First timer needs help building a gaming rig..

[Jian19]

Won't recommend OC...for 1.8k can easily get a 290 or gtx780 build instead

 

[shadow84]

To get such a gd cpu n mobo along with a lousy gpu for gaming is quite dumb.... just drop to b85 la, den can get better gpu. Or get msi z87 g45 and 280x once u up budget.

That monitor is ex. For $219, s2340l is a ntter choice with similar specs. Try find WHOLE of sls for it. Dun believe whole sls dun hav de.

There is no such need to xfire for a 60hz 1080p monitor. U will only get tearing once it hits over 75+ fps or so. Jus get 280x And 600-650w psu will do.

 

[shadow84]

And he says ur inbox full, he cant reply...

 

[royfrosty]

Is not i bo hiu. Is your pm full. Type so much in the end inbox full @.@

 

[royfrosty]

And yes. I personally replied you that you should reconsider a b85 mobo instead. If you are not gonna oc the chip now and only do it in the future.

Also gaming nowadays do not need you to oc your cpu. Ot wont bring you any form of extra boost.

Spend more on a gpu instead. Your initial choice was fine. 280x. 270x wont last you if you really wanna enjoy good graphics.

 

[ProWelfare]

aft 2-3 months then oc. need season those chips first..

Is there a preferred date to OC? I can OC 2 months later or 1 year later also no problem? Thank you for your reply!

Won't recommend OC...for 1.8k can easily get a 290 or gtx780 build instead

I really want to try overclocking once in my life. Somemore the price between 4670k and 4670 is a little bit difference nia.

To get such a gd cpu n mobo along with a lousy gpu for gaming is quite dumb.... just drop to b85 la, den can get better gpu. Or get msi z87 g45 and 280x once u up budget.

That monitor is ex. For $219, s2340l is a ntter choice with similar specs. Try find WHOLE of sls for it. Dun believe whole sls dun hav de.

There is no such need to xfire for a 60hz 1080p monitor. U will only get tearing once it hits over 75+ fps or so. Jus get 280x And 600-650w psu will do.

I know its dumb because my sole purpose is gaming. But I thought spend more money on CPU + mobo now will save me money from changing CPU + mobo in the future. So I dont mind increasing a few more hundreds to get a better CPU.

If I want to OC in the future, 600-650w will be enough?

Okay. I will go and find the 2340I model. But is there a difference between 23" and 24"? The price difference so much.

Hmm. Seems like I have to read more about crossfire and sli already. I thought if mobo support then just get any two similar cards will do the trick.

And yes. I personally replied you that you should reconsider a b85 mobo instead. If you are not gonna oc the chip now and only do it in the future.

Also gaming nowadays do not need you to oc your cpu. Ot wont bring you any form of extra boost.

Spend more on a gpu instead. Your initial choice was fine. 280x. 270x wont last you if you really wanna enjoy good graphics.

Sorry Roy!! Didnt notice my inbox full. I thought you angry because I keep changing.

I read that alot of people suggest that only z87 can do OC on 4670K. If I get b85 now, then I will have to spend money again on z87 should I feel like overclocking. Is it true?

270x and 280x have a difference of about sgd$200. Maybe I should just settle with a budget of 2k and get 4670k + r9 280x? At least I wont be spending money on my rig for the next 2 years I think.


EDIT: I just saw the price of b85 compared to z87.. The price is about 200sgd difference. Wa. Okay. I think most probably I will change asus-pro with asrock fataility killer b85. This b85 can overclock the K series as well.

 

[and_who]

If you have no budget, pump the money in a gpu. Games are generally not CPU intensive- heck a CPU from 3 years ago (2600k) is still running neck to neck with the current gen CPU. http://www.ocaholic.ch/modules/smartsection/item.php?itemid=1164

In contrast spending money on a r9 290 instead of 280x will increase your frame rates more

Ever see a 580 or 6970 run neck to neck with a r9 290 or gtx 780? Never.

Spend a lot on CPU , is really no point.

 

[El Metronome]

just to add on from my trip to SLS/tradepac last Sunday:

gigabyte r9 280x seems to have restocks but price has increased by $50 to $509. tradepac does not seem to have stocks yet but if they increase by $50 like every other shop in SLS that's gonna be like $489?

FSP and Superflower PSU oos for months alr, tradepac boss say distro also dunno when have new shipment. might go for seasonic s12g 550w instead, since I guess I rather the costs savings over modularity.

