Extend ORD date

[reddevil0728]

WHO ARE YOU,WHY MUST PROTECT U?
DONT BE A SNOOB.

Because u can't selectively defend certain ppl in a country

 

[Adamthng]

Natural instinct or not, if you end up saying the wrong thing at the wrong thing, you will still end up screwing yourself or in this case your son.

Since his commander claims he will look into it, then you should just let him do so first rather than tell the entire internet about it. What does that achieve?

To let others NS man be aware and not to be submisive,dont suffer in silence.There are a lot of these powerful office bearer abusing their power.Thanks to social media we can air our grievances.
It also lessen my agony after airing it out and unexpectedly received lots of ideas and option to pursue the matters.Along the way there are arrow shooting at me,and also good advise given it is a most fulfilling experience.This is the first time I am using the forum to air the grievance

 

[Adamthng]

U can react in whatever way you want. But there's a difference between doing it privately and publicly.

Now I can feel the differences.For the past few day before I post this we suffer in silence privately.Last night I post it on the forum publicly,I am able to sleep peacefully.I can feel the differences already my mood is much better.Try it if you dont believe me,itis better than seeing a psychiatric,it had this healing effect on me.I am not exaggerating it is the truth.
Try it then you will believe in it.Thank you HWZ forum

 

[reddevil0728]

To let others NS man be aware and not to be submisive,dont suffer in silence.There are a lot of these powerful office bearer abusing their power.Thanks to social media we can air our grievances.
It also lessen my agony after airing it out and unexpectedly received lots of ideas and option to pursue the matters.Along the way there are arrow shooting at me,and also good advise given it is a most fulfilling experience.This is the first time I am using the forum to air the grievance

Nobody say you can't air your grievances. What people are telling you to is to watch what you say.

Do you know what does defamation, slander or libel mean?

If you don't go check the dictionary.

Now I can feel the differences.For the past few day before I post this we suffer in silence privately.Last night I post it on the forum publicly,I am able to sleep peacefully.I can feel the differences already my mood is much better.Try it if you dont believe me,itis better than seeing a psychiatric,it had this healing effect on me.I make not exaggerating it is the truth.
Try it then you will believe in it.Thank you HWZ forum

Gawd, I think you missed the point totally.

Do you know what does defamation, slander or libel mean?

Check the dictionary.

 

[Adamthng]

Nobody say you can't air your grievances. What people are telling you to is to watch what you say.

Do you know what does defamation, slander or libel mean?

If you don't go check the dictionary.
Gawd, I think you missed the point totally.

Do you know what does defamation, slander or libel mean?

Check the dictionary.

If they think that my post constitute defamation, slander or libel,so be it.
I am just sharing my story with all.
I am an old man well train by our system to be a conformist,typical asian,suffer in silence,bear with it ,dont wash dirty linen in the public,fear of losing face,.all this is inherited from our grandparent and past down to us and was use by the emperor in china using the feudal system to subdue the subjects.Slowly I can detect the changes happening in the younger generation like my son,more westernize in thinking,more liberal,more vocal,less conformists,multi media savy.

 

[reddevil0728]

If they think that my post constitute defamation, slander or libel,so be it.
I am just sharing my story with all.
I am an old man well train by our system to be a conformist,typical asian,suffer in silence,bear with it ,dont wash dirty linen in the public,fear of losing face,.all this is inherited from our grandparent and past down to us and was use by the emperor in china using the feudal system to subdue the subjects.Slowly I can detect the changes happening in the younger generation like my son,more westernize in thinking,more liberal,more vocal,less conformists,multi media savy.

Eh please. Nobody is suggesting you should keep quiet or what not. People is telling you to take note of what you say which may sound defamatory.

Even if you go to liberal countries like US or UK, which strongly upholds the freedom of speech, you also should not anyhow make unjustified claims. Furthermore you are obviously not in the 2 countries.

 

[metastate]

If they think that my post constitute defamation, slander or libel,so be it.
I am just sharing my story with all.
I am an old man well train by our system to be a conformist,typical asian,suffer in silence,bear with it ,dont wash dirty linen in the public,fear of losing face,.all this is inherited from our grandparent and past down to us and was use by the emperor in china using the feudal system to subdue the subjects.Slowly I can detect the changes happening in the younger generation like my son,more westernize in thinking,more liberal,more vocal,less conformists,multi media savy.

I applaud your ability to draw links for everywhere but I can't see the link.
How has this episode made us know that your son is more westernize in thinking, more liberal, more vocal, less conformist (please omit the s) and multi media savvy? When he who is concern, cannot step forward to defend himself using an email?

Of what help will we be able to give you when we felt you have purposely withheld some information? (i still felt you did with your editing of posts on dates to make your song sing)

To let others NS man be aware and not to be submisive,dont suffer in silence.There are a lot of these powerful office bearer abusing their power.

