council staffs picked up because sinkies choose to discard it.

So I am calling u out that the rubbish is at the side of your court.
Because your rhertoric smell of rubbish in the first place. If sinkies dont discard the cans at the hdb rubbish chute where should they discard? And if sinkies discard their rubbish rightfully, why should they be a convenient reason for being a source of the rubbish that someone is benefitting from?

And my earlier question did Town Council said residents should not discard the cans in their chute otherwise their staffs have the rights to pick it up?

mental rubbish is worse... who's blaming sinkies? your own imagination ah?

the situation is simply that sinkies decide to discard the bottles, while others choose to pick them up from the rubbish bin. so what exactly is the issue? both are doing what they want, neither is doing anything wrong, and one doesn't affect the other. what's there to argue about?

Just dont point your finger at sinkies I have nothing to argue.
And it is not as though only sinkies live in hdb flats.

 

[pohw0008]

I don't know why you posted such things to me
I am not advocating the cleaners must have the exemption they continue to have
I am saying what happened to that law and an exemption was given to them which you can argue they are abusing, though the argument can be made they aren't & they still can be charged

Anyway they do rummage the bins in public as part of their job

No — rummaging for own collection is *not* part of cleaner job scope.

Cleaner's official scope per NEA / Town Council contract:

*What they ARE supposed to do:*
- Clear bins and bin centre, compact waste
- Wash bins / bin centre
- Clear litter around bin area
- Sort only for "official purposes" — e.g., removing bulky waste, ensuring recyclables don't jam compactor

*What they are NOT supposed to do:*
- Rummage through public bins to collect cans/bottles for BCRS 10c refund
- Set aside piles of recyclables to sell privately
- Open bagged household waste to search

In fact, most cleaning contracts say:
> All recyclable materials collected during work remain property of Town Council / NEA, not the worker.

That's why if cleaner does it, the company can take disciplinary action — warning letter, retraining, or retrench / redeploy if repeated. It's considered using work time for side business.

NEA's clarification after BCRS:
- Cleaner can pick up a can *while clearing* (like on floor) and return for 10c as personal? Grey area — but cannot open bins and dig.
- If they systematically rummage bins / HDB chute area / recycling bins — that's illegal even for cleaners, same law as public.

 

[Joseph12]

No — rummaging for own collection is *not* part of cleaner job scope.

Cleaner's official scope per NEA / Town Council contract:

*What they ARE supposed to do:*
- Clear bins and bin centre, compact waste
- Wash bins / bin centre
- Clear litter around bin area
- Sort only for "official purposes" — e.g., removing bulky waste, ensuring recyclables don't jam compactor

*What they are NOT supposed to do:*
- Rummage through public bins to collect cans/bottles for BCRS 10c refund
- Set aside piles of recyclables to sell privately
- Open bagged household waste to search

In fact, most cleaning contracts say:
> All recyclable materials collected during work remain property of Town Council / NEA, not the worker.

That's why if cleaner does it, the company can take disciplinary action — warning letter, retraining, or retrench / redeploy if repeated. It's considered using work time for side business.

NEA's clarification after BCRS:
- Cleaner can pick up a can *while clearing* (like on floor) and return for 10c as personal? Grey area — but cannot open bins and dig.
- If they systematically rummage bins / HDB chute area / recycling bins — that's illegal even for cleaners, same law as public.

Good
Then should take action against cleaners
When is that going to take place

 

[jq75]

No — rummaging for own collection is *not* part of cleaner job scope.

Cleaner's official scope per NEA / Town Council contract:

*What they ARE supposed to do:*
- Clear bins and bin centre, compact waste
- Wash bins / bin centre
- Clear litter around bin area
- Sort only for "official purposes" — e.g., removing bulky waste, ensuring recyclables don't jam compactor

*What they are NOT supposed to do:*
- Rummage through public bins to collect cans/bottles for BCRS 10c refund
- Set aside piles of recyclables to sell privately
- Open bagged household waste to search

In fact, most cleaning contracts say:
> All recyclable materials collected during work remain property of Town Council / NEA, not the worker.

That's why if cleaner does it, the company can take disciplinary action — warning letter, retraining, or retrench / redeploy if repeated. It's considered using work time for side business.