MSI r9 280x in stock elsewhere in SLS, tradepac still no stock and it seems their price list puts it at 485 with bf4. (these amd cards price increases!!!) they also seem quite reluctant to give me discount off their price lists even though I'm getting almost a full system from them.

 

[applebig]

just to add on from my trip to SLS/tradepac last Sunday:

gigabyte r9 280x seems to have restocks but price has increased by $50 to $509. tradepac does not seem to have stocks yet but if they increase by $50 like every other shop in SLS that's gonna be like $489?

FSP and Superflower PSU oos for months alr, tradepac boss say distro also dunno when have new shipment. might go for seasonic s12g 550w instead, since I guess I rather the costs savings over modularity.

MSI r9 280x in stock elsewhere in SLS, tradepac still no stock and it seems their price list puts it at 485 with bf4. (these amd cards price increases!!!) they also seem quite reluctant to give me discount off their price lists even though I'm getting almost a full system from them.

huh serious? i wanted a gigabyte one but no stock also. got a sapphire in the end. just went there like 2 days ago. but i did receive about $70 discount, i think u just need to like walk away from the shop after u confirmed the items u want and more or less he will pull u back and say do a recalculation for u.

at least tts what happened to me.

 

[ProWelfare]

If you have no budget, pump the money in a gpu. Games are generally not CPU intensive- heck a CPU from 3 years ago (2600k) is still running neck to neck with the current gen CPU. Intel Core i7-4770K vs 3770K vs 2600K Gaming-Performance - CPUs - Reviews : ocaholic

In contrast spending money on a r9 290 instead of 280x will increase your frame rates more

Ever see a 580 or 6970 run neck to neck with a r9 290 or gtx 780? Never.

Spend a lot on CPU , is really no point.

Originally, My budget was 1.5k. But after researching more and more and getting advises, I just feel that by increasing my budget abit, I could get a better rig. Thats why lo.

r9 290 too expensive I think. I think r9 280 is better for me because I dont want to go over 2k.

 

[ProWelfare]

just to add on from my trip to SLS/tradepac last Sunday:

gigabyte r9 280x seems to have restocks but price has increased by $50 to $509. tradepac does not seem to have stocks yet but if they increase by $50 like every other shop in SLS that's gonna be like $489?

FSP and Superflower PSU oos for months alr, tradepac boss say distro also dunno when have new shipment. might go for seasonic s12g 550w instead, since I guess I rather the costs savings over modularity.

MSI r9 280x in stock elsewhere in SLS, tradepac still no stock and it seems their price list puts it at 485 with bf4. (these amd cards price increases!!!) they also seem quite reluctant to give me discount off their price lists even though I'm getting almost a full system from them.

Ya. I went last saturday, all the r9 280x that I wanted also out of stock. Not only tradepac but cybermind as well. I hate it when I research about the parts, go down to the shop and they have no stocks. Then they try to offer another brand or type.

I always told them I have to research first.

 

[Jian19]

OC u need a decent cooler too, the problem is haswell is a little too hot in OCing

No problem with ppl that wan to try OCing , but it's not worth it if u only use for gaming and normal usage

 

[shadow84]

Oc with asrock b85 killer wun give u same results as oc on z87. Summore u need a decent cooler like h100i or d14, which cost $100+ more.

Single gpu + oc cpu, 600-650w psu is enough.

Dual gpu + oc cpu, ard 850w is ideal.

Summore, b85 have a limitation of 8x 4x bandwidth for xfire. Most z87 hav 8x 8x at least.

 

[and_who]

Originally, My budget was 1.5k. But after researching more and more and getting advises, I just feel that by increasing my budget abit, I could get a better rig. Thats why lo.

r9 290 too expensive I think. I think r9 280 is better for me because I dont want to go over 2k.

Dude, point is take the budget you have for a k series CPU and board and pump into your r9 290

Heck if you want oc chips and boards, you can get 2nd hand in the forums for probably the same price as a new non k series chip

 

[and_who]

Note that if you are concerned with future proofing, a r9 280x is a rebranded 7970 boost edition, which is based on a 2 year old chip. At least a r9 290 is like only a few months old.

 

[royfrosty]

Revised for you. And fyi tech dynamic is trying to resupply their hx500 hx600. And the newer model is leadex gold. Leadex gold is fully modular.

And since they claim that giga is selling at $50 more. Then its only worth to go for 290 instead. Get from msi. Price may be high. But is worth it with bf4. You can even sell it if you do not need it.