Who is your son? Why is he so special that they must spend money to keep him in the force? Why must they purposely target your son?

All of us here been through NS, and though we may each have our own unhappiness with the system in someway or another, all of us would have agree that SAF is a professional organisation and did things with caution.

TS, I have been nice to you from the beginning. Please stop being skeptical of the world around us. Seek the proper place to address your grievances. What have you gotten at the end of this post?
We would still ask you to email the CMPB and settle because that's what you are supposed to do in the first place! Are you going to seek help from an MP, who will also ultimately ask you to email CMPB?

We are really interested to hear what CMPB will say. I believe, you should too.

 

[reddevil0728]

I applaud your ability to draw links for everywhere but I can't see the link.
How has this episode made us know that your son is more westernize in thinking, more liberal, more vocal, less conformist (please omit the s) and multi media savvy? When he who is concern, cannot step forward to defend himself using an email?

Of what help will we be able to give you when we felt you have purposely withheld some information? (i still felt you did with your editing of posts on dates to make your song sing)



Who is your son? Why is he so special that they must spend money to keep him in the force? Why must they purposely target your son?

All of us here been through NS, and though we may each have our own unhappiness with the system in someway or another, all of us would have agree that SAF is a professional organisation and did things with caution.

TS, I have been nice to you from the beginning. Please stop being skeptical of the world around us. Seek the proper place to address your grievances. What have you gotten at the end of this post?
We would still ask you to email the CMPB and settle because that's what you are supposed to do in the first place! Are you going to seek help from an MP, who will also ultimately ask you to email CMPB?

We are really interested to hear what CMPB will say. I believe, you should too.

Typical criticise for the sake of criticising case.

 

[Adamthng]

Typical criticise for the sake of criticising case.

We are dealing with a very powerful figure.I did not said my son is special.
I am willing to stand out to testify if some authority higher than CMPB is willing to contact me for enquiry for the sake of transpancy.Now is wait and see,take one step at a time.

 

[Adamthng]

I applaud your ability to draw links for everywhere but I can't see the link.
How has this episode made us know that your son is more westernize in thinking, more liberal, more vocal, less conformist (please omit the s) and multi media savvy? When he who is concern, cannot step forward to defend himself using an email?

Of what help will we be able to give you when we felt you have purposely withheld some information? (i still felt you did with your editing of posts on dates to make your song sing)



Who is your son? Why is he so special that they must spend money to keep him in the force? Why must they purposely target your son?

All of us here been through NS, and though we may each have our own unhappiness with the system in someway or another, all of us would have agree that SAF is a professional organisation and did things with caution.

TS, I have been nice to you from the beginning. Please stop being skeptical of the world around us. Seek the proper place to address your grievances. What have you gotten at the end of this post?
We would still ask you to email the CMPB and settle because that's what you are supposed to do in the first place! Are you going to seek help from an MP, who will also ultimately ask you to email CMPB?

We are really interested to hear what CMPB will say. I believe, you should too.

I am also very interested to hear what CMPB will say provided it is chair by a higher authority.Now waiting ,his unit is handling the case.

 

[Adamthng]

my constant editing is due to my poor typiing or error ,i am not so i.t savy.
I dont had the intention to mislead you,dont be skeptical.My account is easily traceable
dont you think I can get away with it.

 

[reddevil0728]

We are dealing with a very powerful figure.I did not said my son is special.
I am willing to stand out to testify if some authority higher than CMPB is willing to contact me for enquiry for the sake of transpancy.Now is wait and see,take one step at a time.

I think you are a joke. If you present your facts nicely here, instead of accusing this accusing that without even thinking about what you say, people may sympathise with you.

But instead of doing that, you just fire away and continue to make accusations without providing evidence to support it. How you expect people here to believe what you say is credible or not?

You may feel victimised, but criticising for the sake of criticising without providing any evidence to substantiate your claim is just making people thinking you are a troll.

You may think Big Brother is stupid and purposely want to target someone for political reasons. But they may not be that stupid to target someone for the sake of targeting. In the past without internet maybe they can get by doing that, but the fact that anyone like you and me can just post on the internet about this already should send an alarm bell to big brother not to try anything funny. U look at the AIM case, you think they can just sweep under the carpet?

Why is your son so special that they want to target? Why don't you tell me?

If not wrong almost 900k males already served NS, why they so happy want to target your son?

my constant editing is due to my poor typiing or error ,i am not so i.t savy.
I dont had the intention to mislead you,dont be skeptical.My account is easily traceable
dont you think I can get away with it.

U don't think before you shoot and when people tell u don't anyhow shoot you continue to do so.

 

[Adamthng]

I think you are a joke. If you present your facts nicely here, instead of accusing this accusing that without even thinking about what you say, people may sympathise with you.

But instead of doing that, you just fire away and continue to make accusations without providing evidence to support it. How you expect people here to believe what you say is credible or not?

