Do u all belive in bazi / zi wei dou shu? - Part 13

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Honestly I was also addicted for a while. Just keep on wanting to learn more n more. But eventually I give up on fengshui for now cos is a big topic to cover. I got no feeling for yijing, so also not much focus now

I wanted to help people, family and myself. I got no hobbies for many years so finally found something to learn n get addicted to. Eventually I hope can do this as my sideline
I got an ex-colleague using NLP to help people. Doesn't mean need to use chinese astrology. There are many ways to help.

But then one thing I realised after learning all those are: Want to help others? Help yourself first. 要帮人?先帮自己.

I put Yi jing last because it's a huge topic and need to remember a lot of things. Perhaps my last studies will be Yi jing 64 hexagram but course very expensive. $5000+ and don't know credible or not.

Not many people teach Yi jing 64 hexagram here.
 

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How can b too good. Moi in bad luck cycle for many years le :(
One master mentioned the traditional bazi reading is about good luck and bad luck. Bad luck do less thing, good luck do more thing.

But should we focus on good luck and bad luck? Even though a luck cycle doesn't favour you means bad. There are other things to do also.
 

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I got an ex-colleague using NLP to help people. Doesn't mean need to use chinese astrology. There are many ways to help.

But then one thing I realised after learning all those are: Want to help others? Help yourself first. 要帮人?先帮自己.

I put Yi jing last because it's a huge topic and need to remember a lot of things. Perhaps my last studies will be Yi jing 64 hexagram but course very expensive. $5000+ and don't know credible or not.

Not many people teach Yi jing 64 hexagram here.
I cannot help myself, I find that the reading for myself a bit biased. Like a doctor cannot heal himself theory
 

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I am not sure your age group but I admire your desire to help people. This is a very good motive to learn to begin with.

You need a mentor to guide your learning path. You must identify what is the outcome of your learning you want to accomplish and map a path to achieve it over a defined period of time.
Actually started off wanting my help my daughter cos she got depression. Then slowly the interest grew bigger n I wanna try help others cos I kpo with their life
 

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I cannot help myself, I find that the reading for myself a bit biased. Like a doctor cannot heal himself theory
I can understand what you mean. Usually read for ownself will be biased.

But however, if we cannot change our own destiny, how can we change others?

For example, you charge a fees to read other people bazi. The first thing in their mind will think how has bazi reading change your life? If you cannot change your destiny or help yourself, how can they trust you or believe in you? If want to make other people believe, then we need to show to them how we change our own destiny
 

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My real personal experience:

Many years ago I was faced with a career choices of 3 options. In the end the first two I preferred one did not materialise and I have to settle for the last option, which is the least preferred option.

After so many years I look back I think the third choice was the right one, because later I was told the other two companies suffer a lot of people changes.

i already seen 2 cases of person in personal network do too well, fly very high and when they think everything is great, then kanna sabo and tio court case.

It's very hard to define too good if you think about it because everyone's definition is different.

While in great luck, rather than worry 反, more productive to lift more people up.


Link: 中庸之道

只要坚持忠恕之道,人们就会相安无事、和平共处,人们就会达到素其位而行、无入而不自得焉、上不怨天、下不尤人的思想境界。所以《中庸》说:“君子素其位而行,不愿乎其外。素富贵,行乎富贵。素贫贱,行乎贫贱。素夷锹,行乎夷锹。素患难,行乎患难。君子无入而不自得焉。在上位不陵下,在下位不援上,正己而不求于人,则无怨。上不怨天,下不尤人。故君子居易以俟命,小人行险以徼幸。

解:一个人无论处在怎样的境遇之中(富贵、贫穷、顺境、逆境),都能保持自在安详、自得其乐的心境。说白了,就是不管混得好不好,都始终保持内心强大。做到这一点,就可以称为“君子”,即心灵健康的人。

sometimes you can lift alot of people but when high up, sometimes will attract red eye or offend others when we don't intent to.

中庸之道 is easy to say but when reach that stage alot of people will forget.

i also thought i was doing well, then realize my friends less contact with me.. then i try to see what is wrong with my behavior.
 

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Actually started off wanting my help my daughter cos she got depression. Then slowly the interest grew bigger n I wanna try help others cos I kpo with their life

hope your daughter is doing well now with your guidance..

i realized nowadays people easily tio depression..

or could be in the past the rate of depression is also there but not diagnosed well.
 

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I can understand what you mean. Usually read for ownself will be biased.

But however, if we cannot change our own destiny, how can we change others?

For example, you charge a fees to read other people bazi. The first thing in their mind will think how has bazi reading change your life? If you cannot change your destiny or help yourself, how can they trust you or believe in you? If want to make other people believe, then we need to show to them how we change our own destiny
But u go see doctor, will not ask doctor if he healthy or not mah. U will only concern if he can treat u or not. Why must think differently when u read people's destiny?
 

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hope your daughter is doing well now with your guidance..

i realized nowadays people easily tio depression..

or could be in the past the rate of depression is also there but not diagnosed well.
Still testing in progress. She just started her new luck cycle. But her mental health is much better now starting from last year which tallies with her bazi

I cannot do anything to change her luck, just help her understand what is going on n let me understand what is going on with her
 

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I got an ex-colleague using NLP to help people. Doesn't mean need to use chinese astrology. There are many ways to help.