NEA's clarification after BCRS:
- Cleaner can pick up a can *while clearing* (like on floor) and return for 10c as personal? Grey area — but cannot open bins and dig.
- If they systematically rummage bins / HDB chute area / recycling bins — that's illegal even for cleaners, same law as public.

i think as long worker cleaning efficiency not affected, who cares? they didn't rob or steal

 

[VEF888]

You said it in defence that town council staffs picked up because sinkies choose to discard it.

So I am calling u out that the rubbish is at the side of your court.
Because your rhertoric smell of rubbish in the first place. If sinkies dont discard the cans at the hdb rubbish chute where should they discard? And if sinkies discard their rubbish rightfully, why should they be a convenient reason for being a source of the rubbish that someone is benefitting from?

And my earlier question did Town Council said residents should not discard the cans in their chute otherwise their staffs have the rights to pick it up?

Just dont point your finger at sinkies I have nothing to argue.
And it is not as though only sinkies live in hdb flats.

you're going round in circles and arguing against something nobody said. nobody is blaming sinkies for discarding their cans in the rubbish chute. that's exactly where rubbish belongs.

the point is that once something is discarded, someone else may find value in it and collect it. what's wrong with that? nobody is forcing residents to do anything differently, nor is anyone saying town council staff have some special right to take the cans.

and no, the town council doesn't need to issue instructions for every possible thing that happens around a rubbish bin. you're making a mountain out of something that really isn't an issue.

 

[coldish]

you're going round in circles and arguing against something nobody said. nobody is blaming sinkies for discarding their cans in the rubbish chute. that's exactly where rubbish belongs.

the point is that once something is discarded, someone else may find value in it and collect it. what's wrong with that? nobody is forcing residents to do anything differently, nor is anyone saying town council staff have some special right to take the cans.

and no, the town council doesn't need to issue instructions for every possible thing that happens around a rubbish bin. you're making a mountain out of something that really isn't an issue.

The words come from you and I have quoted it. And I quote it once more.
You can deny for all I care.
And since TC did not make any statement regarding this, residents have the rights to discard their rubbish at the designated locations and regardless who pick it up.
Hence your statement below is not respectful to sinkies.
Other than that I like have mentioned I have no issues who picked up the rubbish. Thats all.

what rubbish...the sinkies chose to discard the cans in this case, no?

 

[standarture]

It's bad design if the citizens can't properly get their 10 cents back. It's still money.

 

[Evil_Boss]

you're going round in circles and arguing against something nobody said. nobody is blaming sinkies for discarding their cans in the rubbish chute. that's exactly where rubbish belongs.

the point is that once something is discarded, someone else may find value in it and collect it. what's wrong with that? nobody is forcing residents to do anything differently, nor is anyone saying town council staff have some special right to take the cans.

and no, the town council doesn't need to issue instructions for every possible thing that happens around a rubbish bin. you're making a mountain out of something that really isn't an issue.

Once discarded it belongs to the govt

 

[toolbox03]

https://www.facebook.com/2710587919...to-collect-bottle-and-can-f/10246910627044913

 

[Joseph12]

https://www.facebook.com/2710587919...to-collect-bottle-and-can-f/10246910627044913

Don't know what's funnier
Determined crocodile or photo

 

[LWZ]

282

Two of my cans kept rejected so I am now holding onto them. They are large Sapporo beer cans from Donki with past3d BCRS stickers.

284

Tried again at another machine and this time both went through easily

286

Another similar can got rejected by two machines I passed by on a grocery run... gonna try it at three other machines this week...

 

[Joseph12]

It's bad design if the citizens can't properly get their 10 cents back. It's still money.

Gave up money few times
Once bottle "eaten" by machine. How to pursue that?
Other times reader not working
Only issue paper receipt
Couldn't be bothered

 

[LWZ]

https://www.facebook.com/2710587919...to-collect-bottle-and-can-f/10246910627044913

Wait later inside got rat bite him then he know

 

[Joseph12]

286

Another similar can got rejected by two machines I passed by on a grocery run... gonna try it at three other machines this week...

Can machine even "read " the can
If cannot don't bother

I had one today
Could be read but "unique" drink
Never seen before
But cannot be accepted by machine no matter what

Tried many times with same machine
Finally got it