Msi b85 g43 gaming + i5-4570 ~ $384
Gskills ripjaws 1600mhz 2x4gb kit red ~ $113
WD blue 1tb ~ $75
Crucial m500 240gb ~ $155 (amazon)
Msi r9 290 4gb twin frozr gaming ~ $688 (with bf4)
Seasonic g650 650w 80+ gold modular psu ~ $135
Sharkoon bd28 red ~ $77
Samsung ODD ~ 21
Windows 7 home premium 64bit oem ~ $115
Dell s2340L 23inch eIPS panel ~ $219 (go third floor those selling printers and monitors easily give you $30cash rebate)


Total ~ $1982. Buy at tradepac diy.

 

[and_who]

Very nice balanced rig. If ts is so inclined he can take the 382 for CPU and mobo and see if he can get k series CPU and z87 mb to go along with it. Or go ivy bridge.

 

[ProWelfare]

OC u need a decent cooler too, the problem is haswell is a little too hot in OCing

No problem with ppl that wan to try OCing , but it's not worth it if u only use for gaming and normal usage

Oc with asrock b85 killer wun give u same results as oc on z87. Summore u need a decent cooler like h100i or d14, which cost $100+ more.

Single gpu + oc cpu, 600-650w psu is enough.

Dual gpu + oc cpu, ard 850w is ideal.

Summore, b85 have a limitation of 8x 4x bandwidth for xfire. Most z87 hav 8x 8x at least.

Dude, point is take the budget you have for a k series CPU and board and pump into your r9 290

Heck if you want oc chips and boards, you can get 2nd hand in the forums for probably the same price as a new non k series chip

Note that if you are concerned with future proofing, a r9 280x is a rebranded 7970 boost edition, which is based on a 2 year old chip. At least a r9 290 is like only a few months old.

Thanks all for the replies!

Processor i5 4670K
Mobo Asrock B85 Killer ~$407
RAM G.Skill Ripjaw (1600 - 4gb*2) ~$110
GPU Sapphire R9 290 Tri-X 4gb ~$590
PSU Seasonic G series (650W) ~$149
Harddisk WD Blue 1 TB ~$74
Casing Cosair Graphite Series T230 / ~$119
OD Asus 24x DVD SATA ~$24
OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit OEM ~$115
Monitor Dell s2340l ~$ 219
~$1807

What about the above rig? Decided to get sapphire R9 290 since its the better cooler and quiet R9 290 out there. 290x is too expensive. Compared to a 280x sapphire, the difference in price is about $80?

So get a 290 is better than 280x right?

I already ordered SSD from amzaon at 148.5SGD.

So the total of this rig will come out to about $1950. I haven even buy a keyboard yet.

 

[ProWelfare]

Revised for you. And fyi tech dynamic is trying to resupply their hx500 hx600. And the newer model is leadex gold. Leadex gold is fully modular.

And since they claim that giga is selling at $50 more. Then its only worth to go for 290 instead. Get from msi. Price may be high. But is worth it with bf4. You can even sell it if you do not need it.

Msi b85 g43 gaming + i5-4570 ~ $384
Gskills ripjaws 1600mhz 2x4gb kit red ~ $113
WD blue 1tb ~ $75
Crucial m500 240gb ~ $155 (amazon)
Msi r9 290 4gb twin frozr gaming ~ $688 (with bf4)
Seasonic g650 650w 80+ gold modular psu ~ $135
Sharkoon bd28 red ~ $77
Samsung ODD ~ 21
Windows 7 home premium 64bit oem ~ $115
Dell s2340L 23inch eIPS panel ~ $219 (go third floor those selling printers and monitors easily give you $30cash rebate)


Total ~ $1982. Buy at tradepac diy.

I saw your post after I post.

Just to clarify.. Sapphire r9 290 tri-x only $615 with BF4. MSI compared to sapphire will be better? I read online the sapphire offer better noise and temperature and is on par with asus r9 290 in terms of temp and noise. What do you advise?

Then the mobo, why is it g43 gaming and not asrock killer? sorry for so many questions.


I might go down today to get it. Thats why need to iron out some doubts. haha

 

[shadow84]

Once u OC ur cpu, it will burn up to 90+c degrees, as u dun hav a good cooler for it. Need at least $100.

And to get a k cpu with b85 mobo, u can only oc by a bit, mayb ard 4.0 or so. Whereas ppl can oc much higher with z87 fully unlocked.