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elvintay07

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Then I hope they get CASE-ed
Today you approach case, machiam pay admin fees of $10.90 and then need to pay membership fees in tier (think is $15 cheapest). And what these group of clowns offer you is some useless paper tiger approach. You might as well spend the money in SCT.

If today I am government, I would have close this cmi company. Form another solid company with real powerhouse young lawyers. No need to talk simi admin fees or membership. Just take 10% of the compensation. Get $1m compensation charge $100k lo. This kind then will be power mah. Else wayang wayang. Today I am business owner, someone said want to complain to CASE, I think I will laugh at them
 

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Today you approach case, machiam pay admin fees of $10.90 and then need to pay membership fees in tier (think is $15 cheapest). And what these group of clowns offer you is some useless paper tiger approach. You might as well spend the money in SCT.

If today I am government, I would have close this cmi company. Form another solid company with real powerhouse young lawyers. No need to talk simi admin fees or membership. Just take 10% of the compensation. Get $1m compensation charge $100k lo. This kind then will be power mah. Else wayang wayang. Today I am business owner, someone said want to complain to CASE, I think I will laugh at them
Strangely I see Case president Mr Melvin Yong Yik Chye profile sibei satki lei. He has my upmost admiration and respect. But the amount they charge vs SCT, SCT sibei friendly price

SCT charges really like Elvin Tay previously recommended. Based on performance matrix. Super impressive. For $5000 charge $10. Above $20k and below $30k is 1% of total compensation. I think I like chief justice more.

https://www.judiciary.gov.sg/civil/how-to-file-serve-small-claim
 

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MNO​
MVNO​
eSIM support​
eSIM replacement charge​
Source​
Singtel
N.A
Yes​
Yes
How do I purchase an eSIM or switch from a physical SIM to eSIM? How much does it cost?
If your contract has not ended but you want to switch to an eSIM, this is chargeable at $10.90.​
GOMO
Yes​
No​
How many times can I re-install my eSIM?
Good news! There is currently no cap to the number of times you can re-install your GOMO eSIM! You can re-install your eSIM on the same device or transfer it to another device using the same QR code you get when you sign up for GOMO with no additional charges. Remember, your eSIM can only be installed on one device at a time
CMLink
No
N.A
N.A
Vivifi
Yes​
Yes
I am changing my device. How can I transfer my VIVIFI eSIM from the old device to the new device?
Please note that the eSIM can only be active on one device at a time. You are allowed up to 3 free downloads regardless of the device. A SIM replacement fee of $5.50 (inclusive of GST) will apply if you require more than 3 downloads.
Zero1
No
N.A
N.A
ZYM
No
N.A
N.A
Heya
No
N.A
N.A
Starhub
N.A
Yes​
Yes
Is there any fee for eSIM?
There is a one-time fee of $12.96.
There is no limit to the number of times you can re-install your eSIM.​
Giga
Yes​
Yes
3.31 eSIM:
3.32.4 There is no limit to the number of eSIM profiles that can be generated for each giga subscriber line. An eSIM fee of $1.00 applies for each eSIM generation.
MyRepublic (5G - SH)
Yes​
Yes
5. Installation of eSIM (via QR Code) and Applicable Charges
5.3 Each user is given 2 free downloads of the eSIM profile. Charges (as set out in Clause 7 below) will apply for each subsequent download after the 2 free downloads have been utilised.\

5.4 There is a limit of 4 successful installations per eSIM. If a user has maxed out the number of installations allowed for an eSIM, an eSIM replacement will be required and the respective charges set out in Clause 7 shall apply. eSIM profile download charges will also apply where applicable (i.e. for the 3rd and each subsequent download of the eSIM profile for each mobile line).

