DIY PC Rig Recommendations For 2025

NightRaven49

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Hi, looking for new pc using mainly for gaming like starfield and alan wake, need to be high fps with ray tracing on using 1440p screen, which processor and gpu combo suitable?
starfield can forget about high fps at 1440p, 4090 cannot even guarantee 120fps at native 1080p. personally id suggest a 13700k + 4080 combo at the minimum, though u will likely need dlss + fg to hit those high framerates in games that support those technologies.
what I am looking for:
I don’t mind intel or amd. Prefer bang for buck. I did some research on ryzen 7 7800x3d and also amd 7800xt.

budget $2500.
ur games are not difficult to run, ur 3060 will do just fine. the parts deepblue quoted from the enthusiast reco are good enough to address the poor cpu performance.
that said, test have been done by a tuber indicating that disabling the e-cores will increase the game performance by 20% +/-.. and the CPU will still run at 80 to 100% on those specific cores.. and in such condition, building myself a 14700 or 14900 will not make a diff to power consumption cause tdp is still 253w..
if ur gonna disable e cores, then i dont see why u should spend $200 more on something ur gonna disable anyway. utilisation is not the end of the story, for eg a 100% utilisation on a 12400 will not be a 100% utilisation on a 12600k with e cores disabled (both 6p, but the 12600k clocks at least 10% higher). power consumption is the main thing u want to focus on.
so much of googling and can't find any concrete evidence showing different motherboard performance.. all benchmarks are done base on CPUs and all using the same maximus motherboard.. this is why i'm asking if anyone can recommend or at least educate me on how this vrms thing works and what is consider enough for 14900kf....

you see, everyone says the same thing.. gaming doesn't need so much vrms.. this that this that.. but that's in general.. in general, games don't pull 80-100% on 6 cores..
vrm (voltage regulator module) is simply the power delivery to the cpu. in order to do its job of keeping voltage to the cpu stable, it switches itself on and off very quickly, but this switching generates heat. the more power the cpu demands, the more heat is generated by the vrm. the temperature of the vrm needs to be within a safe limit to avoid damage, otherwise the motherboard will throttle the cpu (ie reduce performance) to reduce the power consumption and temperature. more premium boards like z790s usually employ more robust vrms which operate at a lower temperature, allowing the cpu to maintain max performance longer or even indefinitely.

for games, i really dont think u should be worried too much by this, since ive not heard of any game pulling over 200w sustained on a 14900k, which is quite a bit less than the 12900k power consumption i mentioned for the b760 tuf (which i also mentioned that that would only be in an all core workload). even if u do all core workloads, u will be served well by any z790 board (which u should get if ur getting a k cpu).

most reviewers dont test motherboard performance anymore because provided the same parts (cpu, ram, storage etc), most of them give effectively the same performance.
Like that won’t 3060 be bottle necking my build? Haha
imo gpu bottleneck should be what ur aiming for, since it is the single most expensive part in ur system and is also the easiest to upgrade. i dont see the point of replacing it if it is still enough for ur games. its not possible to make a build that is perfectly balanced for every scenario anyway.
Btw my nzxt h210i can reuse? The last time I tried to fit in all this it was giving me hell due to it being so small.
h210i is mini itx, so u have to opt for a mitx board (the suggested board is matx).
What’s the diff between cl30,cl32,cl34? Amd cpu requires higher speed like 6000 right?
cl refers to cas latency, which in turn refers to the number of clock cycles required for a memory module to return data after it receives a command to retrieve data. this can be used in conjunction with the data transfer rate (the familiar but ultimately misleading mhz) to calculate basic memory latency, which is crucial for ryzen cpus, so a higher mhz is not always better.
ddr stands for double data rate, so this means the actual mhz of the ram is half that of the advertised data transfer rate. for 6000mt/s (usually labelled 6000mhz) ram, the true frequency is 3000mhz. so 1 clock cycle takes 1/3000 of a second. then u multiply with the cl number to get the latency: for cl30, it is 1/100 of a second (10ns), for cl32, it is 10.667ns, for cl34, it is 11.333ns. the lower the latency the better, so a 5600c28 kit for eg can outperform a 6000c36 kit. ryzen x3d cpus are less affected by memory latency though, along with most intel cpus.
 

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@NightRaven49 thanks for explaining about the ram. So for now my cpu is the one bottlenecking my computer right?

I will go for:
CPU: 7800x3d
Mobo: asus rog b650e-I gaming WiFi
I think I’m using a cooler master cpu cooler but the space is so tight that it is like maybe 1mm or less away from my current ram. Able to also recommend a 6000mhz cl30 ram 64gb that is low?

I would reuse my psu and gpu.
Get a new 2TB ssd.
 
