Does future proofing actually exist?

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Alot of us try to get top end components so that in the near future, only need to change the gpu etc.

but how many of you really did that and save money in the process?

i for one end up just changing the whole rig cause psu might be dying, new tech in future like ddr5, sata 4 or some super speed header will take over and make the existing rig look pathetic overall.
 

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If your are lucky, nothing much is change so you will save some money. If not, have to spend again.
 

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Alot of us try to get top end components so that in the near future, only need to change the gpu etc.

but how many of you really did that and save money in the process?

i for one end up just changing the whole rig cause psu might be dying, new tech in future like ddr5, sata 4 or some super speed header will take over and make the existing rig look pathetic overall.

Just change parts as they spoil, no need change whole thing. That way can save $$
 

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My rig about five years and going strong now... Unintentionally future proofed when SB came out. Who knew back then that processor speeds weren't gonna speed up anymore... Only thing I changed was mobo cos my original mobo's USB 3 controller sucked.

Don't really play new games nowadays but my HD 5850 is still serving me well.
 

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There is no such thing as future proofing and by future proofing, it does not mean one will equate to saving money either.

CPU nowadays tends to be less improvement over the years, looking back Sandy Bridge users are pretty much happy with their CPU right now as compared to Skylake.

RAM even nowadays Intel based PC also do not utilize faster RAM usage.

Motherboard is the worse to buy the most expensive. It provides a lot of features, but do one really need that many features that the board has? Every gens the boards offer 1 or 2 new things from the previous gens, which in return, some dont even use it at the end of the day.

HDD and SSD are the best to buy. Fast storage are always needed. And bigger storage are needed to store lesser critical items, such as media stuffs movies, pictures etc. This is good to buy whatever is available in market, but to future proof it is rather difficult, going now the trend of m.2 PCIE ssd.

GPU this is the hardest to future proof. Every year a new gen of gpus arrive. Of cause this is good to spend on if one is gaming. Buying top end cards to enjoy eye candy performance. Although the next gen worth of games, you probably got to tone down more settings.

PSU is straight forward. One of the core component that a pc has. Not really needed to future proof. But a good one last a long way.

Casing needless to say. It works means it works lol.
 

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Alot of us try to get top end components so that in the near future, only need to change the gpu etc.

but how many of you really did that and save money in the process?

i for one end up just changing the whole rig cause psu might be dying, new tech in future like ddr5, sata 4 or some super speed header will take over and make the existing rig look pathetic overall.

It will only look pathetic if you continue to hold on for the endless influx of new technologies... :s22:
 

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Future proofing helps you save some money.

Not true, try 'upgrading' your old AMD Phenom II CPU to FX ones..

Sometimes you are spending on new stuffs that don't offer equal magnitude of performance improvement. You are wasting money in fact.
 

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Not true, try 'upgrading' your old AMD Phenom II CPU to FX ones..

Sometimes you are spending on new stuffs that don't offer equal magnitude of performance improvement. You are wasting money in fact.

yea, beside playing high end games or doing serious work, now day to day usage no need so high end mah....:(:(
 

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Future proof doesn't necessary means saving money ba. Its more like you build a rig with future upgrades in mind so that it'll be easier to upgrade shall the need arises.

E.g. build a skylake rig so that 3 - 5 years down the road, ram upgrades (ddr4) will be easier.

Or build a rig with spare slots or higher psu for additional hardware to be added in future.
 

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I bought a retail pack XP for $500+. At that time I thought that XP was the ultimate... future proofed. Why retail pack ? I could bring the OS to a new rig when the hardware craped out. Guess what now ? It wouldn't run on newer motherboard. So, what is future proofed for OS ? I am beginning think... will Linux be it ?:o
 

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My previous rig before I upgraded (i7-920) lasted me 6 years before I made the switch to Skylake this year. I changed one or two components along the way (SSD, GFX) but largely the system served my needs well.

My take is that if you want it, just buy. If you need the latest gfx to game, buy what your budget allows without thinking whether it will be overtaken in 6 months or 12 months, because there will ALWAYS be something new coming out. :)
 

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Oh, and equally important: Once you buy something, stop checking the pricelist to see if the price has dropped :s13:
 

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You end up keeping up with the latest hardware anyway since you will be upgrading to "future proof"
 

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How long will you define future proofing?

And how future proofing do you expect?

For me, anything that can surpass the warranty period of 3/4/5 yrs, that is already consider as future proofing for me. You can buy a 6700K now and i am sure it can last you for the next 4-5 yrs. FYI, my lab are still using C2D/C2Q to run our daily tasks and it is still ultra fast, with a level entry card you can still game on it!

And i agree with royfosty on the GPU part. That is the only one that i feel is the least future proofing part in a PC. But then, if you never game at intensive level and you prefer gameplay over eye-candy, then a good mid-high to high range graphic card should last you for at least 3 yrs or so.

So do i think future-proofing exist or it's a myth? I think it exist just how you define it that separate you and others.
 

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I upgrade once every 6 years. Every time , it's upgraded to the best/value option for all the parts. Been playing mostly on max settings throughout the years.

Next upgrade for me is year 2020. The year where law of physics met silicon limitation, cpu performance hits plateau. I expect AMD will be almost on par with Intel by then... lol.

PS: Laptop users are probably the bane of new game forums. Twice as slow and obsolete twice as fast. You'll literally need to buy a new top of the line laptop every 1.5 to 2 years to keep up for modern 3D gaming, especially those with DX11 or 12 effects. lol.
 
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Thought this was quite an interesting look at it:

http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/5-reasons-shouldnt-future-proof-pc/

Future-proofing is a common term when talking about computers and it simply refers to making sure that your computer will be able to adapt to new developments years down the road.