You may feel victimised, but criticising for the sake of criticising without providing any evidence to substantiate your claim is just making people thinking you are a troll.

You may think Big Brother is stupid and purposely want to target someone for political reasons. But they may not be that stupid to target someone for the sake of targeting. In the past without internet maybe they can get by doing that, but the fact that anyone like you and me can just post on the internet about this already should send an alarm bell to big brother not to try anything funny. U look at the AIM case, you think they can just sweep under the carpet?

Why is your son so special that they want to target? Why don't you tell me?

If not wrong almost 900k males already served NS, why they so happy want to target your son?
U don't think before you shoot and when people tell u don't anyhow shoot you continue to do so.

I was hoping some big shot contact me to investigate .
Anyway his unit is handling it,soon will know the result.
If unable to settle by the unit, might bring up with higher authority,or media if they are interested.We are mentally prepared to lose but be open that is all we ask,better still if reported by the media for all interested people to judge.He is targetted not for political reason definitely.

 

[Adamthng]

I think you saw the claasified form which I deleted when someone caution me.That is form my son signed with the ORD date clearly stated.That is the evidence which you choose to ignore.

 

[reddevil0728]

I was hoping some big shot contact me to investigate .
Anyway his unit is handling it,soon will know the result.
If unable to settle by the unit, might bring up with higher authority,or media if they are interested.We are mentally prepared to lose but be open that is all we ask,better still if reported by the media for all interested people to judge.He is targetted not for political reason definitely.

It's either you refuse to read or just don't understand. Nobody say you can't bring it up via any means. But if you want to bring it up via all means, at least collaborate your story.

If you want people to judge with whatever you have provided now, if it's mean, I will have massive doubts on your credibility. That's just me. Maybe other people will think otherwise. Then tell me why they want to target your son? Why don't you say it rather than say it's definitely not for political reasons.

You must be hiding something right?

I think you saw the claasified form which I deleted when someone caution me.That is form my son signed with the ORD date clearly stated.That is the evidence which you choose to ignore.

That form doesn't say why they are targeting your son and that form doesn't explain why they extend your son's ORD.

 

[metastate]

If you want people to judge with whatever you have provided now, if it's mean, I will have massive doubts on your credibility. That's just me. Maybe other people will think otherwise.

It's not just you. Me too.

TS: I am not being skeptical. I am being critical. Your editing is really fishy.

Then tell me why they want to target your son? Why don't you say it rather than say it's definitely not for political reasons.

You must be hiding something right?

Everyone is interested to know as well.

 

[derrickgoh]

Sounds more & more like X-files. Lol!

Seriously, who can b bothered to frame his son?

 

[BlitzStryker]

Wah didnt come to this thread for so long and got saga alr. Anyone can explain? Haha. Chill to all. Cheers!

 

[derrickgoh]

For the SAF to be conspiring and covering up on so many levels, it must be because of some super duper sensitive issue. I seriously doubt SAF gives a sh*t about one quitter who fails his course and decides to break contract. SAF probably doesn't want to even bother wasting time on such a quitter, let alone cook up some conspiracy against him.

Looks like someone has been watching too many conspiracy theory movies.

Even last time with the Commando dunking incident during POW training, SAF didn't even bother to cover it up. So what so special about TS's precious son that SAF must now invent some story to embroil him in a conspiracy?

Dude, you think too highly of your son and to a certain degree of yourself. In your own words, you thought that by posting here, some big shot will step in to investigate. Seriously? Whatever you are smoking, its time to quit.

Big shots don't have time to surf HWZ and they sure as hell don't have time to bother about a quitter who is disputing his end of service date.

Which brings us back to the original point. What are you trying to achieve here? Trying to discredit the SAF because maybe you are a retired regular with a grudge? Trying to smear the reputation of the commander because maybe you have an issue with him? Or maybe you are opposition supporter trying to smear the reputation of the MP by implying he's not doing his job?

Any logical parent will know to follow chain of command. So next time when your son works in private sector and has problems with his supervisor, are you also going to bypass the HR Manager and the GM and post on HWZ too?

The info you have provided is all over the place and does not tally. The way you are behaving and the things you have said also don't help your son's cause ASSUMING that is the real reason. To most of us, it would sound like you have a hidden agenda and this thing about your son is total bullsh*t.

Oh and if you are really as old and as experienced as you claim, surely you should know that sometimes its best not to talk too much while a case is still under review or you could end up screwing things up.

 

[reddevil0728]

It's not just you. Me too.

TS: I am not being skeptical. I am being critical. Your editing is really fishy.




Everyone is interested to know as well.

He doesn't seemed to get my intention, from day 1 I already tried to warn TS about the possibility of arriving at this situation where by people doubt his credibility, but he just continue to blabber on without thinking. See now starting to get owned liao la.

Sounds more & more like X-files. Lol!

Seriously, who can b bothered to frame his son?

maybe TS' alter ego