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for games, i really dont think u should be worried too much by this, since ive not heard of any game pulling over 200w sustained on a 14900k, which is quite a bit less than the 12900k power consumption i mentioned for the b760 tuf (which i also mentioned that that would only be in an all core workload). even if u do all core workloads, u will be served well by any z790 board (which u should get if ur getting a k cpu).
i'm going to see how much power the game will pull on a 14900kf coming december..
i will go for a strix E if it release by december.. if not, i'll go for strix F.. i rather go slightly higher (within my budget) than later regret and waste money changing motherboard..

additionally..

this guy is drawing about 110 to 120w constant on a 7950x in Battle Arena and cpu temps is about 70-80 degrees..
i'm not sure if he did set the CPU Affinity setting and if he did OC... most probably he did affinity settings since he's an old skool player..

really appreciate that you wrote so much to help the forumers here.. can't thank you enough.


ps: if a 6 core cpu running at 4ghz vs a 24 core cpu running 6ghz
even if the game only uses 6 cores.. i will still go for the 24 core CPU cause the speed of the CPU is important when playing this game.. action games, fps, 1% low and frame time is important.. i'm gonna min max this..
 
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Old rig:



New rig DIY from 2022:



Wanted to wait for AM5 but my old rig broke down in June 2022 before AM5 was out. So I had to make do with AM4. Hope it will last until AM6 is out. CPU cooler is China brand from Aliexpress. I had to change it to accommodate 4 ram sticks as a bigger air cooler would block the first ram slot. I prefer double fan than single fan air cooler. Choose not to go with AIO as it will expose my mobo's black VRM heatsink more clearly which isn't fitting in an all white case. I bought this black mobo at an impulse without thinking that it may not blend in a white case. I was desperate to use my PC as soon as possible and just picked and ordered at random without research. Sorry for the desk as it is a mess with lots of unused and loose cables lying around so I choose not to show it.

CPU: Ryzen 7 5700X
Motherboard: ASUS TUF Gaming B550M-E WIFI
RAM: Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR4 3200mhz (4 x 8GB)
GPU: Gigabyte AERO OC RTX 4060 8GB
CPU Cooler: Alseye M-M120D
PSU: Seasonic Focus GX Gold 750W
Storage: Gigabyte Aorus Gen4 7000s NVMe 1TB(Main OS), 1 X Transcend SATA SSD 240GB(Reused from old rig), 1 x Samsung 860EVO SATA SSD 250 GB(Reused from old rig)
Case: Coolermaster TD300 Mesh
Additional accesories: Lian Li Strimer Plus V2 PSU extension cables, 5 X ARGB Coolermaster Sickleflow 120MM fans, 2 x RGB strips from Aliexpress, Daisy chain splitters for 12V and 5V rgb connectors, AIDA64 LCD screen from Aliexpress
 
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So for now my cpu is the one bottlenecking my computer right?
depends on the use case, if ur gaming and u see ur gpu usage not near 100% then yes.
I will go for:
CPU: 7800x3d
thought u say u want value? :s22: i would say the 7500f is enough, it offers 80% of the 7800x3ds performance at 1080p, and even more at higher resolutions, for less than half the price.
Mobo: any mITX mobo to recommend?
any mitx am5 mobo will be good, most ryzens sip power when gaming.
Able to also recommend a 6000mhz cl30 ram 32gb that is low?
can follow the enthusiast pc reco parts list, got the adata xpg lancer from tradepac. if ur willing to give up local warranty, u may be able to find cheaper kits elsewhere too.
i'm going to see how much power the game will pull on a 14900kf coming december..
i will go for a strix E if it release by december.. if not, i'll go for strix F.. i rather go slightly higher (within my budget) than later regret and waste money changing motherboard..
i did come across a video for 1440p bdo gameplay with a 13900k, while there were spikes around 200w, power usage of the cpu was generally under 150w, which any half decent board should comfortably handle. if ur gaming at a higher resolution, which reduces the load on the cpu, then u can expect power consumption to be even lower. i wouldn't buy strix solely for the vrm though, more for their over the top features. if u dont need those features, i dont think u will go wrong with the tuf z790 either.
 

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@NightRaven49 yes I wanted value but since I’m only spending on 4 parts.. I wonder why not splurge.. having 7800x3d gona last me quite awhile right?
Tbh I have been always spending at the borderline when building a com.. like enough to run what I play can Liao..
Since life have gotten a lil better and I haven’t been spending on myself for quite awhile (i7-7700k I tong quite long).
I understand your point as the games I play doesn’t require as much as 7800x3d. Maybe I will take some time and decide as there’s not really a rush. Before I upgraded to a 3060 which took me like nearly 1 year to get it. I was using a rx570 used card I think from a crypto miner.
I want to spend and spoil myself but sometimes will also be rational to think as in the end.. not as young as last time can sit infront of com 24/7 play game. Play awhile boring liao. Rather lie down on bed watch tv.

thanks for the help and inputs!! Will update soon what I hoot as it takes quite awhile for me to make up my mind. Hoot bag/toys for family I never think so much.. but when buy things for myself… I think many many..
 