5.5 For the avoidance of doubt, each installation of an eSIM profile counts as a new installation, and also counts towards the limit of 4 successful installations per eSIM.​
Service
Fee
Remarks
eSIM Registration​
S$32.70
This Charge may, at our discretion, be waived during promotions that we may run from time to time​
eSIM Profile Download​
Free for first 2 downloads on each mobile line; S$3.27 for each subsequent download
-​
eSIM Replacement​
S$10.90
-​
RedOne
No
N.A
N.A
M1
N.A
Yes​
Yes
What are the charges for eSIM?
M1 is currently offering a FREE 5G eSIM upgrade for customers who are on 4G SIM / 4G eSIM (SIM charge worth $38.15) until further notice.
What happens if I want to change my eSIM profile to another device?
You will be able to retain your 5G eSIM number however you will need to remove your eSIM profile from the current device and re-download into the new intended device (a fee of $5.45 applies for the re-download). This change can be done via My M1+ app. Simply retrieve the QR code via App Settings in the new device and re-download the eSIM profile. Be sure to do this while connected to Wi-Fi.​
MAXX
No
N.A
N.A
Circles.Life
Yes​
Yes

How do I transfer my eSIM to my new phone
- Every eSIM can only be added to and removed from any device for a maximum of 10 times.
- Any subsequent transfer will require a new eSIM to be sent to you, which is chargeable one-time in your next bill for $25.00.

MyRepublic (4G - M1)
Yes​
Yes
Refer to MyRepublic 5G - SH
Changi Mobile
No
N.A
N.A
Geenet
No
N.A
N.A
SIMBA
N.A
Yes​
Yes

eSIM replacement (can be done at Service Centres Orchard Central, Kaki Bukit, Paya Lebar Quarter, Canberra Plaza, Clementi or Promenade only)
Upon verification of ID and phone compatibility, you will be issued with an eSIM QR Code. A
$5 fee apply per replacement.
- As of 24 May 2024


looks like zero1, maxx and eight now all support eSIM already
 

Jurong640

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I was ready to ditch physical SIMs forever — then my toddler threw my phone off a balcony

Broken-iPhone-15-Pro-scaled-1280w-720h.jpg.webp


While on holiday, my toddler decided my phone would look cool skydiving from a ninth-floor balcony. Spoiler Alert: It didn’t stick the landing. Not only did the iPhone’s screen shatter to pieces from one corner, but the grade 5 titanium frame literally tore from the antenna band. Not to mention the internal damage to other crucial components.

After mourning the loss and explaining to my child that phones aren’t actually meant to fly, I faced a new problem. I needed a new phone. And fast. Apple told me the phone can’t be fixed and will need to be replaced. Shedding tears of desperation, I swallowed the bitter pill and coughed up to buy the iPhone 16 Pro.

...
But here’s the catch. You can’t just pop into a store, grab a phone, and swap out the SIM anymore when you’re only using an eSIM. Sure, transferring an eSIM is usually as easy as scanning a QR code, but what happens when your old phone’s display is completely dead?

To make matters worse, I wasn’t even home. I was about to travel to an even more remote location just an hour after the whole mess started. So there I was, holding a brand-new iPhone with no carrier connectivity, meaning I couldn’t access 80% of my apps that relied on two-factor authentication tied to my phone number. Payment and banking apps in my country are also married to the user’s phone number, so I was also left without access to digital payment methods. Not the best scenario when you’re on holiday.

I figured my carrier could just activate the eSIM on my new phone remotely. Turns out, I was wrong.
I ended up stuck without a working phone for three whole days until I could get to a carrier store in the nearest big city, where they finally deactivated the eSIM on my old device (RIP) and got me up and running on the new one.
 

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I was ready to ditch physical SIMs forever — then my toddler threw my phone off a balcony

Broken-iPhone-15-Pro-scaled-1280w-720h.jpg.webp


While on holiday, my toddler decided my phone would look cool skydiving from a ninth-floor balcony. Spoiler Alert: It didn’t stick the landing. Not only did the iPhone’s screen shatter to pieces from one corner, but the grade 5 titanium frame literally tore from the antenna band. Not to mention the internal damage to other crucial components.

After mourning the loss and explaining to my child that phones aren’t actually meant to fly, I faced a new problem. I needed a new phone. And fast. Apple told me the phone can’t be fixed and will need to be replaced. Shedding tears of desperation, I swallowed the bitter pill and coughed up to buy the iPhone 16 Pro.

...
But here’s the catch. You can’t just pop into a store, grab a phone, and swap out the SIM anymore when you’re only using an eSIM. Sure, transferring an eSIM is usually as easy as scanning a QR code, but what happens when your old phone’s display is completely dead?

To make matters worse, I wasn’t even home. I was about to travel to an even more remote location just an hour after the whole mess started. So there I was, holding a brand-new iPhone with no carrier connectivity, meaning I couldn’t access 80% of my apps that relied on two-factor authentication tied to my phone number. Payment and banking apps in my country are also married to the user’s phone number, so I was also left without access to digital payment methods. Not the best scenario when you’re on holiday.

