Few qn abt Iswaran case

[Joseph12]

Thus these gifts to iwr are linked to the project they’re ongoing together

There's no link to a corruption charge
But clearly Iswazy is beholden to Ong

 

[maikichai]

ginna can give teacher stuff on teacher day?

Cannot, teacher end up paying for the item, that's why encourage only to give greeting cards for well-wishes only.

 

[Joseph12]

Hmmm then teachers day how ah? All the students give stuff to the teachers. Hohoho

Teacher if have integrity should say I support this charity like WP and PSP fund.
Please donate to them instead of giving me gifts

Or you can donate to a charity of your choosing

 

[maikichai]

i read the bicycle was his birthday gift, in this case, how come it's consideration?

you mean public servant cannot receive birthday gift anymore?

cannot, if there are linked to same project/or conflict of interest Because corruption always use his guise to bypass the law, the law not stoopid u know, this is how it always starts. Birthday lah, xmas lah. mooncake lah

 

[MaskedRider555]

teacher post so low...take gift also never mind

 

[maikichai]

If my farmer friend give me eggs, how?

if u are minister of agriculture than u are in trouble.

 

[Joseph12]

if u are minister of agriculture than u are in trouble.

That's why Singapore is shite
In US etc the media and tabloids will investigate

Who is "farmer"
How he knows Amy?
If he's real farmer, definitely he's regulated by government
Can you connect this to Amy?

Or even worse, did he know her cos she's MP?
And oh.... maybe her ward buys his produce or he got contract with them. Ho ho ho

 

[archie7]

I don't understand the mentality of people here

If it's gift from family , of course need not declare

If it's gift from Ong and you're handling F1, of course tell your HR or whoever is in charge whether must declare

Make sure EVERYONE in building knows and they apply policy and you don't interfere
So obvious.

If they say cannot accept then reject it

https://www.psd.gov.sg/declaration-...y-civil-servants-and-political-officeholders/

1. Civil servants and political officeholders must not ask for gifts or favours, especially when they are in a position to influence or affect any decision involving the other party. If it is not possible or it is impractical to decline gifts or meals, officers should declare and account for it according to established processes.

2. For gifts that are less than $50, the officer may be allowed to retain the gift without payment after taking into account considerations such as conflict of interest. For gifts that are $50 or more, an officer may be allowed to retain the gift if he pays its value to the government.

 

[acit]

If my farmer friend give me eggs, how?

Already mentioned the guidelines when accepting gifts...go read up dont be troll

 

[maikichai]

That's why Singapore is shite
In US etc they'll investigate

Who is "farmer"
How he knows Amy?
If he's real farmer, definitely he's regulated by government
Can you connect this to Amy?

Or even worse, did he know her cos she's MP?
And oh.... maybe her ward buys his produce or he got contract with them. Ho ho ho

if u report police, they have to investigate. report CPIB also got hotline, your id is protected. Gar gar go report.

 

[kan-kon]

my kids gimme presents, isit sho their allowances increased??

is dis gratification??

 

[hammerhammer]

Accept gift cannot but ask for discount can. Like someone bought some atas condo at discount from developer bo taichi. If I am Iswaran I just PayNow a token sum to OBS then maybe no need to end up like this. If want to charge me then I ask why people buy condo can discount but I buy F1 tickets cannot? And the condo discount is huge amount.

 

[Peanut15]

the work done at the ministry also not him.

Minister --> dont do the work? at most ask qn
CEO --> DCEO --> Director --> DD --> Normal staff who is doing the work.

So actually no clash of interest? Shortlist companies for projects also not by iswaran. Maybe OBS thought iswaran helped him, which he doesnt.

 

[soyabeany]

Conflict of interest

 

[AngelRomeo]

If a teacher receive gift from personal friends, must declare?

I think iswarans case is where the gifts received must have helped the two givers to some extent(with f1 related), thus it’s illegal ?

Below $50 no need. Above $50 need to delcare for Civil Servants.
Government jobs this must delcare that must declare one
Even if you have investments also must declare, then also cannot have credit card debts more 3x of your monthly gross salary, if not have to declare
failure to declare will face disciplinary action when caught.

This is the down side of civil servant. this cannot that cannot, but iron rice bowl

Private sectors can do anything you want no need declare

 

[batman_888]

I don't think it's rocket science.

At the end of the day Isw should have known better. He's holding one of the top positions in the land.

If in doubt just say no. Or else declare it.

Sometimes not that he don't know. if you do business, you simply can't refuse ppl give u as to show face. you reject, then next time he won't favour u deal. big businessman what is a treat to u, what is tickets to them.... at the end, they want you show face to them.

the same like you go drinking. ppl ask u drink, u drink right? show face mah

at least he dun take money

 

[batman_888]

That's why Singapore is shite
In US etc the media and tabloids will investigate

Who is "farmer"
How he knows Amy?
If he's real farmer, definitely he's regulated by government
Can you connect this to Amy?

Or even worse, did he know her cos she's MP?
And oh.... maybe her ward buys his produce or he got contract with them. Ho ho ho

then someone need to raise this in parliament

 

[drkcynic]

Sometimes not that he don't know. if you do business, you simply can't refuse ppl give u as to show face. you reject, then next time he won't favour u deal. big businessman what is a treat to u, what is tickets to them.... at the end, they want you show face to them.

the same like you go drinking. ppl ask u drink, u drink right? show face mah

at least he dun take money

Disagree. There are very clear boundaries he shouldn't cross. He is a public servant who is paid with tax payers money. He is not running his own business like Elon Mask. BTW, even businessmen are pulled up by CPIB, like billionaire Ong.

No excuses.

 

[FireEmblem]

You dun use a kumgong example.

Personal friend also can be no business dealing and with business dealing

 

[zoossh]

Alamak pple here said so many times b4 liao, gifts under $50 don't need to declare for civil servants.

Sg so ex. $50 is not a reasonable amount leh