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Anyone has experience with the Meshroom S case? I am wondering do I need to go AIO cooling or I can stick to air cool for this. Moving to this case to save some space on my table due to..... seniors designing the furniture years back without consideration a computer is needed
 

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I first bought a set of Lian Li Strimer Plus V2 for the 24 pin connector with the L3-Connect controller included. Everything worked flawlessly. I then went to get the 2 x 8 pin strimer plus for my GPU a month later. I plugged everything in correctly but my GPU was not able to boot and I had to press the connectors firmly together again in order to get a boot. It happened again for the second cold boot after I moved the cables a little as it was a little out of place and I had to open my case and do the same thing to get it to boot. As a result, it causes my hard drive to initial automatic repair upon a successful boot. Reminds me of my old rig when it often failed to boot after a bump and I had to press the connectors into the mobo and gpu hard to get a successful boot. Is it a problem with the Lian Li extension cables? The PC booted fine without the 2 x 8 pin extension plugged in.
 

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i did come across a video for 1440p bdo gameplay with a 13900k, while there were spikes around 200w, power usage of the cpu was generally under 150w, which any half decent board should comfortably handle. if ur gaming at a higher resolution, which reduces the load on the cpu, then u can expect power consumption to be even lower. i wouldn't buy strix solely for the vrm though, more for their over the top features. if u dont need those features, i dont think u will go wrong with the tuf z790 either.
This is what i'm talking about..
the CPU usage on this stupid game is crazy... haha...
really appreciate that you really went to look up the game benchmark and see it for yourself cause many people don't believe me when i say i fear and foresee the game might pull 200w on the CPU.

btw, i will be building 3x of this same setup (14900kf) but with different board due to the people who are getting this pc have different budget and different use cases outside the game.

thanks and can't thanks @deepblue_82 and @NightRaven49 enough for the help..
 
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This is what i'm talking about..
the CPU usage on this stupid game is crazy... haha...
really appreciate that you really went to look up the game benchmark and see it for yourself cause many people don't believe me when i say i fear and foresee the game might pull 200w on the CPU.

btw, i will be building 3x of this same setup (14900kf but with different board due to the people who are getting this pc have different budget and different use cases outside the game.

thanks and can't thanks @deepblue_82 and @NightRaven49 enough for the help..
dont worry bro if u feel that then just go for a z790 mb with more vrm and bigger heat sink.. coz in the end u are using it and its ur build u can do how ever u like thats why its call diy pc...
 

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Anyone has experience with the Meshroom S case? I am wondering do I need to go AIO cooling or I can stick to air cool for this. Moving to this case to save some space on my table due to..... seniors designing the furniture years back without consideration a computer is needed

Was considering meshroom s, yes you can do air with it but do consider our higher ambient and the tdp of the gpu and cpu.

I ended with a rather similar case, revolt 3 which can also go air cool. But I decided to go with aio because of noise and in case I want to upgrade to a higher tdp cpu.

You can search sffpc in reddit for more references
 

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@NightRaven49 yes I wanted value but since I’m only spending on 4 parts.. I wonder why not splurge.. having 7800x3d gona last me quite awhile right?
Tbh I have been always spending at the borderline when building a com.. like enough to run what I play can Liao..
Since life have gotten a lil better and I haven’t been spending on myself for quite awhile (i7-7700k I tong quite long).
I understand your point as the games I play doesn’t require as much as 7800x3d. Maybe I will take some time and decide as there’s not really a rush. Before I upgraded to a 3060 which took me like nearly 1 year to get it. I was using a rx570 used card I think from a crypto miner.
I want to spend and spoil myself but sometimes will also be rational to think as in the end.. not as young as last time can sit infront of com 24/7 play game. Play awhile boring liao. Rather lie down on bed watch tv.

thanks for the help and inputs!! Will update soon what I hoot as it takes quite awhile for me to make up my mind. Hoot bag/toys for family I never think so much.. but when buy things for myself… I think many many..
for gaming wise 7800x3d is pretty top of the line... so it should last u a many years
i am also like u only spend borderline when building a pc
i brought my rx570 8gb b4 the mining boom, so its was very cheap.
i am still waiting to get a 3060 12gb at under retail
 