I figured my carrier could just activate the eSIM on my new phone remotely. Turns out, I was wrong.
I ended up stuck without a working phone for three whole days until I could get to a carrier store in the nearest big city, where they finally deactivated the eSIM on my old device (RIP) and got me up and running on the new one.
The pros of eSIM convenience got defeated due to telcos and security concerns e.g. SIMJacking, so in the end eSIM ends up especially worst when facing such situations.
Oh well....
 

crystalnox

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The pros of eSIM convenience got defeated due to telcos and security concerns e.g. SIMJacking, so in the end eSIM ends up especially worst when facing such situations.
Oh well....
It is still useful in case of theft, the thief can't remove the sim card or enable airplane mode if they don't have your pin code. The moment the phone is switched back on, it will connect to the network. (assuming you've disabled control panel from locked screen)

SIMJacking also assumes your number is known, not true of someone just taking your phone from your unattended bag. A physical SIM can still be taken out and placed into another phone to discover its number.

I was ready to ditch physical SIMs forever — then my toddler threw my phone off a balcony

Broken-iPhone-15-Pro-scaled-1280w-720h.jpg.webp


While on holiday, my toddler decided my phone would look cool skydiving from a ninth-floor balcony. Spoiler Alert: It didn’t stick the landing. Not only did the iPhone’s screen shatter to pieces from one corner, but the grade 5 titanium frame literally tore from the antenna band. Not to mention the internal damage to other crucial components.

After mourning the loss and explaining to my child that phones aren’t actually meant to fly, I faced a new problem. I needed a new phone. And fast. Apple told me the phone can’t be fixed and will need to be replaced. Shedding tears of desperation, I swallowed the bitter pill and coughed up to buy the iPhone 16 Pro.

...
But here’s the catch. You can’t just pop into a store, grab a phone, and swap out the SIM anymore when you’re only using an eSIM. Sure, transferring an eSIM is usually as easy as scanning a QR code, but what happens when your old phone’s display is completely dead?

To make matters worse, I wasn’t even home. I was about to travel to an even more remote location just an hour after the whole mess started. So there I was, holding a brand-new iPhone with no carrier connectivity, meaning I couldn’t access 80% of my apps that relied on two-factor authentication tied to my phone number. Payment and banking apps in my country are also married to the user’s phone number, so I was also left without access to digital payment methods. Not the best scenario when you’re on holiday.

I figured my carrier could just activate the eSIM on my new phone remotely. Turns out, I was wrong.
I ended up stuck without a working phone for three whole days until I could get to a carrier store in the nearest big city, where they finally deactivated the eSIM on my old device (RIP) and got me up and running on the new one.
This is not so relevant in tiny SG depending on your telco. I can just leave my house and walk 5-10 mins to the nearest SIMBA service centre and get a replacement eSIM.
 

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This is not so relevant in tiny SG depending on your telco. I can just leave my house and walk 5-10 mins to the nearest SIMBA service centre and get a replacement eSIM.
If you are within support area this is not much of a concern.
It is most applicable when you are far from it, esp when overseas, and more so for extended period.
Also, even within SG, most people don't have a service centre for every telco within 5-10 minutes walk.
 

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esim is best for roaming use only for now, imo.
Unless one frequently require eSIM switches, otherwise roaming or not, doesn't seem to be an issue.
But yes, since roaming usually is for use and throw, as compared to local usage which are permanent.
 

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It is still useful in case of theft, the thief can't remove the sim card or enable airplane mode if they don't have your pin code. The moment the phone is switched back on, it will connect to the network. (assuming you've disabled control panel from locked screen)

SIMJacking also assumes your number is known, not true of someone just taking your phone from your unattended bag. A physical SIM can still be taken out and placed into another phone to discover its number.


This is not so relevant in tiny SG depending on your telco. I can just leave my house and walk 5-10 mins to the nearest SIMBA service centre and get a replacement eSIM.
Yes, agreed with this.
But in convenience context, say phone switching, eSIM currently unable to port freely by oneself.

And since you brought it up, I believe IOS users should disable control centre access from lock screen.
Personally use this to enhance safety since this feature should only be accessible once unlocked to prevent airplane mode toggle if in situations where device is lost/stolen.
 
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