But then one thing I realised after learning all those are: Want to help others? Help yourself first. 要帮人?先帮自己.

I put Yi jing last because it's a huge topic and need to remember a lot of things. Perhaps my last studies will be Yi jing 64 hexagram but course very expensive. $5000+ and don't know credible or not.

Not many people teach Yi jing 64 hexagram here.
如果你只是指教导周易的卦爻辞,根本不需要$5000+ 。如果你们真的对周易有兴趣,本地有一个即将开办的周易课程(只是教卦爻辞) 35节的课才收取$525. 教师是一个低调的人。
 

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i already seen 2 cases of person in personal network do too well, fly very high and when they think everything is great, then kanna sabo and tio court case.



sometimes you can lift alot of people but when high up, sometimes will attract red eye or offend others when we don't intent to.

中庸之道 is easy to say but when reach that stage alot of people will forget.

i also thought i was doing well, then realize my friends less contact with me.. then i try to see what is wrong with my behavior.
It's also not difficult to remember to do good at any stage in life.

Maybe it's easier for me to write people out of my life, so I'm not too concerned. If a person is unfriendly or even hostile, the most efficient way is simply walk away. If eat civil lawsuit, there's always other options apart from win/lose outcome.

I just want to say, cheer up. Worrying won't solve anything. Because I've seen you wrote before 物极必反。

I'm also moving on to run business. Is there risk of me getting bankrupt or get sabo-ed? Yes, but I won't lose sleep over it. Personally, it is important to maintain high level of integrity and attention to detail. The rest is up to upstairs whether sunshine or thunderstorm.
 

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如果你只是指教导周易的卦爻辞,根本不需要$5000+ 。如果你们真的对周易有兴趣,本地有一个即将开办的周易课程(只是教卦爻辞) 35节的课才收取$525. 教师是一个低调的人。
Who is he?

The price I see from another private school cost a lot

Yijing Fundamentals LIVE Online Course - Almost $500
Yin Yang Numerology I Physical Classroom - Above $900
Yijing Hexagrams I LIVE Online Course - Above $650
Yijing Hexagrams II Physical Classroom - Above $650
 
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But u go see doctor, will not ask doctor if he healthy or not mah. U will only concern if he can treat u or not. Why must think differently when u read people's destiny?
For me, I don't want to hear, 'oh, now you are in bad luck cycle. Nothing much to do and hard to avoid. Just stay low loh, work hard loh, then wait until 20 years later and luck cycle change to be better. Bad luck is like that one, hard to or cannot avoid'

Everything has 2 sides, positive and negative, Yin and Yang. Most people just focus on the negative (bad luck cycle loh, stay low, tolerate this luck cycle) but forgot on the positive side.

Just like when people are depress, they often focus / dwell / see on the negative side. But as a bazi practitioner, we should bring them see the positive side or show them the light, even though when there's negative side.

Therefore, when a person is currently in a bad luck cycle, is it really all bad and nothing good?

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For me, I don't want to hear, 'oh, now you are in bad luck cycle. Nothing much to do and hard to avoid. Just stay low loh, work hard loh, then wait until 20 years later and luck cycle change to be better. Bad luck is like that one, hard to or cannot avoid'

Everything has 2 sides, positive and negative, Yin and Yang. Most people just focus on the negative (bad luck cycle loh, stay low, tolerate this luck cycle) but forgot on the positive side.

Just like when people are depress, they often focus / dwell / see on the negative side. But as a bazi practitioner, we should bring them see the positive side or show them the light, even though when there's negative side.

Therefore, when a person is currently in a bad luck cycle, is it really all bad and nothing good?
When people under the bad luck period and tio daiji, u say simi :poop: positive they also 笑不出来. Because at that current period, nothing seems to be positive or they already see a huge tsunami coming towards them.

Imo, better to 一刀见血,bad luck means bad luck, stay low, 做事不要假利害,lower expectation, eat healthy, expect more difficult periods, it is part and parcel of life. There's light in the tunnel after endure the bad luck period, hard truth! Many easily tio scam trying to change their luck.

Only 六亲 i will hold back alittle.
 
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When people under the bad luck period and tio daiji, u say simi :poop: positive they also 笑不出来. Because at that current period, nothing seems to be positive or they already see a huge tsunami coming towards them.

Imo, better to 一刀见血,bad luck means bad luck, stay low, 做事不要假利害,lower expectation, eat healthy, expect more difficult periods, it is part and parcel of life. There's light in the tunnel after endure the bad luck period, hard truth! Many easily tio scam trying to change their luck.

Only 六亲 i will hold back alittle.

我的原則很簡單。

能夠導人向善向上的就講。

會令人家破人亡,妻離子散的就不要講。

那些同樣的問題每天來問我的一概已讀不回。
 

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我的原則很簡單。

能夠導人向善向上的就講。

會令人家破人亡,妻離子散的就不要講。

那些同樣的問題每天來問我的一概已讀不回。
Online alot of such people, 1st comment '二婚命’. I was like... What the.... :spin:
 

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二婚命我看過很多,女命最明顯。

一般就跟她們講,你遲婚比較好會旺夫、花時間在事業上會比較快樂和有滿足感。
The problem is young people ask when can find 正缘,then tio comment 二婚命
 
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