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dont worry bro if u feel that then just go for a z790 mb with more vrm and bigger heat sink.. coz in the end u are using it and its ur build u can do how ever u like thats why its call diy pc...
no la.. cause seeking advise but people doubt me when i say i foresee the game pull 200w.. everyone don't believe me and tell me don't waste money on boards..

if the game seriously and constantly pull 150 to 200w for the 8 to 16 hours of gaming session over the weekend.. i don't think a cheapo board will last me very long.. that's why i seek advise on how much is too much of vrms.. cause i know maximus board are used for ln2 or extreme OC-ing
 

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no la.. cause seeking advise but people doubt me when i say i foresee the game pull 200w.. everyone don't believe me and tell me don't waste money on boards..

if the game seriously and constantly pull 150 to 200w for the 8 to 16 hours of gaming session over the weekend.. i don't think a cheapo board will last me very long.. that's why i seek advise on how much is too much of vrms.. cause i know maximus board are used for ln2 or extreme OC-ing
there is no such things as too much vrms.. its only how much u are willing to spend or how much money u have.
you also can monitor the temps now on ur current mb... bro dont worry... everyone believes you, we are just giving a bit of advice, its still ur pc in the end..
 

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you also can monitor the temps now on ur current mb...
eh? this function i thought limited to expensive boards only?
if tuf pro have it, it would be best..

let me go home and check my b450 tuf plus tonight using hwmon..
i don't recall seeing it
 

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Anyone has experience with the Meshroom S case? I am wondering do I need to go AIO cooling or I can stick to air cool for this.
i would go aio unless im running a lower power cpu. up to 74mm clearance means u can only do lower profile coolers, which would be fine for gaming but if ur going to do core heavy applications then an aio would do the job better and quieter.
if the game seriously and constantly pull 150 to 200w for the 8 to 16 hours of gaming session over the weekend.. i don't think a cheapo board will last me very long.. that's why i seek advise on how much is too much of vrms.. cause i know maximus board are used for ln2 or extreme OC-ing
if ur worried about power consumption, why not go for a 7800x3d? it draws about half the power and has comparable if not better performance. it also has 8 proper cores which is the same as a 14900k with e cores disabled.
eh? this function i thought limited to expensive boards only?
if tuf pro have it, it would be best..

let me go home and check my b450 tuf plus tonight using hwmon..
i don't recall seeing it
my regular msi b450m mortar has a temperature sensor for vrm. i would be more surprised if a z790 board doesnt have it.
 

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eh? this function i thought limited to expensive boards only?
if tuf pro have it, it would be best..

let me go home and check my b450 tuf plus tonight using hwmon..
i don't recall seeing it
yes can use hwmon to keep track...
 

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i would go aio unless im running a lower power cpu. up to 74mm clearance means u can only do lower profile coolers, which would be fine for gaming but if ur going to do core heavy applications then an aio would do the job better and quieter.

if ur worried about power consumption, why not go for a 7800x3d? it draws about half the power and has comparable if not better performance. it also has 8 proper cores which is the same as a 14900k with e cores disabled.

my regular msi b450m mortar has a temperature sensor for vrm. i would be more surprised if a z790 board doesnt have it.

like @NightRaven49 said it could work better for u using a 7800x3d... with actual cores
then in this case going intel is wrong...
 

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Was considering meshroom s, yes you can do air with it but do consider our higher ambient and the tdp of the gpu and cpu.

I ended with a rather similar case, revolt 3 which can also go air cool. But I decided to go with aio because of noise and in case I want to upgrade to a higher tdp cpu.

You can search sffpc in reddit for more references

i would go aio unless im running a lower power cpu. up to 74mm clearance means u can only do lower profile coolers, which would be fine for gaming but if ur going to do core heavy applications then an aio would do the job better and quieter.

if ur worried about power consumption, why not go for a 7800x3d? it draws about half the power and has comparable if not better performance. it also has 8 proper cores which is the same as a 14900k with e cores disabled.

my regular msi b450m mortar has a temperature sensor for vrm. i would be more surprised if a z790 board doesnt have it.
icic.... I better start looking for a 280mm aio now. I wonder how long it will take for Asrock's B650i to reach our shores; prob will get MSI's in the end
 

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for gaming wise 7800x3d is pretty top of the line... so it should last u a many years
i am also like u only spend borderline when building a pc
i brought my rx570 8gb b4 the mining boom, so its was very cheap.
i am still waiting to get a 3060 12gb at under retail
Ya lo… sometimes spend already heart pain. That’s why go almost top of the line for once bah.. can’t wait to get it.. but looking at 7500f….. how much cheaper it is… also giving me dilemma headache.

you still using rx570??
 
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