If you’re buying a new PC (or even better, building a new PC) then you want to know that it’s not going to get outdated anytime soon, right?

But is it really worth the effort and costs to future-proof a PC? Considering the rapid pace of change in the technology world, can a computer actually be made future-proof? Or would it be better to simply replace your old PC as it wears out?

Here’s why you may want to reconsider.

1. Not Everyone Needs Future-Proofing
The basic understanding of future-proofing is this: a PC that you buy now will still be able to run programs just as smoothly and efficiently — and be compatible with new technologies — a few years down the line without needing any upgrades or replacements.

Of course, this is open to a lot of interpretation.

First, the programs you run. A PC is more likely to stay future-proof if all you do is browse the web, watch some videos, and work on Microsoft Office. However, a PC may have trouble running new games at the best possible graphics settings or multiple operating systems simultaneously.

Second, “new technologies” is a vague term. If your PC ships with support for Wi-Fi 802.11ac or USB 3.1, which is the best possible right now, you might be left out of the loop if everyone ends up defaulting to 802.11ah or the promising USB Type-C. It’s simply impossible to predict what the new standards will be in a few years.

Long story short, future-proofing is unnecessary if…

  • You’re fine with playing newer games at sub-optimal settings.
  • You mostly use your PC for Web browsing, email, office work, and movies.
  • You don’t care about having “the latest and greatest”.

2. Most Warranties Can’t Keep Up
If you’re spending on a top-of-the-line system, then most future-proof builds are expected to last four years or more — but that period is longer than what your warranties will cover, and computer parts will certainly fail.

Motherboards, processors, and graphics cards are the three most expensive parts of the computer. Yet, Intel, AMD, Nvidia, and their major partners only offer warranties up to three years max.

The other major expenditure is the Power Supply Unit (PSU). Depending on the model, you can get a warranty up to seven years, but those are usually only for the top-of-the-line PSUs.

Funnily enough, the things you can upgrade most easily and most affordably are covered for a longer time by warranties. Hard drives and RAM, for instance, are usually covered by three-to-five years of warranty, but these are made obsolete so quickly that they aren’t prime components for future-proofing.

3. Technology Has Mostly Peaked
In some ways, processor technology has peaked. Unless you’re running a server or setting up virtual machines, you don’t really need that extra horsepower any more.

Techspot compared Intel processors over eight years and found that, with a four-year difference, the new processor was only 32% faster in Excel, 25% faster in 7-Zip, and 17% faster on average when comparing gaming performance.

Furthermore, a two year gap between Sandy Bridge and Haswell “shows reasonable gains at times, but for the most part the difference is minimal” and “in gaming tests, virtually nothing separates the two processors.”

Things are similar in the RAM department. The baseline for RAM is 4 GB, and you will see significant improvements with 8 GB RAM — but between 8 GB and 16 GB, you aren’t going to see much improvement in real-world performance. The only exception, again, is when running virtual machines.

According to the current trend, manufacturers are making technology more power-efficient so that laptop batteries can last longer and PCs can draw less power. Concepts like Moore’s Law have run their course.

4. Future-Proofing Doesn’t Always Work

Reddit has an army of tech junkies who know what they’re talking about. In 2013, one Redditor asked future-proofers from over four years ago about their experiences and the responses are telling. Here’s a quick summary of commonly agreed-upon points:

Almost all future-proofers said that new games don’t run as well as they did initially. The experience is still “good enough”, but it’s not at the best settings any more.
  • You should only future-proof if you are willing to overclock and know the subsequent risks of losing warranties. Overclocking makes future-proofing worthwhile.
  • A high-end PSU and computer case will last you a long time, well beyond warranties. Most future-proofers got two or three different builds out of their PSU and case.
  • Graphics cards, especially, are upgraded most often. If you’re a PC gamer, then your graphics card is not going to stay relevant for four years if you want state-of-the-art visuals. Some say it depreciates drastically in two years, so periodic upgrades are better than future-proofing.

Although it’s five years old, our article on what to look for in a graphics card still holds true.

5. Future-Proofing Is Cost-Inefficient

Old hardware is just one of the possible reasons that your computer is running slow. If you are buying a new PC and you deck it out with top-of-the-line specifications, there is no guarantee it won’t slow down in the future.

Like the aforementioned advice about graphics cards, upgrading periodically is better than binging the first time. Instead of buying beyond your needs “just in case”, the wiser option is to get a system that meets your needs right now and save the rest of what you would’ve spent. Invest that money to buy stuff when you can get the best deal for it.

In the Reddit thread, the best advice, in my opinion, came from u/crimson117:

With a $2,000 budget that needs to last 4 years you’d usually be better off in the long term spending $1,000 now and then $250 in upgrades once a year. Careful long-term budgeting (is more) reliable than one big splurge.The only exception is a computer that can’t be upgraded easily, such as a build for a family member who lives too far away.

http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/5-reasons-shouldnt-future-proof-pc/
 

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More importantly when considering future-proofing of rigs, wad is the purpose of that rig? Gaming? Productivity? General usage? 3D Modelling/Animation?

From experience, only gaming rigs cant be future-proofed. The others can, to some extent. And it also partly depends on how itchy ur hands are when it comes to upgrading new parts.
 

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More importantly when considering future-proofing of rigs, wad is the purpose of that rig? Gaming? Productivity? General usage? 3D Modelling/Animation?

From experience, only gaming rigs cant be future-proofed. The others can, to some extent. And it also partly depends on how itchy ur hands are when it comes to upgrading new parts.

Good read on that site bro.
 
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